What Would The Alt Right Look Like If It Were Run On Spiritual Principles?

What would the Alt Right look like if it was primarily a spiritual movement run on the 12 Steps and 12 Traditions? It couldn’t be in worse shape than it is now.

When my computer isn’t working right, I shut it down and restart.

As the Alt Right collapses, I wonder if its supporters will undergo a similar process. Stop what they’re doing, pause, ponder and go in a new direction under new leadership.

What if the Alt Right operated by the spiritual principles of the 12 Steps and 12 Traditions? Something like this?

1. We admitted we were powerless over demographics—that our lives had become unmanageable.

2. Came to believe that a Power greater than ourselves could restore us to sanity.

Is there any benefit to believing that there is something greater than yourself in the universe? I think so.

3. Made a decision to turn our will and our lives over to the care of God as we understood Him.

Or you could take direction from the people you meet on 4Chan.

4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.

Instead of taking the moral inventory of out-groups, how about we begin with ourselves? Not other people. Us.

5. Admitted to God, to ourselves, and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.

What if we admitted our defects of character to another person? Would that help ground us in reality? Would members of the Alt Right be better off facing where they were selfish, self-seeking, dishonest, inconsideration and fearful?

6. Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.

7. Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.

8. Made a list of all persons we had harmed and became willing to make amends to them all.

9. Made direct amends to such people wherever possible, except when to do so would injure them or others.

10. Continued to take personal inventory and when we were wrong promptly admitted it.

11. Sought through prayer and meditation to improve our conscious contact with God as we understood Him, praying only for knowledge of His will for us and the power to carry that out.

12. Having had a spiritual awakening as the result of these steps, we tried to carry this message to compulsive Alt Righters, and to practice these principles in all our affairs.

Instead of posting provocative flyers and spamming and trolling and provoking and triggering, we instead worked on our own character and developed a superior way of life that attracts people to us rather than repels 98% of normies.

The 12 Traditions of Alt Right Anonymous:

1. Our common welfare should come first; personal recovery depends upon Alt Right unity.

Instead of inviting the New York Times to follow you around for six months while knowing that you have been lying about your service in Iraq (aka Eli Mosley), you instead asks what is best for the cause rather than seek to feed your own delusions of grandeur?

2. For our group purpose there is but one ultimate authority–a loving God as He may express Himself in our group conscience. Our leaders are but trusted servants; they do not govern.

3. The only requirement for Alt Right Anonymous membership is a desire to stop incurring unsecured debt.

4. Each group should be autonomous except in matters affecting other Alt Right groups.

5. Each group has but one primary purpose–to carry its message to the Alt Righter who still suffers.

6. An Alt Right Anonymous group ought never endorse, finance, or lend the Alt Right name to any related facility or outside enterprise, lest problems of money, property, and prestige divert us from our primary purpose.

7. Every Alt Right group ought to be fully self-supporting, declining outside contributions.

8. Alt Right Anonymous should remain forever non-professional, but our service centers may employ special workers.

9. The Alt Right, as such, ought never be organized; but we may create service boards or committees directly responsible to those they serve.

10. The Alt Right has no opinion on outside issues; hence the Alt Right name ought never be drawn into public controversy.

What if Alt Righters had the attitude that they should never be drawn into matters of public controversy? What if they went about their cause with humility and stayed in their lane?

11. Our public relations policy is based on attraction rather than promotion; we need always maintain personal anonymity at the level of press, radio, and films.

I remember a lot of Alt Righters like Matt Heimbach, Matt Parrott and Eli Mosley whose delusions of grandeur did far more damage to their cause than these individuals could possibly repair.

12. Anonymity is the spiritual foundation of all our traditions, ever reminding us to place principles before personalities.

What if the Alt Right emphasized encouraging and understanding their enemies rather than making war on them? What if the Alt Right concentrated on providing support and comfort to those victimized by the current multiculti regime?

Kevin MacDonald vs Nathan Cofnas (3-29-23)

JQ Debate: Nathan Cofnas Critiques Kevin MacDonald (4-17-18)

STANDING ON A WOOD CRATE, CRITIQUING NATHAN COFNAS ON KMAC (3-25-18)

Nathan Cofnas: Still No Evidence for a Jewish Group Evolutionary Strategy (1-8-23)

Nathan Cofnas Interview March 20, 2018

JF Gariepy’s Review Of The Nathan Cofnas Critique

JF Gariepy’s Review Of The Nathan Cofnas Critique II

The Cofnas Critique Gets A Challenge From Historian J. Otto Pohl (2-16-19)

The Cofnas Critique Gets A Challenge From Historian J. Otto Pohl II

Oxford University’s Nathan Cofnas Critiques KMAC’s Culture Of Critique Book (3-10-18)

I was provoked to these crazy thoughts by looking at the Southern Poverty Law Center’s Hate Watch, which links to all these stories about the Alt Right imploding, including this one:

From Splinternews:

([Kyle] Bristow, it seems, could dish it out—but could not take it. “Seems strange to me that you’d think I’d need to utilize the services of the Lügenpresse in order to educate the public about something,” he wrote in response to my request for a press pass, using a Nazi slur meaning ‘lying press.’ “You and your ilk have zero rights at FMI’s events, and you will have even less rights in the forthcoming ethno-state. What I mean by this is the worst thing imagineable, and what this is I will leave to your imagination.” A month later he resigned from FMI.)

Matt Parrott, before he discovered his wife’s alleged affair with Heimbach and quit the party, echoed the sentiment. “The antifa have actually pretty much succeeded in achieving what the progressive left cannot, which is fully and finally deplatforming the hard right. That’s no small victory,” he wrote a day after the MSU demonstration. “They demoralized and disabled the majority of the altright, driving most of them off of the streets and public square.”

