The Case For Dialogue

Jay emails: "Hey Luke! I was watching your interview with the revisionist outside of the Oscars and was thinking about why there isn’t ever a dialogue between holocaust revisionist/ deniers and actual survivors. Education is more effective, right? Like I think it was good how you talked to the guy, gave him a chance to express his views. That’s better then just shutting him down. I’ve been thinking about how my grandma survived Auschwitz and is still alive. How interesting would it be to do some sort of Documentary where we get these two different groups together for dialogue. It could be disastrous, or it could be enlightening. What do you think?"

I suspect those who deny the Holocaust will not to be open to what the survivors say.

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Is It OK To Have Sex With A Goy To Save Klal Yisrael?

The prospect fills me with horror but if I could save the whole Jewish people by committing one tiny eeny wheeny indiscretion with a really hot and powerful shiksa who loved to read books, I suppose I could muster the moral fortitude to overcome my instinctive revulsion at the unsanctioned intimacy and with the help of numerous prescribed medications for the type of dysfunction that always strikes me when I contemplate sex outside of marriage, I suppose I could force my unwilling member to enter a forbidden realm, conquer and lay waste to the inhabitants and plant a flag there for HaShem. But I’d take no joy from this. None. I’d probably throw up afterwards and lie in my shower rocking back and forth calling out, "Why me Oh Lord? Why did you choose me to be Your humble servant for this despicable and degrading act?"

But that’s just me.

Rabbi Ari Kahn has a lecture on this topic on his new website oddly titled RabbiAriKahn.com.

Rabbi Gil Student writes: "Purim is an odd holiday in that one of the heroes of the day lived in sin for most of her life. I am speaking, of course, about Esther, who was married to the Persian king Achashverosh). While a careful review of the language of the book of Esther shows that she was repeatedly taken, i.e. against her will, there is one instance in which she went to Achashverosh willingly (Esther 4:16)."

Apple writes to Hirhurim: "Fascinating topic. I’m in a class discussing if one is obligated/allowed to put oneself in possible physical danger in order to save klal Yisrael. We read a ruling that quoted Rav Kook who said that if you can save the entire klal, even at the expense of your personal safety, you are obligated to put yourself in danger to save the klal. I’m not sure if this would extend to committing the big three, but pikuach nefesh is matir the rest of the mitzvot, so perhaps one would be allowed to "live in sin" as a spy if it would save the entire klal. Of course, this is just me speculating out of the little information I know, so I could be totally off the mark."

LM writes: "Shortly after R. Shlomo Zalman Auerbach passed away, Arutz 7 news reported that this question had been posed to him by an observant member of the Mossad, and that he ruled that this was permissible."

Binyomin Eckstein writes: The Gemara in Taanis 22a tells of the jail warden who wore black shoes and did not wear Tzitzis in order to find out about impending decrees and inform the Chachamim about them. The Beis Yosef in YD 178:2 quotes this Gemara as one of the sources that for the sake of Hatzalas Yisrael wearing black shoes is permitted.

While it is not clear whether this warden lived this lifestyle permanently, it is logical to assume that he never publicly identified himself as a Jew as that would have blown his cover. (See Kesef Mishneh to Avodas Kochavim 11:3 who makes a similar assumption regarding Avtolas Bar Reuven in Meillah 17)

I should add, though, that the Benayahu (Ben Ish Chai) presumes that a warden could not have been privy to high quality information, and he was only able to hear about impending harsh decrees against particular Jews in jail – and he implies that the only way the warden could avoid wearing Tzitzis was by rounding one of the corners.

ANON POSTS: "In a way, this entire discussion evokes Eliezer Berkovits’s ‘Lo Bashamayim Hi’ book, which basically asks the question, are the Jewish people a nation or a sect? If the latter, fine. Halakhah can be a millstone around the neck. Let others do the work for us. If the former, then it follows that the Torah envisions a nation doing the things that nations must do. This obviously includes the ability to engage in national defense, whether food with an OU or a Badatz hashgacha is available or not."

