What Do Converts Have To Do To Get Accepted?

This post by Toby Katz mirrors my experience: "In all the articles and comments about whether Ba’alei Teshuva are fully accepted in Frum from Birth communities, one major factor I haven’t seen mentioned is the character of the individual BT. This applies also to gerim (converts). I know a convert who is a sweet, outgoing, pleasant, talented, easy-going person, and she finds the charedi community to be delightful and wonderful. Everyone is good, warm, intelligent, altogether admirable. I know another convert who is sour, dour, prickly and altogether a difficult person, and she finds the Orthodox community to be cold, unwelcoming, uncaring and exclusionary. And both of these women formed their impressions while living in the same neighborhood! Fancy that."

Rabbi Yitzhock Adlerstein writes:

Ironically, albeit for different reasons, some FFB’s may also see BT’s as threatening. An article in the Sivan issue of the Jewish Voice and Opinion, pgs. 28-33 is one of the most disturbing I have read in months. It claims that FFB’s often keep BT’s in a state of dhimmitude – out of their schools and away from their children, both in Israel and in the US. FFB’s often look down upon BT’s, regarding their non-standard behavior as “harryish.” (Since much of the more extreme content of the article was gleaned from blogs, readers should be skeptical of how typical are the vignettes. Clearly, it is not universal. The two most haredi schools in Los Angeles, including the chassidishe cheder, are absolutely open and inviting to ba’alei teshuvah.)

One of the most telling testimonies came from the more than respectable haredi weekly Mishpacha:

“Advocates of the schools’ strict exclusionary policy cited the BTs’ secular relatives, expressing the fear that even second-hand encounters with non-religious people could do irremediable damage to the spiritual health of tender impressionable haredi children…. BT children had to be kept out of mainstream haredi schools because the newly observant tend to meet with their non-religious rela¬tives and the children are exposed to their relatives’ culture, their speech patterns, music, body language, and concepts…. The haredi community has enough troubles with its own young people without importing trouble’ from outside.”

BT’s should be shunned, according to this person – or at least held at bay – because of the risk of infection. BT’s pollute, as surely as secondary cigarette smoke, by exhaling the contaminants they breathe in from their past, and from their unavoidable ongoing contact with associates from their previous lives.

Those who believe this are hopelessly oblivious to the ways in which ba’alei teshuvah positively and sometimes crucially impact upon the mainstream.

First and foremost, they have kept us honest. They have made us think through important issues that the rest of us take for granted. They give us no respite until we can explain what needs explaining. They have buoyed us with their spirit and enthusiasm.

Joe emails:

1. "Kiruv” encompasses many different approaches under one tired title. How can one compare Aish and NCSY? NCSY is a legitimate organization which teaches mainstream Torah Orthodoxy, runs legitimate Israel programs, and is (at least at this time) is monitored by established Orthodox congregations. Aish is more problematic. Their reliance on manipulative approaches, so-called Torah codes (neither Torah nor codes), charismatic leaders, separate minyanim not directly affiliated with mainstream shuls, is in fact problematic. The Orthodox community for many many years has condoned all sorts of things because “they are good for kiruv”. There was the Lanner episode, which fortunately was resolved without damage to the legitimate aims of NCSY, but there was JPSY with Gafni- that was a different story. Or what passed for Kiruv in Israel, leading to the abuse of autistic children, Uzi Meshullam, NaNachs, etc. (we won’t even approach the case of Chabad v’hamaskil yidom). Kiruv programs need to stand or fall on a case by case basis, much like universities, and this circling of the wagons on every case of critique is probably not expedient overall.

2. It is too late to worry about BT infection of FFBhood. Artscroll translations, which were once condoned as "good for kiruv" are now the official sanctioned mark of Orthodoxy, and what current FFBs are weaned upon.

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I Forgot To Lock My Van Overnight

When I went outside this morning, i found a homeless man sleeping in my van.

I came back a couple of hours later and he was gone.

Then I made sure my van was locked.

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Praying In Her Own Voice

I email the director of this excellent documentary, Yael Katzir (a well-known Israeli filmmaker and college professor):

Dear Yael,

Did anything strike you in the differences between the Women of the Wall (and their defenders) and their opponents?

You interviewed many articulate people who opposed the Women of the Wall and many articulate people who supported them.

What struck you as the major differences between these two groups of people? Was one group more friendly to you? Was one group more suspicious? Was one group more uptight? I’m curious.