In the weeks before he retired from the Alt Right in the most self-pitying pathetic way possible, Kyle Bristol was taunting journalists all over Twitter and threatening genocides. Then a little later, he was crying uncle. How did he make such a dramatic about face? Because the guy wasn’t grounded. One minute he’s threatening to unleash another Holocaust and the next minute he just wants to be left alone. He doesn’t live his life on spiritual principles. He’s not grounded in reality. Humility means living in reality. Humiliation means being caught living outside of reality. Kyle Bristow got humiliated.

Matt Heimbach, Matt Parrot and the Traditional Workers Party destroyed themselves by not living life according to spiritual principles. One minute Heimbach believes he’s America’s fuhrer and is getting soaked by “Hail Heimbach” adulation, and the next minute he’s up inside his father-in-law’s wife and then choking out his poppa and threatening his wife and getting arrested.

When Alt Righters such as Kyle Bristow threaten new holocausts, they are invigorating the opposition. Every act we take brings reaction. Bristow trolled and got destroyed in return. He was arrogant and then he was whipped. One type of behavior leads to the other.

When Richard Spencer announced his dream of a white ethnostate, he unleashed a powerful opposition that has swamped him. If instead Spencer had stayed humble and ambiguous and away from IRL (in real life) activity, the Alt Right would still be known as merry pranksters rather than Nazis.

When a movement is obsessed with optics, it means it does not like the reality of who it is. A movement debating optics means a movement denying reality.

I was just in the parking lot of a small shopping center where an old man (in a yarmulke, no fingers) with his wife in a Prius appeared frozen. An SUV behind them honked once. Then that driver got out, walked over to the old man and asked him if he needed help. What a different approach from the Alt Right’s trolling. The SUV driver didn’t keep honking, didn’t scream or curse at the old man, instead he offered to be of service. What if the Alt Right was primarily known as a group primarily interested in being of service?

I’ve never had a rabbi ask me how I believed about God. Judaism is a tribe. Rabbis look out for the best interests of the tribe. My rabbis wanted to know if I had a job, a good job, a nice place to live, health care, counseling, a match, friends, a comfortable place in the community. They looked out for my welfare.

What if the leaders of the Alt Right put first the welfare of their supporters?

During recessions, congregational rabbis have often spent most of their time findings jobs for their flock. What if Alt Right leaders such as Richard Spencer and Jared Taylor helped their supporters find good jobs?

When a Jew is out of a job or in trouble or struggling with his health, he’ll typically turn to his rabbi for help. Why can’t Alt Right leaders become rebbes to their followers? Everybody needs a rebbe, a 12-step sponsor, an action partner you check in with every day to discuss your plans for moving towards your vision, and an action group to check in with every month. As iron sharpens iron, so too one man sharpens another.

If the Alt Right were run by rabbis, they’d warn their members to not say or do anything likely to harm their relationships with their family, their friends, their community, their work and their education. Rabbis never send their congregants out as cannon fodder in the face of superior opposition. If you were likely to get beaten up at a rally, rabbis would never send you out there to get hurt. If any Jew was talking to his rabbi about taking a controversial public stand that would likely cost him his job, the rabbi would always tell him not to do it. If a Jew asked a rabbi about participating in a demonstration that would likely cost him his job and his family, the rabbi would tell him not to do it.

How do Jews react to would-be converts? They discourage them because they know the damage such a conversion will likely do to the convert’s relationships with his family and friends. Rabbis aren’t eager to break up families. In Judaism, almost anything is permissible if it will lead to shalom bayit (peace in the home) and almost anything is permitted if it will save a life. Living in peace and tranquility and prosperity is a premium value in Judaism and the thought of giving that away for political activism is crazy from a Jewish perspective.

The most common reaction I get from Jews to my conversion is what did it do to my family? Rabbis don’t want to destroy families, including non-Jewish families.

When Jesus encouraged people to leave behind their families to follow him, and to allow the dead to bury the dead, he was speaking outside of Judaism.

When Jews become increasingly religious, rabbis watch out for the person harming his relationships with friends, family and work. If a person is going in a downward spiral as he becomes more religious, rabbis will do all they can to stop it. If your growing Torah observance is not enhancing your life, you are doing something wrong. So too if your growing involvement in the Alt Right is causing a loss of family and friends and income, you’re doing it wrong. Taking the red pill should mean you make more money, not less, that you have better relations with your family, not worse, that you have more standing in your community, not less.

You should never drop more red pills on a person than they can handle just as rabbis would never encourage a person to go around proselytizing Judaism in a way that angers other people. The path of Torah is the path of shalom. Torah scholars are supposed to increase peace in the world. Alt Right scholars should be laying out paths for people to grow in their Alt Right identity as they lead increasingly prosperous lives.

If ingesting the red pill is destroying your life, you’re doing something wrong and you should stop, take stock and seek guidance from someone wiser and more successful than yourself (such as a person making more than $100,000 a year).

If protesting for Zionism will get you fired, no rabbi will endorse that protest. If protesting for Zionism gets you shunned by your family, friends and community, your rabbi will tell you not to do it. Relationships matter. You don’t blow them up for your new political cause.

Rabbis would never had sent the Alt Right on to the streets when they were no resources to look after these people after they got hurt. Knowing how bad many Alt Right supporters would look to the general public, rabbis would have kept them away from IRL (in real life) activism knowing that their deportment would cause far more harm to the movement than good.

One professional Jew would do more for the Alt Right than 100 skinheads.

It’s amazing that the Alt Right has no money. Any moderately sized synagogue brings in more money per annum than the entire Alt Right.

From a Jewish perspective, Christianity is idolatry. Yet you will not find a Jew going around saying that. It’s just not done. It’s not how Jews comport themselves. It would be suicidal to go around telling Christians that they were idolaters while residing in their lands. So why would the Alt Right use Nazi language such as “lugenpresse” and “Hail victory” (English for Seig Heil)? Surely the AR realized this would increase their enemy’s intensity 100 times. Did the AR really expect that these Nazi whistles would increase their own membership and its enthusiasm 150 times? Impossible. Instead, this Nazi larping attracted a bad crowd and discouraged decent people from joining its ranks.