NACHUM POSTS: A well known case is that of Yehudit Nessyahu, an Orthodox female Mossad agent. You can read about her here:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spa…es/ 1025999.html

In his memoir on the Eichmann capture, Peter Malkin quotes her as saying she consulted with her Rav before she went to work with the Mossad, and he gave her a heter. She claimed that she would never eat pork ("Jews have been burned at the stake rather than eat the flesh of a pig"), but sleeping with people was another story ("I can’t recall any Jews dying for that").

Lest I be spreading rechilut, let me stress that there’s no evidence Nessyahu did any such thing. She actually acted the part of a Charedi in the Schumacher case, which she helped solve, and played a part in much larger and important missions, like getting the Jews out of Morocco- and, of course, capturing Eichmann.

You can take Malkin’s story for what it’s worth (he fictionalizes names, at least, as did Isser Harel in his account, and the various accounts don’t entirely agree, so who knows what’s accurate and what’s not), but the uncomfortable but unavoidable fact is that undercover female agents have certain responsibilities (and risks) that males don’t. Necessary ones, too. And "let the non-religious do it" isn’t a very good argument.

But can I also suggest that the author of Esther didn’t even think of such a thing? Who knows what attitudes toward intermarriage were at that time and place? If anything, the Megillah suggests that it would be Achashverosh who would have objected; there’s not a hint in the text that Mordechai or Esther see a thing wrong with the situation. (Even leaving aside the intermarriage, not even the injustice of what is essentially kidnapping and mass rape is raised. Times were a lot different back then, as was the status of not just women but human beings in general.)

Y. Aharon writes: Let’s not get too bogged down with the issue of alleged sexual improprieties in the stories of Esther and Yael. According to the evident sense of the texts, Esther was not married to Mordechai nor did Yael sleep with Sisera. As such, Esther was not required to jeopardize her life to keep Achashverosh at arm’s length, nor did Yael do anything untoward. Remember, Esther was taken involuntarily to the king’s harem. Even afterwards, the Megilla states that the king’s wives were to appear before the king only when specifically summoned. Disobeying such a summons was definitely at the risk of life. Esther was therefore concerned about the wisdom of appearing before the king unsummoned.

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I’ve Got My Live Cam On And I’m Desperate To Connect

Click here to join the therapy.

If it falls to me to start a fight to cut out the cancer of bent and twisted journalism in our country with the simple sword of truth and the trusty shield of British fair play, so be it. I am ready for the fight. The fight against falsehood and those who peddle it. My fight begins today. Thank you and good afternoon.

PS. All my friends read books. Should they stop reading books, they get one warning and after that, if they don’t correct their behavior, they’re out on their ear.

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Marty Turkel Died

I expect that name means nothing to you.

He was a Jew in an industry I covered for 12 years. He was a pioneer in that industry. During the 1960s, he was shooting loops for display on 42nd Street in Manhattan.

Then he hung up his directing spurs and became a salesman at VCA for almost 30 years.

I’ve known Marty since about 1998. He always liked me. In an industry that hated me, he always liked me. He thought I was undercover law enforcement but he liked me anyway. "I can’t help, I just like the kid," he’d say.

For all I know, he may well have saved my life. Many plans were cooked up to get rid of me and he always stuck up for me. He didn’t just like me quietly, he told everyone he liked me, even though that wasn’t cool.

Whenever I ran into Marty, he had the biggest smile.

There aren’t many people I run into who are always glad to see me.

Marty died Monday. He’s been sick for about five years. His funeral is Thursday, March 5, in Azusa. It’s 35 miles away. I think I’m going to skip Alexander Technique class and make that long drive to see a group of people I haven’t seen in 18 months.

Marty’s having a Jewish funeral presided over by a friend of mine.

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What Does It Mean To Connect With Others? Is That Like Hooking Up?

Dr. Spielvogel, you ask if I want to connect with you. Yesterday, all the interns talked about my desire to connect and how I kept analyzing it instead of just doing it. They noted I’m desperate to connect yet keep throwing up road blocks to connection. What does it mean to connect? I’ve never thought, ‘I want to connect.’ I’ve never said those words. I’ve never thought those words. But they are true. I want to connect.