She replies:

Dear Luke,
A very good question. In fact the women of the wall were a little bit suspicious of my true interest in their cause at the beginning but as I showed perseverance  and  seriousness and also involved them in the process of editing something that I do in all my documentaries we became true friends although I am not an observant jew.  The opponents to the women of the wall were harder to interview. On the surface they tried to be or rather to sound "Liberal" "Tolerant" but in fact they were not. they are threatened by this group and by any thing that might bring a change in the male predominance of the family and society.
I was deeply impressed by the fact that their knowledge of the Jewish scripture is limited to a small number of cliches. (I mean both the Rabbi of the Kotel and Rabbi Nisim Zeev)
The major difference between the two groups is that the Woman of the Wall accept the fact that there are Jews who wish to practice in another way and the Ultra Orthodox believe that there is only one way=their way.
Thank you for preparing me so well for the Q&A on Thursday screening.

Warmly, Yael
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LA’s Earthquake Today Rolled Through While Dennis Prager Was Doing His Ultimate Issues Hour

According to PragerRadio.com:

 

         

 

         

Tuesday July 29, 2008
Prager H3: Dennis makes the case for divine punishment. Callers react.

  Right Click to Save Length: 00:34:26

 In his book The Nine Questions People Ask About Judaism, Dennis says that Judaism does not believe in eternal hellfire. The one problem with this is that it is not true. There are plenty of places in the Talmud that describe eternal hellfire.

Dennis often sets up these rhetorical positions about the superiority of Judaism or whatever he’s advocating, and he’s just so convincing that you don’t think to fact-check him.

One reason that Dennis does not get much respect in many learned Jewish circles (with the David Hartmans of the world)is that he’s not that conversant with Jewish text. Like his friend Joseph Telushkin, he’s more of a secondary sources guy. He’s more of a popularizer than a scholar.

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Using First Names

Rabbi Ari Enkin writes:

According to the Talmud, it is forbidden to refer to one’s parents and teachers by their first names and the prohibition remains in place even after their passing.[1] We are taught that addressing teachers by their first names is so severe that the Talmud declares that one who does so is to be considered an apikores – one who has deliberately distanced himself from Jewish norms.[2] Gehazi was punished only because he referred to his teacher, Elisha, by his first name.[3] If, however, a title prefaces the teacher’s first name, it is permissible to address a teacher in this way.[4] That is why the common Israeli practice of addressing a teacher by first name, preceded by “Morah”, “Moreh”, or "Rav" is halachically acceptable.[5] The Mishna teaches us that one should fear one’s teacher just as one would fear heaven.[6]

Click here to read moreThere was an ancient practice, still used in some religious circles, of addressing one’s teacher and other prominent rabbis in the "third person", known as "lashon nistar" is halachic literature, as a sign of respect. While doing so seems somewhat reasonable in the Yiddish or Hebrew language, speaking this way in English makes for awkward and inconsistent grammar in many instances. As Rabbi Michael Broyde once wrote: "when speaking to the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States during oral argument, if one did not understand the question that he posed, one might say "Chief Justice, I did not understand the question." However, one would not turn to the Chief Justice and say "What did the Chief Justice ask?" Therefore, addressing rabbis in the "second person" should not be seen as a lack of respect.

In the Talmudic era, the title “rabbi” was actually used more for signifying a personal relationship, and not so much as an honorific appellation or scholarly title. Indeed, one will quickly note that many of the Talmudic sages are not even addressed with the title “rabbi.” This was due in part to the cessation of the Sanhedrin, and by extension, the classical semicha, or rabbinic ordination procedure.[7] In our day and age, however, the term “rabbi” is always used as a title, and, therefore, reverence is in order when referring to one’s Torah teachers. In any event, it is always proper manners and good behavior to speak to our teachers, as well as everyone else, with respect.[8] It would be remiss not to point out, however, that rabbis, teachers, and other people in positions of authority are entitled to forgo any formalities owed to them, and may be addressed by their first names should they so desire.[9]

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Split Pea Soup Makes Me Very Happy

I am serious. I eat a hot bowl of split pea soup and I always feel happy.

There’s no other food that so consistently makes me feel good.

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‘The Search Committee’

Rabbi Gil Student writes:

R. Marc Angel’s recent book, The Search Committee, is an interesting attempt to portray the divisions within contemporary Orthodox Judaism through a fictional story. The story revolves around the largest yeshiva in America, Yeshivas Lita. It’s rosh yeshiva has passed away and the board appointed a search committee to find a replacement. The entire book consists of interviews — with the candidates, their spouses, their colleagues and a few others.