When Europeans found out about some of the negative things about goyim in the Talmud, they were not happy and started burning volumes of Jewish text. How did Jews respond? By trolling? No way. They tried to reduce tension by saying that those negative statements about “akum” (idolaters) were directed at people in the ancient world and did not apply to Christians today. Of course, this was a deliberate deception and even though rabbis may publicly say such things, everyone who’s based in the Talmud knows that these texts on “akum” are still widely applied to Christians. But that’s Jews talking to Jews. Jews don’t talk this way to the wider world. Jews see no reason to make the wider world angrier at them.

Why does the Alt Right package its movement in a way to maximize opposition when it could package itself in a way to minimize opposition? If the Alt Right became a spiritual movement, who’s going to get upset at a spiritual movement? There’s no incentive to destroy a spiritual movement centered around love and service.

Since Trump’s election, every major decision by Alt Right leadership has been a disaster and the AR has been publicly shown to attract the same criminally-inclined, violence-prone marginal men that have stocked neo-nazis groups for 60 years. To normies, these guys look like losers. It didn’t have to be this way. The Alt Right could have packaged itself as a bunch of smart high-achievers with a good sense of humor and a love of their own people.

From my emails and Youtube comments:

* Hi Luke,

This is to let you know how much I’ve been enjoying your recent livestreams on the subject of the alt-right.

I was surprised to realise that the Luke Ford interviewing Enoch, Striker, etc, was the same LF whose pornography gossip column I used to read in the late 90s. I was even more surprised then to discover that LF had undergone a spiritual conversion and was an Orthodox Jew and Alexander practitioner. (Having listened to you for several hours now I realise your conversion was not in any way recent.)

Funnily enough, you were my first ever ‘red pill’ – as you were featured on a late-night show on Channel 4 in the UK called DisinfoNation. You may remember it. Alongside plenty of salacious material related to pornography, the show aired a lot of controversial material which would almost certainly no longer be deemed acceptable today. There was a lot of counter-cultural, conspiracy stuff… and I leaped down the rabbit hole with zeal. That journey ended, some 15 years later, with the alt-right – via David Icke, Mormonism, Osho Rajneesh and all manner of weirdness.

I have a great deal of empathy with the ambivalence you evince for your tradition. I too have always sought to deconstruct whichever community has welcomed me, with often disastrous results, and have suffered accordingly. Thinking back on it, I remember this was an issue for you even in your porn days. I read several message threads on your old gossip site from starlets and others in ‘the industry’ questioning whether LF was ‘pro-porn’ or ‘anti-porn’. Nobody could seem to work our your motivation even then, and I see the same thing happening today amongst the alt-right. I admit I at first thought you were giving ‘our guys’ rope to hang themselves with – after all, Enoch needs no great encouragement to run his mouth off – but I know now that this is not the case. You have a great gift for empathy, and as one with a similar gift, I know authenticity when I see it.

P.S I enjoyed the Vegas Tenold book a lot. Did you catch the cameo from Striker right at the end?

Vegas Tenold writes in his book, Everything You Love Will Burn: Inside the Rebirth of White Nationalism in America:

As soon as I got there Matthew Parrot told me I had to leave. “Nazi Joe is here, and he’d be fucking pissed we invited a journalist. He’s going to come up and start something. You guys better get out.” As menacing a name as it was, I soon found out that “Nazi Joe” was an alias the TWP used for Eric Striker, undoubtedly another alias. Striker was a short, skinny kid with a big head and cartoonish features who liked to rant against Jews on the website the Daily Stormer. He was about as daunting as a very small dog, but his animosity spread among the usually bookish TWP crowd and, in some way I couldn’t quite put my finger on, altered the tenor of my relationship with the group. Matthew wasn’t there, but Striker said he spoke for him when he said I could stay but “the kike had to go.” I was taken aback by the aggression. It felt more like a skinhead gathering than a TWP party.

* Greetings:

I was still watching that episode with TTWL on Jews, Christians, and The West. I got to the part where you describe the example of the Jewish father who was willing to rent a date for his awkward son to take to the prom.

Now that the prodigal Manik is back in the fold, allow me to do my best (affectionate) Manik impression.

MB: “So, Luke, I was watching one of your older videos. I didn’t know Jewish fathers would be willing to rent Jewish girls for their son to take to the prom. Its even more surprising that a Jewish father would rent her daughter out for a prom date. That’s so generious.”

LF: “No, that’s not what he meant. No self-respecting Jew would prostitute his own daughter in such a way. Every Jewish father would know that. No Jewish man would ever think someone would rent their daughter out as a ‘date.’ He was going to rent a shicksa for his son.”

MB: “…”

LF: “…”

MB: “So if I got this right, it’s okay to rent non-Jewish girls for ‘enjoying the world,’ but not okay to rent out Jewish girls for people to ‘enjoy the world’ *with*.”

LF: “That’s right.”

MB: “And you don’t see a Jewish double-standard there?”

LF: “Oh, I do, but you have to understand….”

MB: “Btw, I’ve always wanted to know. What does ‘shicksa’ mean?”

LF: “It’s just a Yiddish word for a non-Jewish woman.”

MB: “Yeah but what’s the origin, I mean, what’s the connotation.”

LF: “You actually don’t want to know.”

MB: “…”

LF: “…”

MB: “Okay.”

Me: Happy Easter.

If Judaism sees the purpose to be enjoyment of this life and this earth, then how come so much of Jewish tradition is focused on suffering? Both secular-modern and religious tradition seems to focus on suffering, not enjoyment.

From Youtube’s recommendations I came upon the video of you and TruthWillLive taking about Jews, Christians, and the West. I didn’t get my answer of why LA converted, but this came up.

Looking at it from the pov of an idolatrous Christian outsider who is actually Jewish-friendly despite no longer wanting you lot involved in anything having to do with intellectual and cultural pursuits that impact us idolaters,* Judaism does seem more worldly, but otoh it seems, behaviorally – believe demonstrated in action – that Jews were put on this Earth to kvetch.

