The Powerful M.0. Rabbis Who Administered Shannon Orand’s Conversion To Judaism

There were two in particularRav Shmuel Eliyahu (Chief Rabbi of Safed and the son of the former Sephardic Chief Rabbi of Israel, Mordechai Eliyahu) and Chief Rabbi Dov Lior of Hevron, one of the six most powerful Religious Zionist rabbis in Israel.

Rabbi Dov Lior is fighting with Israel’s Chief Rabbinate. He has a lawsuit against Rabbi Shlomo Amar, Israel’s Sephardic Chief Rabbi for dismissing him from a position he held for over 30 years from his position of examining people who came for semicha (rabbinic ordination).

Why was Rabbi Dov Lior fired from this position? Because the percentage of chareidim that he was passing was too low in Rabbi Shlomo Amar’s estimation.

How did Rabbi Dov Lior conduct this exam? It was a written exam. Your name is not on the exam. You put a number on it. The person who’s checking the paper has no idea whose paper he is checking.

Rabbi Shlomo Amar said that “lifestyle factors” should be considered in determining people’s scores. Rabbi Dov Lior refused. He has sued that the way he was dismissed did not follow the law.

There is a secular law in Israel that Batei Din (Jewish law courts) there are not allowed to convert someone who is not a citizen or permanent resident of Israel.

There are 14 regular Batei Din in Israel, including the one in Safed run by Rav Shmuel Eliyahu. He can oversee conversions.

I wonder who was Shannon Orand’s sponsoring rabbi? The sponsoring rabbi in an Orthodox conversion does not sit on her Beit Din (Jewish law court composed of three rabbis).

Perhaps the rabbis who were working with her in Houston — I assume they never knew what Rabbi Leib Tropper was doing with her — contacted these rabbis in Israel to take care of her conversion another way.

Another possibility is Rav Elyashiv‘s right-hand man for conversions, Rabbi Nachum Eisenstein. He’s the Eternal Jewish Family’s man in Israel for giur (conversions). He’s been attacking the Religious Zionists (aka Modern Orthodox) for a long time. Perhaps these Religious Zionist rabbis did this Shannon Orand conversion to punch Rabbi Nachum Eisenstein in the nose.

Shannon Orand appeared to have been pressed into doing unseemly things by Rabbi Leib Tropper. He had apparently let her know that the only way she was going to get a legitimate conversion to Judaism was if he said it was legitimate.

Rabbi Leib Tropper amassed an enormous amount of power in the Orthodox world through his Eternal Jewish Family foundation. He had significant rabbinic backing because he had a lot of money backing his organization. He was paying the deficits on several yeshivot including that of Moshe Feinstein‘s second son — “Rabbi Reuven Feinstein is the Rosh Yeshiva of the residence hall of Mesivtha Tifereth Jerusalem, located in Staten Island, New York.”

The Eternal Jewish Family has been funding the deficits of Mesivtha Tifereth Jerusalem for about a decade. I don’t expect that Rabbi Reuven Feinstein will withdraw his support from EJF as long as they are financially supporting his yeshiva.

According to the website Jewish Family, Rabbi Rafi Ostroff was the third rabbi on Shannon Orand’s Beit Din. That he’s not qualified to perform marriages in Israel, let alone conversions, may not be relevant. Rabbi Dov Lior and Rabbi Shmuel Eliyahu are qualified dayanim (Jewish law judges). They can put together a Beit Din of whichever rabbis he chooses.

Rabbi Rafi Ostroff works for World Bnei Akiva, which Rav Druckman oversees. This means that Rav Druckman must support this conversion of Shannon Orand.

There was a huge scandal about conversion to Orthodox Judaism in South America in the 1940s. The South American Orthodox rabbis decided they would no longer convert people to Judaism in South America. They would send everyone they thought qualified to Israel instead to do the conversion.

The Ashkenazi Chief Rabbi of Israel at the time, Yitzchak HaLevi Herzog, rejected their takana (enactment).

Why? Because he reasoned that this system would only permit the conversion of the wealthy who could afford to fly to Israel. What about poor people who were sincere about converting to Judaism?

They ended up flying to Florida for conversion (which was considerably less expensive than flying to Israel).