The search committee narrowed their options to two candidates — the former rosh yeshiva‘s son and a brilliant, charismatic instructor in the yeshiva. R. Angel uses these two candidates to show the growing split within Orthodoxy. The rosh yeshiva‘s son, Rav Shimshon Grossman, represents isolationist Yeshiva Orthodoxy and the instructor, Rav David Mercado, represents the left wing of Modern Orthodoxy.

Rav Shimshon believes in lifelong, fulltime study of Torah only, with full faith in every utterance of every sage and as little exposure to the gentile and non-religious world as possible. He wants his students to follow the tradition he knows in all aspects of life, whether in terms of study or finding a mate.

Rav David is a ba’al teshuvah married to a convert (long, moving story). He is open-minded to secular knowledge and modern approaches to Jewish texts, greater roles for women in Judaism, and engagement with the gentile and non-religious world.

In this book, you will find articulate arguments for both sides. The book is essentially a passionate debate between Yeshiva Orthodoxy and Modern Orthodoxy. For many readers of this blog, most of these issues are old hat. But for the majority of the Jewish community, who only know their own ideologies and are not familiar with the rationales for other approaches, this book might be very eye-opening. It just might convince a Modern Orthodox reader of the correctness of Yeshiva Orthodoxy and vice versa.

However, it probably will not. That is because the author made the characters too stereotypical. Rav Shimshon is an arrogant bully and Rav David is a humble idealist. The truth is, and I write this from personal experience, that these types of personalities exist on both sides of the divide. This unfortunate portrayal of the personalities involved is, I think, a significant negative in the book.

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Because I’m Luke Ford

A friend writes:

Hi,I’m Luke Ford and I just love attention…any kind of attention…from anyone,really… .the random fair dinkum lost souls who wander into my chatroom to spice up their boring lives..and bitch abt this ‘n that,while endlessly commenting on my not so novel anymore beard and green tea jugs that I use as dumbbells…to the random ladies who get paid to stick needles in me and those who I pay(ok,maybe not in cash, bec I live off Google adsense) to come into the hovel and listen to old 80’s tunes on youtube which fell off the charts about 25 years ago…..never to be heard again except here ladies, because I’m so darn interesting,they never get bored with me…
 
I mean,lets be real…I’m super smart and sexy a la Russell Crowe and such a pretty boy…..even though my twink days are long gone…and i’m flailing…..
 
Sometimes I just get up and leave in the middle of Kiddish(but not before I pile my plate w cookies and fruit) since I can’t stand saying goodbye to some of the ppl at my shul because this sort of one-on-one intimacy is just excruciating to me….but nevertheless, I stroll,I mean -swagger down Pico blvd with the kind of confidence reserved only to PUA’s like Neill Strauss who wrote my favorite book ‘The Game'(copy,paste link,ofcourse).
(but that doesn’t mean I want to emulate that stuff,heaven forbid I try to manipulate a woman into bed,that would be immoral…and I’m your moral leader!)
 
I’m utterly fascinated by female journalists,like Danielle Berrin,even though she has a hard time construing sentences…that make any sense…where is her editor? I should be her editor… and her English Lit. professor…(hot!)and Orit Arfa,well,she’s hot too…but she knows nothin’,nada,niente about what men want…and they certainly don’t want to hear a women ramble on about politics!
 
 Oh yeah,and I also recently had the attention of a really young lass…well,praise the good lord I took her name off the title bar of my blog…I mean…I am a serious journalist!  I have  journalistic integrity for crying out loud….And I report only on important newsworthy issues…..like my feelings! 
 
And I still have Holly Randall,daughter of Suze.net.(paste link! )ooops…delete that,delete,delete…what if my Rabbi clicks on that …I mean,I get like 500,0000 hits a day and he might just be one of them and then the rabbi will see me now and what a hassle…who needs that?  So,yeah, there’s Holly,who buys me lunch and all the other platonic sheilas,who are maybe dissing me…or maybe not… because…I’m Luke Ford from lukeford.net!!
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Minority Journalists Applaud Barack Obama

Here’s the report:

When Obama walked on stage at the McCormick Center, many journalists in the audience leapt to their feet and applauded enthusiastically after being told not to do so. During a two-minute break halfway through the event, which was broadcast live on CNN, journalists ran to the stage to snap photos of Obama.

So do these minority journalists have any journalistic pretensions or are they just shills for their ethnic group?

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