*Except I also have a dichotomy on this because I would happily join arm-in-arm with Orthodox Jews like yourself to suppress the poz (peacefully, of course. If the Dragnet is watching my mails and hoovering everything up into its big data vacuum in Utah, the following is for them [I am sure LF already understands and agrees]: I do not for a second advocate the initiation of aggressive violence against anyone, only our right of self-defense against aggressors, mass rapists, pillagers, invaders, despoilers of civilization, people who openly, candidly say they want those related to me and who I love gone/eliminated, and any other force or element normally considered subject to just response to, proportionate to whatever is needed to prevent them from engaging in it ever again – “Never Again” is for me and mine, too; and I welcome self-defensive alliance with those like LF who also want to save their people from this rising tide of hostile actors).

* The AR need to, en mass, convert to orthodox Judaism. They can then create internet content to their heart’s content w/ no fear of censorship or de-platforming. Simple.
If you are in the UK, replace Orthodox Judaism w/ Islam. Same results, guaranteed.

* I have empathy for JF (I have not been physically promiscuous, it’s not that kind of empathy), and for Heartiste (who you mentioned), and indeed for the women. “They know not what they do.” Heartiste does, though (so my empathy is of a different sort). I read Heartiste fairly prolifically for a few years, and you can tell he’s a disillusioned romantic. He knows that these activities are not making things better. But he’s caught in the world we live in, not the world he’d rather have lived in. A great quote from Centennial comes to mind: “fish can decide which way to swim. But they cannot stop the river.”

Back to my main point: these things become mutually-reinforcing, socially-undermining processes. It’s a spiral. Was promiscuity a first cause? Or simply evidence of? I don’t know if it was the *first* cause of our social disorder or decay. But once unleashed (and it *was* unleashed) it is a contributory factor. My guess is there is a reason why we became susceptible to the bad (deliberately bad) intellectual seduction to engage in it. But once unleashed it moves the process along.

My mother and I have talked about this in other contexts, and in the contexts of what’s happening in the UK (and likely here): all of our girls have been “pre-groomed” before the “Grooming” (or PUA seduction) takes place. And it does not make things better. It has not made individuals or society better off. It has not made people happier (happiness is a poor metric anyhow; “Utilitarianism” is wrong. But that is a whole new topic so I won’t go into it). It’s made family life (the building block of a healthy society) less stable, and it’s made social relations less stable. It’s just bad. But people engage in it and also as a symptom of/result of other factors, too. (Though we, of course, are all also individually responsible for our conduct; so, that part said, my sympathetic empathy is severely tempered as well).

* I have a real problem with Kevin McDonald’s explanation for Jewish behavior. I understand he is an evolutionary biologist, but i don’t understand how you can argue a whole group of people engages in unethical behavior because of their “genes”. With E. Micheal Jones at least we have a cultural, theological and dare i say metaphysical explanation, which, whether true or not at least doesn’t imply that Jews are unethical and duplicitous by “nature”, but are so because of their culture and identity. This is the real Achilles heel of his entire argument, and it is also contradictory, because you cannot claim that Jewish behavior in unethical, only to imply ethics or morality do not exist, for that’s the logical conclusion of ascribing “evolutionary” causes to human behavior. And if Jews are unethical by nature, what solution can there be besides expulsion? And can we even make a moral case against them, if all they are doing is follow the dictates of their genetic programming, or what have you? How is this not purely deterministic thinking that does away with morality, free will and anything like that?

If Jews behave badly, they can only be brought to account if they can be made culpable of any bad behavior they engage in, which is to say that they DO have a choice to behave differently.

* “The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated.” I think this quote sums up some of the more hyperbolic statements made by people on this stream including Luke and Hawley, the speaker in the video. I have a different theory for the current times we are in regarding the alt-right.

What we are witnessing right now is one era ending and a new one, one with far more turbulence and testing, beginning. The negative feeling that many are starting to get is not going to be ending soon, but they are eventually going to get stronger resistance to it until they will be nearly immune. The entire movement itself will become stronger and more immune to negativity it faces from the outside of it. That is because this will be a time of conflict, in-fighting, debating, scrutiny, shedding of dead weight, and overall, this will be the transition from a figurative adolescence into adulthood. This will be the rite of passage era, and it will be do or die.

The first era, when it was in a figurative boyhood, it was based on memes and humor, it was immature and carefree, somewhat nihilistic, not much introspection, and many ideologies were lumped under the alt-right umbrella, warmly welcomed for a time. There was a lack of criticism from one of those ideas towards the other and this was not only accepted but encouraged temporarily. The movement was almost entirely outward facing and founded on memes and humor, ‘triggering the normies’ was the name of the game, and there was even a temporary alliance with the more center-right groups and ideologies to get a President elected.

I think the first sign of this era ending was the TRS doxxing debacle. It was one of the first times that comes to memory where the alt-right had to do some introspection and it had to analyze itself. They had to decide what was acceptable, what was forgivable, who would stand on each side of the short-lived conflict, and what that meant for the potential for those two opposing views and how they wanted to approach the TRS situation to continue on together, if they could even consider themselves under the same umbrella. We then saw the same sort of situation happen during the alt-right’s “thotgate” and the inner debate on what the role of women should be going forward.

The days of ‘triggering the normies’ with memes are mostly over. It’ll always be a small part of it and will never just outright end completely, but it’s no longer effective in serving the current interests. I think we are in this situation right now where we have so many various ideas and approaches that are meant to deal with the problems that all parties involved agree need to be handled somehow. The acceptance of these factors we are facing in the world right now as “problems” for whites that need “solutions” – this is the only unifying adhesive that the label ‘alt-right’ can be created around.