Even though it sounds as if Shannon Orand’s conversion was illegal by secular Israeli law, it is very difficult to tell a court run by such powerful rabbis as Dov Lior and Shmuel Eliyahu that its actions are illegal.

Courts like to determine their own jurisdiction.

Israeli’s Ministry of the Interior issues citizenship cards. They will decide if the conversion falls within what the state of Israel will accept. Even though the Israeli Supreme Court has told the Ministry to accept any conversion, they don’t.

There are places where the rabbinate will accept a conversion and the Ministry will not and other places where the opposite situation occurs.

Generally the Ministry will do whatever the local Israeli consulate tells them to do.

This reminds me of the hazmanah (legal brief) written by Rabbi Shmuel Fried on behalf of the Rabbinical Council of America — the rabbinic arm of the Orthodox Union — to the Bet Din Eizori, Jerusalem in the matter of Rabbi Mordecai Tendler.

Rabbi Shmuel Fried is a toain (an attorney for Jewish law courts). He’s good. He’s tough. He’s based in New York.

Here’s how the toanim in New York practice their craft — they yell and scream at the dayanim to try to intimidate them.

Rabbi Shmuel Fried tried this approach to the Bet Din Eizori in Jerusalem. He started yelling at the rosh beit din (head of the law court).

At batei din in Israel, you usually don’t have a bailiff in the court room but you do have one in the building.

The judges summoned the bailiff and told him to put Rabbi Shmuel Fried in jail for 24 hours. Bring him back then and we’ll continue the case.

When Rabbi Shmuel Fried came back the next day, he was much more civil (according to the transcript).

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SyNudelstein: Luke, what are you doing to help out in Haiti?
SyNudelstein: I’m helping out by blogging about my feelings
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Las Vegas Jewish Federation

A departing employee emails the chairman of the Las Vegas Jewish Federation Leonard Stone:

Leonard, I never had the opportunity to ask you the one burning question I had prior to my leaving the Federation.

What do you suppose your son sees when he looks at you?

I know he sees a father, but does he see a man?

I don’t think so.

A real man would have separated himself from Elliot Karp and done the right and moral thing.

So now Charry Kennedy is history and joins the growing list of ex-Federation employees. I guess all of us were just not the right chemistry? Is that what you tell people?

Thanks to you, I now have to take time from my schedule for a legal deposition in two lawsuits being filed against Karp and the Jewish Federation. (I believe you’re named in them as well.)

Do I tell the truth that you were made aware of the problems by multiple employees and despite knowing about Karp’s past abusive history chose to ignore the situation thus enabling the professional and personal destruction of good, hard-working, honest people to continue.

If you studied history the parallel between 6 million of our people being annihilated because people like you, who might have stepped in but decided to turn their back and your lack of action, isn’t that dissimilar.

I learned a long time ago when my children were born that merely talking about right and wrong is not the same thing as being a man and standing up to injustice, thus serving as an example for them to follow.

So, let me know what you think Jonah sees when he looks at you. I’ll be interested to know.

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Big Boy Rules: America’s Mercenaries Fighting In Iraq

Despite a stomach bug, I interviewed by phone Washington Post reporter Steve Fainaru Wednesday evening, Jan. 13, 2010, about his 2009 book Big Boy Rules.

Luke: “Tell me about the impact of 9/11 upon you personally and professionally.”

Steve: “It had a profound impact. When it happened, I was in Washington. I was covering sports… That job became immediately obsolete. I was tasked to cover terrorism. It took me to New York. Then the [Iraq] war started and I got caught up in the war for the better part of three years.”

“There were several books I could’ve written about Iraq. This story, both personally and professionally, resonated with me the most… The whole private security madness going on over there, the hidden quality of it, it just made it a rich topic.”

Luke: “Why do you think there was a lack of journalistic investigation of the Bush administration’s claims of WMD in Iraq in the run-up before the Iraq war?”

Steve: “The country was in a fever. Nine-eleven changed the dynamic in the country. Newsrooms, like the rest of the country, got caught up in it and we lost sight of our accountability function as a counterweight to the government.”

“The coverage of the [Iraq] war has been quite good. A lot of it was the result of the lessons of going into the war and things that the news media certainly missed.”

Luke: “How would you describe the emotional tone of your book?”

Steve: “In what sense?”

Luke: “It seemed to be very strong emotions driving the book?”