But what does it mean to connect to you? That feels like it is out of bounds, unprofessional, breaking the rules, just plain wrong. It feels needy.

In our first session, you wouldn’t answer my question, "Are you Jewish?" Your name is Spielvogel and you won’t even say if you’re Jewish? Well, what’s the point of connecting to a brick wall? I thought you were saying I should treat you like a wall that I bounce a ball off. So I don’t care about your feelings. I don’t care about connecting to you. I don’t do anything for your benefit. I just talk at you like I talk at a wall because that’s the way you set it up.

I don’t know what it means to connect to my therapist. I know I can cry in here and you’re not going to tell me to buck up. Big deal, 99% of the time I don’t want to cry. I know I can share my feelings in here and you’re not going to say, ‘That’s wrong.’ I know I can tell you about unethical things I’ve done and you’re not going to say, ‘You’re a bad man, Luke Ford.’

Connection. When I have sex with someone, I connect. After we do the physical deed, than we both feel like we know each other and we pretend less. We’re more honest. We share the soul as well as the body. I feel closer to someone after sex than after a year of casual conversation.

I want 2 b 1 w u — not you Dr. Spielvogel!

I connect with people on Shabbat. We gather around the table and there are no phones ringing or TV blaring. We’re in sacred space and people open up.

I’ve written on rabbi-predators for years. Whenever I hear the term, "complicated sexual interaction," I immediately think rape. What women call rape, rabbi-predators call a complex sexual interaction.

Is there a difference between getting a woman to do a physical act she doesn’t want to do — without physical force — and rape? Is there a difference between unwanted sex and rape? Once in my life, my girlfriend of the time said I could have sex with her even though she wasn’t into it. And I did. And she just lay there. And afterwards I felt horrible. I felt emasculated because I couldn’t move her.

I have a problem with boundaries. I tend to keep pushing people until they lay down boundaries and then I resent them for laying down boundaries. Sometimes people are too shy to put up boundaries against me and then I feel like a bully. I have a bad tendency to take what isn’t mine, to reach for what doesn’t belong to me, to push people’s buttons to their very limit and beyond, to write as raunchy as I can without getting tossed from my shul.

Joe emails: "Rabbi Dr. Ford, what you are describing is what analysts would call “transference”. You are supposed to develop insight from this set of feelings evoked by the difficulty you are having with connecting to your analyst. Is this what happened in relationships with your parents or others growing up?"

I have my cam on. I blog. I do yoga. What else must I do to connect?

I want to go where love is. I want you to show me.

Maybe I treat you like a brick wall doc because that’s my default position for relating to people? Unless there’s something special going on, I treat ’em like bricks.

I want to connect to you doc. Next session, we’re gonna look in each other’s eyes until I find the most profound thing I want to say to you.

I was gonna do this with —- in white tantric yoga…

How could I connect with you? What kind of relationship could I have with you? How do we do that?

I want to connect with you Dr. Spielvogel, but what if we connected and then I fell in love with you? I’d feel like a right chump.

For the first six weeks I loved yoga. For the past week, I’ve hated it. A week ago, I was doing 90% of the exercises the teacher led. Now I’m down to about 50% again. I have so much resistance. I sit in class and I’m hating it — though afterwards I’m always glad I went.

I start my day with a cold shower like the Guru suggests. But the rest of day feels like a cold shower too. I do all these exercises and chanting that are supposed to bring happiness and wholeness and prosperity, but every day I keep getting kicked in the gut. Every time I think I’m making a glamorous new beginning, I just get kicked in the gut. Disappointment after disappointment. My life is nothing but grim duty. No comfy rolls in the hay for me.