Now it’s time for the alt-right to decide what it wants to be. What is the extent to which it will be able to find solutions that all parties identified as ‘alt-right’ can agree on and rally around? This is a question that will be causing a lot of debates and in-fighting within the movement itself in the coming months and years. It’ll face a lot of durability testing, specifically because of how these groups have learned to handle political conflict, turning these tactics in on each other will be messy.

If the alt-right can get through this, it comes out a man. It will go forward with a sense of solidarity and focus we have never seen from it before. Argumentation will be sharpened against groups and affiliations outside of the alt-right. It will come to mean something much less ambiguous. Those who will be considered alt-right will be much less hesitant and unsure of themselves. The fear to act, from the members who make up the movement, caused by the uncertainties that come with the ambiguous nature the alt-right was formed in, will eventually subside. The problems/solutions debated upon will have winning approaches emerge. The turbulence it will face will give those who brave the storm and come out the other side a seasoned perspective and an unshakable connection to the movement.

* I see a lack of resources as a huge limiting factor & I wonder why funding is so limited? Do you think the AR should make appeals to Gen-Xers & Boomers who were more aligned to the conservative, religious right of the 90’s? They have the money, but, seem unsure about supporting the atheistic/nihilistic elements present in the Alt-Right now. Is this something debated in the AR?

* A big reason why white people are in the position that we’re in is because other groups have taken advantage of our kindness and empathy. They view it as a weakness and as a consequence our lands are being invaded and we’re about to become extinct. We extended our hands out in friendship to the world and now the 3rd world is conquering us.

The biggest problem with the alt-right is that most white people have a heart. If whites were willing to do what is necessary to get the job done, like Jews, this would be over in a week. Morality, kindness, empathy, etc. these are things that have held back white people. Only the most ruthless and strong survive – that’s just the way it is. Other races win out because they’re willing to commit evil and evil is what gets ahead in today’s world.

And do you know how to make money in today’s world? Just tell people what they want to hear. Want to make love to an amazing woman? Just tell her what she wants to hear. Want that big job? Just tell the employer what he wants to hear. I was able to do this for a while with amazing results, but after a time, I felt empty and it bogged me down. In my nature I’m just too much of an honest person to pursue any serious wealth. Goodness, I’m finding it mentally draining just manipulating 50 people a day in my sales job to make ends meet, manipulating millions of “normies” isn’t something I can naturally do.

What the alt-right should learn from the Jews is that the majority of white people fail naturally at being evil. . . Yet our goodness is what kills us, we’re screwed.

* Defending our people isn’t evil, and in fact it is the highest moral good. Jews do what is good for the Jews and they see this as a good thing.
We must do the same.
Accepting our own demise is evil. Allowing our women to be raped is evil. Allowing the third world invasion is evil. Not standing up for our people is evil.

* The losing strategy was taking it off the internet in the same way and being serious about it.
Luke’s right that the real world activism should have been wholly positive, white bread, and passive.
The edgy humor when left alone to the internet helps redpill people Bigly. It’s the only taboo you aren’t allowed to touch socially and that is where comedy will eventually go. Leftists have usd humor to defang ever other tabooa nd push their narratives until they have more bugaboos than taboos.
It’s when people play NAZI for real instead of Larping to redpill that problems started to appear as established organizations and people with power could point to real life pictures of people and events alongside pictures of internet comments and create a plausible narrative of NAZI revival in the USA that Leftist loons would lap up with glee.

* My grandfather is a protestant pastor, my family extremely christian and have passed down hebrew names for generations, first born males all have the middle name Samuel. Coming into the alt-right was therefore difficult for me, my grandfather had no sons and as a theologian he is quite the philosemite and instilled that in me, I feel a deep understanding with Luke in that way having been raised to idolize a people and learn that they rarely have more than contempt for me and mine.

* Luke, I just watched your new 12 steps video and I like it. There are no real world leaders in the Alt-Right. Thought leaders yes, critics yes, and loads of media personalities, but no real leaders of men as of now. This is why nothing gets done and a lot of what you said was true. I’ve been watching your youtube videos for years.

If I may, I would suggest you check out this podcast recently that discussed this very subject. –> “REBEL YELL 311” . The TRS.biz boys host it.

Also, you really should listen to Musonius Rufus. It would be really cool if you could get him on your podcast and he is wicked smart. He is a Southern Alt-Right White Nationalist. Strangely enough while he recognizes the JQ, he shares a lot of your views about “Goy” responsibilty and has had Right-Wing Jews on his show many times before. This act and his unique more accepting views have gotten distance put between him and the other TRS personalities at various times over the years as the TRS guys have swung back in forth between the “wifegate” episode and the real world activism episodes.

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Who Will Turn Up For The Future?

Comments at Steve Sailer:

* The future of Judaism is the ultra-Orthodox. They have kids and they stay Jewish. They are as alien to me as the Amish are to your readers. Still, it is nice to know that they will exist in a hundred years whatever I instinctively feel about them.

It’d be nice if were there a true English equivalent.

The problem, as Rabbi Sacks says, is that they reject the world. Just as other Jews truly reject Judaism/traditional values.

Combining faith, family and place with an openness to the world as it actually is, may be the fundamental challenge facing all European peoples. Or simply all developed nations.

How do we learn to have modern, liberal societies while still turning up for the future?

* All of UNZ.COM is blocked at a friendly public university near me on the same grounds. I can’t send links to anyone who works or attends there–they don’t even bounce; they just vanish. Additionally, I noticed that Google News will not permit Unz to be added to permitted news sources in user preferences. Same with Taki’s and VDare etc.

* The modern orthodox seem to strike a pretty good balance. Men who are modern orthodox typically wear a yarmulke but not a black hat. For the most part, they hold down jobs. They tend to have decent-sized families (3-4 children) but not crazy large. In Israel, the modern orthodox serve in the military and in fact it’s very common to see girls wearing military fatigues which include skirts instead of pants.

But even so, it’s hard to get away from the cold equations of the situation, which is that the modern orthodox (as well as secular Jews) are on track to get swallowed up in a tidal wave of black-hat wearing ultras.