Steve: “It grew out of the writing. I didn’t plan to include my own story until I started to write it… One of the subtexts of the book was that the whole mercenary world was about money…in an order of magnitude that most of these people had not experienced in their lives… What were they chasing over there? What was the country chasing? What were people in the news media chasing? Why were we all there?

“I started to see elements in the mercenaries stories that I saw in my own.”

Luke: “Early in the book, you said that the war was based on a lie?”

Steve: “Yeah, yeah. Of course. Of course. It was predicated on something that proved to be wholly false and at worse a lie, whether that was a self-deception on the part of the Bush administration or it was overtly a lie to drive the country into this disastrous war, I don’t think it really has ever been proven. But yeah, the whole foundation for the war was based on a lie, on a series of lies, right? One of which was not only was there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, but the war would be quick and cheap and done with relatively few troops, and that process led us into the use of mercenaries.

“The whole use of tens of thousands of people who were essentially hired guns to fight the war said so much about the essence of the war and how it was being fought and frankly, for me, the absence of morality about it.”

Luke: “Have you been back to Iraq since your book came out?”

Steve: “No. I have no desire to go back. I went something like a dozen times between 2004 and 2007. Once I got through the end of 2007, I was at the end of my rope. I was disgusted by everything, the kidnapping of the people I knew, the senselessness of it, the negligence on the part of the company and the government, it just sickened me.”

I had to end the interview a minute later as another vomiting attack (flu-related, not subject related) overwhelmed me.

P.S. Here’s my interview from a few months back with New York Times correspondent Dexter Filkins, author of the book “The Forever War”.

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Rabbi Tovia Singer – Lover Of Zion

Rabbi Tovia Singer’s acolyte, the billionaire Guma Aguiar (recently placed in a mental hospital) sounds a lot like his mentor. Watch this video.

The key words and inflection are similar to Tovia Singer.

Here’s Rabbi Singer debating the Christian Trinity:

Here Tovia talks about how he fell in love with the Bible:

Rabbi Tovia Singer has inspired countless American Jews to move to Israel, not an easy sale! He’s an eloquent man, empowered by NLP.

Check out the admiration that co-host Jeremy Gimpel has for Rabbi Singer:

Powerful film of Guma Aguiar, Tovia Singer, David and Reuven Solomon, Eliezer Botzer, Morris and Ben Shirazi in Meron pouring oil on the torch at the grave of Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai on Lag B’omer.

Some of these Tovia Singer videos feel like Tony Robbins’ workshops.

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Dennis Prager: Private Remarks Should Not Be Made Public

On his radio show Jan. 11, 2010, Dennis Prager said about U.S. Senate majority leader Harry Reid’s remarks about Barack Obama being more electable because he was a light-skinned black man who only spoke with a “negro dialect when he wants to”: “I am embarrassed as an American that this is big news.

“I think Harry Reid is one of those who are leading the United States to disaster.”

“I do not care what people say privately. We have started to think that private things muttered to a friend tells us all we need to know about a person… When these writers write these comments, they just make people more wary about opening up to friends and colleagues. It is a self-imposed totalitarianism.

“What is it about totalitarianism that is so frightening? That what you say in private is monitored.”

“The reporting of what people say privately? Tell me why that is different then what the Stasi did in East Germany. Why is this noble? Does it tell you things you need to know about a character?”

“Democrats who called for Trent Lott’s resignation and the media went crazy when [then Republican Senate majority leader Trent Lott said at Strom Thurmond’s 100th birthday party] that we would’ve been better if Strom Thurmond had been elected [president], the last thing on Trent Lott’s mind was that we would’ve been better if we would’ve had a segregationist racial policy. Everybody knows that. It was all for political points on Trent Lott. Now it is for political points on Harry Reid.”

“Gossip is now considered sacred in America. There was once a belief that what you said in private is considered private.”

“It’s a self-imposed totalitarianism when we monitor people’s private talk.”

“Gossip is now considered great political science. That shows you how far America has fallen in our lifetime.”

“The agenda for the left-wing media is to make the country in its image. And they will admit it if you ask them privately. If you ask privately after a couple of drinks the average reporter, is it more important that you just report the news or that you make America a better place through your reporting, what would they say? They would say just like the judges I interviewed on the 9th Circuit, they would say we are here to make America a better place. Since they think a better place is a more left-wing place, the average liberal reporter believes it is more important to push the advocacy of their position than to report.”