From my live cam:

UrlTurner:  Who’s the bear?
guest13:  that my dear is the million dollar question
guest13:  the technique is wearing off
UrlTurner:  A friend told me to go here.
UrlTurner:  Guy I met at a gay bar.
UrlTurner:  Said this is a good hookup spot
UrlTurner:  Said I could see a good show here
guest13:  did you say your asher yotzar
UrlTurner:  Is this where he brings in the Gimp?
RussianDragon:  his suggadaddy comes on tuesdays
YourMoralLeader:  I have my cam on. I blog. I do yoga. What else must I do to connect?
UrlTurner:  anal
UrlTurner:  An anal connection is tough to break
guest13:  get rid of the following   1. kippah  2. beard  3, gay music  4. yoga
UrlTurner:  Is this some weird muslim thing?
YourMoralLeader:  will you then give me your body?
UrlTurner:  He looks like a terrorist
YourMoralLeader:  or do you not care for me?
guest13:  get the following:  1. hot jewish chick  2. hot goyish chick 3.  hot chick of any kind
guest7:  ENABLERS ALL OF YOU
guest7:  You are to Luke what a fat welfare check is to a Satmar Hasid
guest7:  Did you know that the city/town/settlement with the HIGHEST rate of welfare dependency in AMERICA is one of those weird, incest-peopled Satmar settlements where everyone shares a few grandparents with their spouse?
YourMoralLeader:  I’m lying on the ground and feeling my feelings and reflecting on my therapy and
ReverendIke:  The Holly Ghost will hook you up
gaz:  we got dot to dots over here and you can color in the different colors
YourMoralLeader:  how i can connect more deeply with my therapist
YourMoralLeader:  i have a lot of feelings right now
guest13:  stop reflecting and start connecting
YourMoralLeader:  can you sense that?
guest3:  feelings nothing more than feelings
gaz:  i think i see someone playing air guitar with a keyboard
YourMoralLeader:  this is sacred space
ReverendIke:  Luke, this does not work for you.
ReverendIke:  It just doesn’t.
guest13:  go roams the streets of pico blvd and look for interesting women
ReverendIke:  Hang out at some Mexican fast food place
YourMoralLeader:  I know how to connect with people via sex and via Torah. Everything else is a muddle.
guest13:  stop playinig with your balls
guest3:  Work on your Purim costume
guest3:  Make some hamantaschen
ReverendIke:  Why do Jews make so much out of Purim, when there is no evidence that this "Queen" Esther ever existed?
guest3:  Get your Kedem jugs out
guest9:  great beard bor hoe long that take to grow thats to be proudof man << not takin the piss btw 🙂
guest13:  go to Nagilla and stare at the bais yaakov girls and give them your full attention

ReverendIke:  This music spawned a generation of faggotry and open borders.
ReverendIke:  This music acoustically destroys testosterone
ReverendIke:  This music is why you do not have a penis

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Running Over Others In My Rush To Hear Torah

So I cut out of Alexander Technique class early so I can arrive on time to my 12:30 pm Torah class.

I curse at other drivers on the road, particularly one guy ahed of mewho’s stopped and waiting for the opportunity to turn left over double yellow lines to enter a gas station.

As I charge down the I-10 East, I hear a pebble strike my windshield and I scream an expletive even though no damage has been done.

I rush into class and with one exception it’s all old people.

One man says about a woman in the class, "Her three kids are doctors!"

Such nachas.

A woman says one of her kids is a doctor.

Cell phones keep going off during the class and they get answered within earshot.

I long for the day that Torah Jews treat Torah with the same reverence that secular Jews treat yoga.

I wait around after class for the free lunch.

When I get back from the bathroom, I’m last in line. There are no plates.

"Do you want falafel, Luke?" asks a friend.

"Yes," I say.

He cuts the one remaining ball in half.

"Oh, that’s ok," I say and head out.

Once I’m out the door, I regret that I didn’t stay around to dig into the bountiful Israeli salad.

I feel sad but I have 20 minutes to get to therapy and eat my substitute lunch of chocolate chip granola bars and peanut butter. I’m scraping the bottom of the 40 oz Skippy Super Chunk peanut butter jar that’s been a two-day-a-week mainstay of my lunches on the run for the past six weeks.