And in fact the entire world is on track to get swallowed up in a tide of ultra-observant people of various religions, it’s just that Jewish people were one of the earlier groups to be fully confronted by modernity and are therefore a bit ahead of everyone else.

* Sailer: Modern Orthodox are well-educated and do a lot of things right. But you better make a quarter of a million dollars per year or so, from what I hear. Sounds like a lot of pressure.

* I have a friend who married a divorced Jewish woman over a decade ago. He converted to Judaism (of what form I’m not sure) as a condition of the marriage, as she had some teenage children from her first marriage.
Prior to his marriage he had been a serious evangelical Christian of some type. The thing is, prior to her first marriage, she also had been a Christian and had also converted because her first husband wanted Jewish children. Chain conversion!
Between the two of them they were making mid six figures easily.
The last time I saw him, a few weeks ago, they had both ceased identifying as Jews and had returned to nominal Christianity. I asked him why he had left Judaism. His answer? “It was costing us way too much money”.
That was all I could get out of him, though I didn’t press very hard.
The kids? No religion at all, though one professes Buddhism after a trip to Asia.

* For an educated couple in the NYC area, 250k is pretty attainable. Keep in mind that Jewish parents are usually pretty good about helping their adult children, which is normally feasible if you have 3 or 4 children not 8.

Probably you should write more about the relationship between parental support and financial/career success. What I’ve learned over the years is that (1) when your family has your back, you can take a lot of risks that others cannot afford to take; and (2) an important element of financial success is calculated risk-taking.

* The article’s summary of David Reich: “recognition of the essentially mongrel nature of humanity should override any notion of some mystical, longstanding connection between people and place.”

Obviously, he’s talking about the Jews and Israel, right? What he is saying is that Jews should give up their ethnocentrism, marry out of their group, forego their claimed connection to the land of Israel and stop trying to destroy the legacy nation-states of Christendom to advance their own narrow tribal group interest.

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Guardian: Hispanic Baseball Fans Revolting Against Trump-Liking Ballclub Owners

Comments at Steve Sailer:

* The USA is, or was arguably the freest, most prosperous nation in history that provided for the greatest number of its citizens to achieve in life what their given talents allowed. It was also noted for definitely being part of the Anglo world and very distinct from Latin America with only an extremely small amount of latinos inherited from the Mexican War.

Despite this the USA has allowed over the past 4o years for latinos to immigrate in numbers to where they now comprise about 18 percent of the population, and will probably eventually become 35 to 40 percent in our lifetime. In effect the USA has allowed itself to become part of Latin America and now houses and takes care of millions of latinos whose lives would be much harder south of the border.

And how do they thank us? Why they get upset that Trump is wanting to build a wall along the border because apparently they feel they have not yet gotten their fair share of the American pie. Rather than show appreciation to the historic American nation who basically allowed them to take a fifth of this nation, they demand we support their continued increase in numbers, at our expense of course, as a condition to show our respect to them.

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Israel Opts To Live, Denies Palestinians Right Of Return

Vox Day writes:

How can Israel possibly deny itself the manifold benefits of these millions of New Israelis, who are every bit as Jewish and Israeli as every current inhabitant of Israel? All they are seeking is a better life for themselves and their children, after all.

Don’t the Israelis understand that their economy will benefit incredibly from all these potential immigrants? Don’t they realize that they have a moral duty, under Jewish law, to tikkun the olam by providing a safe home for all of these poor, desperate refugees? Have they forgotten the sacred lesson of Ellis Island? Have they forgotten that once they were visitors in Egypt?

I understand there are also more than a few refugees from Syria who desperately need a safe haven as well. Perhaps they could become New Israelis by immigrating to the Golan Heights.

For shame! The Israeli border guards have killed 12 New Israelis already. That is not who we are! Those are not Israeli values! What is Israel, after all, if not a nation of immigrants?

Comments at Vox Day:

* The Palestinian leadership has never had a problem with creating more dead Palestinians to further their cause of wiping the “evil Zionist entity” off the face of the earth and claiming the earth for Allah – with the cooperation and support of Western media. The interesting thing will be how many of the Islamic “herd” (er, horde) will “volunteer” for martyrdom on the Israeli border fences.

* The pope has been photographed kissing the feet of refugees. Think about that for a minute.

What the Alt-Right needs to understand is that it doesn’t have a JQ, but rather a CQ. A much more intractable problem as there are a heck of a lot more of them than us and they will not be digging their own graves or getting herded into ghettos anytime soon. Not without a lot of your own going down first. Hard. Not to mention the rainbow coalition of a panoply of other nominally-Christian denominations that are to the left of Lenin on this issue. Unitarians, Presbyterian, and Catholics, to name just a few, are all inveterate sanctuary-city amnesty types and you all know it deep down even if you choose to remain silent about it.

You could get rid of all Jews tomorrow, and be right where you are now for a long time thereafter. Look in the damn mirror.

Plenty of Jews, including ex-Israelis like me living in the West (yes, yes, I need to go back – real scared – hmmm…mmmmm), are majorly based on the issue of immigration and refugees. Trotting out the video of that woman who says Europe is not multicultural enough is dirty pool and irrelevant. Folks like her or Soros don’t represent the vast majority of us. Especially Ashkenazis. The only ones that matter, really.

Jared Taylor at Amren includes Jews in his race-realist mission. Why can’t you guys? We’re, by and large, singing from the same hymnal on this and many other issues. Including traditionalism and the supremacy of Western values. Your stupidity is breath-taking.

* Vox Day: No, we are not. You not only have to go back, you WILL go back. Posture all you like, but your elites are already preparing to jump ship.

Your dishonesty is not only breathtaking, it is predictable and characteristic.

* Bill Kristol would also be bemoaning the laziness and dissipation of the primary inhabitants of Israel.

* Increasingly, I’ve been seeing occasional shots at Israel in the media, having it be referred to as a “White Supreeeemist state”. It’s almost as if certain tactics can backfire.