“Reporters have now taken on the role of the Stasi in East Germany. They will monitor your private talk and they will ruin your life by doing it.”

“What difference does it make how a person feels? What matters is how a person acts.”

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Liability At Issue In Chabad Lawsuit In Nevada

Report:

At the center of the Nevada case is Theressa Ramani, who filed a lawsuit in District Court in Clark County in 2003 against Chabad of Southern Nevada, Chabad of Summerlin, two rabbis and other individuals she said were affiliated with the two Orthodox synagogues. She alleged that Michael Segelstein was a Chabad cantor when he assaulted her in 2001 in the parking lot of another synagogue.

Ramani alleged that a Chabad rabbi refused to believe her when she told him what Segelstein had done and that the synagogue retaliated against her and her then-teenage son. She alleged that the synagogues, as well as Segelstein, were liable for the assault.

Segelstein pleaded guilty in 2002 to open or gross lewdness. His sentence of one year in jail was suspended under the condition that he successfully completed three years of probation.

Ramani lost her lawsuit, however. District Judge Timothy Williams ruled there was no direct connection between Chabad and the assault. Ramani also failed to prove that Segelstein was a Chabad employee, Williams found.

She filed an appeal in 2007 with the Supreme Court, where, during the past several months, the additional churches and the national victims advocacy groups joined the fray and made the case more significant.

Las Vegas attorney David Frederick, who is representing Chabad and the other defendants, did not return the Sun

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R. Leib Tropper’s Nemesis Guma Aguiar Committed To Psychiatric Hospital

Report:

Betar Jerusalem sponsor Guma Aguiar was forcibly admitted to the Abarbanel Psychiatric Hospital overnight Wednesday following a court order.

Aguiar apparently come out with a series of seemingly bizarre remarks, including a claim to having met Gilad Schalit in Gaza.

Israel Radio reported that the Brazilian-American energy tycoon had only arrived for the last 20 minutes of Saturday’s soccer match at Teddy Stadium between Betar and Bnei Sakhnin, saying his late arrival was due to him having visited the captured IDF soldier.

JAN. 25, 2009 REPORT:

In the legal annals of Broward County, and the often furious back-and-forth between people suing one another for supposed lying, swindling, cheating, sleeping around and other misdeeds, this may be a first.

The director of one of South Florida’s most generous foundations, the Lillian Jean Kaplan Foundation, believes he is the Messiah and has been spending the foundation’s millions to bolster his image, a lawsuit filed by his uncle claims.

The alleged Messiah wannabe, Guma Aguiar, dismisses his uncle’s assertions as nonsense. If he truly believed he was the savior, he said, he would belong in a mental institution.

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WHY MEN CHEAT- the full video debate between Rabbi Shmuley and Dennis Prager

From JewishJournal.com:

In case you missed the LIVE broadcast or debate, JewishJournal.com has a full recording of “Why Men Cheat,” featuring Rabbi Shmuley and Dennis Prager.

Click here to watch!

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Jewish News

From Hirhurim:

  • A Charedi representative on the sad state of the Charedi world: link
  • Dr. David Berger on a resurrected messiah in Judaism: link
  • R. Chaim Druckman fired from Conversion Authority: link
  • Two Jewish Star articles on EJF scandal: I, II
  • EJF scandal spills into Montreal controversy: link
  • Results of OU marital survey: link
  • R. Nati Helfgot – Men, don’t hog the women’s section: link
  • R. Moshe Kletenik and R. Barry Freundel on RCA conversions: link
  • R. Abba Dunner responds to EJF: link
  • Who built the pyramids?: link
  • Negative review: Hillel Halkin on The Invention of the Jewish People: link
  • Negative review: Ari Goldman on Have A Little Faith: link
  • David Brooks: The Tel Aviv Cluster: link
  • Israeli robots remake battlefield: link
  • Orthodox female “rabbi” lost money with Madoff: link
  • R. Shlomo Zalman Auerbach on school-yard fights – hit back: link
  • Gerrer and Chabad chassidim fight in Arad: link
  • Jewish billionaire dies in helicopter crash: link
  • EJF attacks R. Abba Dunner: link
  • Legal opinion: Rabbinical court can invalidate conversions: link
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