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I’m Glad She Was Moved

A woman told me that she was moved by this blog post of mine.

I replied that I am very glad she is moved, but does it make her want to give me her body (under the qualifications of Jewish law of course).

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Judged About Their Lack Of Jewishness

Non-Orthodox Jews frequently seem concerned that Orthodox Jews are judging them about their lack of Jewishness.

On JewishJournal.com, Jason Lipeles writes: "Although he had a long beard, I wasn’t nervous or thinking that maybe he was judging my lack of Jewishness."

Why would they care? If non-Orthodox Jews were secure in their Jewish identity, they would not be the least concerned about Orthodox Jews judging them.

I don’t think the problem here is Orthodox Jews supposedly judging the lack of Jewishness of non-Orthodox Jews. It is the lack of secure identity of non-Orthodox Jews.

One good thing about living Orthodox Judaism is that you know who you are. Evidently, many if not most non-Orthodox Jews do not know who they are and they worry about it. Deep down, they are not sure sure that their non-Orthodox ways of living are Jewishly legitimate and all the erudite arguments for why they are legitimate don’t settle them down at the soul level.

I live and breathe among Orthodox Jews. I rarely hear any of them discuss the lack of Jewishness of non-Orthodox Jews or the lack of observance. Overwhelmingly, Orthodox Jews don’t care about non-Orthodox Jews and goyim. We don’t fear for their salvation. We feel obligations to fellow Jews that we don’t have for non-Jews, but Orthodoxy keeps you so busy with its many rituals and requirements, there’s simply not much time in the day to worry about those outside the Torah corral. Like everyone else, we care about ourselves and our institutions.

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She Feels Disconnected From Judaism

I was talking to a frum-from-birth friend the other day who feel "disconnected" from Judaism.

She’s not davening every day, she’s not saying blessings all the time when she eats, she’s not learning Torah regularly and she’s not attending shul regularly.

How can you possibly feel connected to Judaism when you don’t do it? Judaism is simple in that respect. You learn what to do and you do it and by doing it, you feel connected to God, Torah and your fellow Jews.

I have various female friends who have all sorts of negative feelings about Judaism yet they want to be connected to it. I want to say to them, "There are a lot of things in this respect more important than your feelings. If you are angry at Jewish law or at certain rabbis or certain synagogues or certain Jewish communities or how your Chabad community reacted to your parents divorce, that’s something you should work out with your therapist. You shouldn’t let that come between you and the amazing Jewish offerings of Pico-Robertson (or your local Jewish community). If you want to be part of the Jewish community, then do the work."

I don’t say this because telling a woman there are more important things than her feelings is usually not worth the aggravation (though it is one of the gifts in life that men can give women).

If you want to convert to Judaism, it is not formidable. It takes less than one-quarter the effort than getting a bacherlor’s degree.

If you are set on joining the Jewish people, no one can stop you. Not even Rabbi Avrohom Union.

Joe emails: "I think a lot of people are disconnected from Judaism right now, especially those who grew up Orthodox. There has been a lot of negative change, the sociology is very different now. Once, study and prayer was in Hebrew, now everything is in ArtScroll English. The thinking is different, much more infested with right wing politics in the US, and much less concern for Israel than there was once (that latter is a big change)."

“I

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Leaving Without Saying Goodbye

I don’t like to say goodbye. It makes me sad and nothing good can develop from it because you are about to split and it often means interrupting someone or waiting to say goodbye and just hanging on and clinging and waiting around and it makes me feel needy and I just don’t like it.

palestine4ever: You should reply: "Sorry, I was in a hurry to relate my attention whore issues to my therapist. Gotta grab some lithium, kthxbye"
palestine4ever:  You know what you need, Luke?
palestine4ever:  A gymnast.
palestine4ever:  Just don’t ever piss them off.
Guest12:  a limber one at that
palestine4ever:  They have muscles bigger than your biceps in the most unusual places.
palestine4ever:  One minute you’re in ecstasy, the next it’s snapped right off.
palestine4ever:  And when you’re feeling tired, she can carry you home.

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