* Just think of all the doctors and engineers they are keeping out. Don’t they understand that Israel will cease to exist unless their population is reinforced by immigrants?

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I Don’t Feel Bad For The Egyptians (Unless I Make A Special Effort To Understand Their POV)

Andrew Joyce tweets: “Why are people wishing Jews a happy Passover when the festival essentially glorifies the mass infanticide of one of their host populations? Passover is a celebration fit for psychopaths.”

Luke: “As opposed to celebrating the end of WWII where nobody got hurt.”

According to Wikipedia: “In this parashah, Pharaoh changes his mind and sends his army after the Jewish people, trapping them at the Sea of Reeds. God commands Moses to split the sea, allowing them to pass, then closes the sea back upon the Egyptian army. It also contains the miracles of manna and clean water.”

Exodus 13: 17 When Pharaoh let the people go, God did not lead them on the road through the Philistine country, though that was shorter. For God said, “If they face war, they might change their minds and return to Egypt.”

War is rarely the Jews first choice.

13:18: “The Children of Israel were armed when they went up from Egypt…”

So they weren’t pacifists. They didn’t just rely on God to take care of them.

* Ex. 14:5: “When the king of Egypt was told that the people had fled, Pharaoh and his officials changed their minds about them and said, “What have we done? We have let the Israelites go and have lost their services!””

This reminds me of when you have a girl you’re sick of but you don’t want another guy to have her.

Keeping people around as slaves does not serve you because the slaves hate you and will want revenge. Instead, you want to take the approach of Donnie Azoff in The Wolf of Wall Street:

Donnie Azoff: “Well, basically, you know, if the kid was retarded I would… I would, you know, drive it up to the country and just like, you know, open the door and let it… say “You’re free now!” You know? Like, “Run free!” You know?”

* Ex. 14:17: “I will harden the hearts of the Egyptians so that they will go in after them. And I will gain glory through Pharaoh and all his army, through his chariots and his horsemen. 18 The Egyptians will know that I am the Lord when I gain glory through Pharaoh, his chariots and his horsemen.””

Some people complain when God lets the wicked prosper. Other people complain when God punishes the wicked. Which do you want? A politically correct Torah would say that God, instead of punishing Pharoah, took him to therapy. (Dennis Prager)

The God of the Jews is the God that the Egyptians worship today (whether they are Christian or Muslim). Nobody today worships the gods of the Pharoahs.

The Torah proclaims that the world is run by a moral order coming from God that ultimately triumphs over evil.

Ex. 14:23: “The Egyptians pursued them, and all Pharaoh’s horses and chariots and horsemen followed them into the sea. 24 During the last watch of the night the Lord looked down from the pillar of fire and cloud at the Egyptian army and threw it into confusion. 25 He jammed[b] the wheels of their chariots so that they had difficulty driving.”

Sounds like what happens whenever you invade a country you have no business being in, like the US invading Afghanistan in 2002 and Iraq in 2003.

Joe* emails:

I always wondered why Pharaoh did not just have Moses killed. Or Moses and Aaron both.

It would have quickly ended the political rebellion of the slaves because it would seem that Moses/Aaron were the only instruments of god’s will. For whatever reason, god chose not to appear to Pharaoh directly (he has done so to non-jewish luminaries – see Bilaam), but rather use a mortal.

Well, why not kill the mortal, and then, at the very least, it would take some time to groom a successor and buy Pharaoh some time. It is as if Pharaoh, who was a descendant of the earlier Pharaoh who liked the Jews, seemed inclined to countenance the Jewish god and his messengers.

One reasons might be the Arafat theory. Why kill Moses (why kill Arafat, until he died of AIDS), who had a predictable M.O. (see the king to make a demand, have the demand rejected, impose a plague, come see the king to reiterate the demand, pray for end to the plague in exchange for agreeing to the demand, then keep the Jews slaves anyway).

Another reason might be that it was part of gods taking away of free will, that Pharaoh had to act stupidly so as to allow for multiple plagues so that the story could be told.

Finally, the prophecy stated that the Jews would come out of Egypt with great wealth, and god chose moses to implement the prophecy and told him so, ergo a loss of moses would call into question the divine. So, Pharaoh had to be made to play along. Contrast (or compare) that with Purim – Haman did go after Mordecai, and it made the situation worse (he thought better) for him. But clearly, killing the mortal is the smart move (unless he happens to be the one who saved the king’s life).

This last point almost proves the divine from the story without the need for revelation or crossing the red sea, no mortal king would have suffered the BS from Moses without at least an attempt at killing Moses. The mafia “wacks” people over a missed drug shipment, and the head of the most powerful country (whose predecessor had all baby boys killed on a whim) in the world does nothing?

What is clear is that at some point, Pharaoh lost his patience, and after the plague of darkness, told Moses that if he came back again, he would be killed. All of a sudden, Moses got uppity and proclaimed that Moses would not be coming back, as if he took Pharaoh seriously. And god was offended too, as god immediately launched into the first born extermination. Read the text

Just wondering if there is a good explanation out there?

Unz.com has republished this essay from The Occidental Observer.

Comments:

* Pharaoh is a symbol of resistance to G_d. Jewish history has many stories about resistance and punishment. Tsars and others will be more modern pharaohs, as resistance needs an object to make the story continue.

* My old man used to tell me that if one or two people didn’t like you, maybe they had a problem. One the other hand, if everyone doesn’t like you, it’s probably not everyone that has the problem.

* Moses and the Israelites aren’t nice in the the story of Jericho told in Joshua 6:1-27, summarized at Wiki:

“Moses instructed them to seize the [promised] land by conquest, and placed them under the command of Joshua. Joshua sent spies to Jericho, the first city of Canaan to be taken, and discovered that the land was in fear of Israel and their God. The Israelites marched around the walls once every day for seven days with the priests and the Ark of the Covenant. On the seventh day they marched seven times around the walls, then the priests blew their ram’s horns, the Israelites raised a great shout, and the walls of the city fell. Following God’s law of herem the Israelites took no slaves or plunder but slaughtered every man, woman and child in Jericho.”

This is a difficult bedtime story to explain God’s law to children, and adults, especially Arabs. I had to look up herem:

Herem or cherem (Hebrew: חרם, ḥērem), as used in the Tanakh, means ‘devote’ or ‘destroy’. It is also referred to as the ban. The term has been explained in different ways by scholars. It has been defined as “a mode of secluding, and rendering harmless, anything imperilling the religious life of the nation,” or “the total destruction of the enemy and his goods at the conclusion of a campaign,” or “uncompromising consecration of property and dedication of the property to God without possibility of recall or redemption.

* Unlike many of you, I stand in awe of a people who are only capable of good; or at least whose occasional resort to unpleasant tactics is always forced upon them by their enemies; who can convince the masses that despite being the wealthiest and most privileged among us, they are forever our victims; whose critics are forever motivated by an eternal, unreasoning race-hatred, always and everywhere unrelated to anything these people might have done; and who can bring their host societies to the point of self-destruction without any complaints save those few whom the same societies happily marginalize on command.

Unlike many of you, I stand in awe of such a people. Among their many talents is an unerring intuition as to their host societies’ weaknesses, such as the altruism and sense of fair play which characterized the American population of earlier times. Among their talents is to gain such a stranglehold upon the production of ‘truth’ that they not only get others to do their bidding, they get them to do it with an unholy vengeance. I stand in awe of such a people. Well, awe is one word for it.

* I am surprised that Jews did care about Greek achievements and wanted to appropriate them or diminish them already in the mid-second century BC. After all for the next 2000 years until the 19 century emancipation of Jews in Europe, Jews did not participate in the cultural and scientific endeavors of the West that originated in Athens. They did not really produce any science including any mathematics, any art, or music or literature prior to 1800. So their objective was just to change the narrative to diminish the achievements of Greeks that they certainly must have recognized and probably were envious of them. Was the attempt to change the narrative and revise the history only for the internal consumption? A similar attempt was made by African American scholars in the 20 century which was directed only for consumption in Black community to lift their sense of self-worth and amplify their separateness from the world at large preventing further assimilation.

Watch live. Wikipedia: “The parashah tells of the Israelites’ affliction in Egypt, the hiding and rescuing of the infant Moses, Moses in Midian, the calling of Moses, circumcision on the way, meeting the elders, and Moses before Pharaoh.” My show with Rabbi Rabbs on this Torah portion from 2010.

Morality and abstract thought.

* Meir Kahane’s 1985 debate with Dennis Prager.

Alt Right Torah Show from a year ago:

The Alt Right has many definitions. One is that it is not the conservatism ruling in the Republican party which stands for, “Invade the world, invite the world.” Another explanation is that it is an entry vehicle for white nationalism which is inherently racist, xenophobic and anti-Semitic.

Is racism, xenophobic and anti-Semitism ever rational? Ever self-interested? Or is it always crazy and destructive to the hater?

Dissident Right tweets: “Every time I read the Culture of Critique [By Kevin MacDonald], I can feel my heart hardening like Pharoah.”

* Exodus 1:7: “but the Israelites were exceedingly fruitful; they multiplied greatly, increased in numbers and became so numerous that the land was filled with them.”

So what percentage of the Egyptian population were the Israelites? This is important because we have no example from history of Jews comprising more than 5% of a nation and that country was not convulsed by anti-semitism.

Would the country of Israel be thrilled if non-Jews in their midst multiplied greatly? Of course not.

As the Torah lays it out, any other nation would have been racked by ethnic hostility in this situation. We don’t have examples in history where the ethnic balance in a nation changes dramatically and there’s not conflict and killing. If Exodus 1:7 was about Hutus and Tutsis or white and Mexicans or Poles and Germans or Malays and Chinese or Muslims and non-Muslims you would have the same sort of reaction. Viewed from this perspective, the Pharoah and the Egyptians had considerably less freedom of will than is generally supposed.

An Israeli who captured Adolf Eichman said the man did not hate Jews, he simply had a job to do. The Pharoah may not have hated Jews, he simply had a job to do for his people.

* After Egypt kicks out the Jews, did it decline in power and influence? Perhaps it missed its high IQ Jews? Before WWII, Germany was the most important cultural and academic influence on the world, after WWII, not so much. How many people can name a living German aside from Angela Merkel?

According to the History Channel: “For almost 30 centuries—from its unification around 3100 B.C. to its conquest by Alexander the Great in 332 B.C.—ancient Egypt was the preeminent civilization in the Mediterranean world.”

* Steve Sailer writes: “There is not really that much of a market for Jewish self-awareness. It’s not as if a novelist as talented as Roth is incapable of it, but there’s simply little demand these days for Roth to go very deep into these kind of patterns.”

* The Pharoah’s daughter saves Moses. Why? Because women rarely have national or racial loyalty above and beyond their feelings. She sees this baby and her heart goes out to it, even though it is a child of her country’s enemy (in the eyes of Pharoah). And she adopts him.

* Ex. 2:12. If Moses saw a Hebrew beating an Egyptian, would he also have intervened and beat the Hebrew?

What is Alt Right Torah?

* Alt Right Torah means treating non-Jews as if they were every bit as human as you, had the same hopes and dreams for their people, and extending to these goyim the same sympathy Jews want for themselves. It means putting yourself in their position. How would it have felt to be the Pharoah of the Exodus and Esav and Cain and Haman and Amalek and Balaam and to wrestle with the particular challenges of Jews. What about the desires of goyim for cohesion, unity, strength and the development of their people and how does that clash with Jewish interests?

* Alt Right Torah means never seeking anything for your group that you wouldn’t wish for other groups. When there are fundamental conflicts of interest, your enemy is your enemy, but not diabolical. There are no objectively good guys and bad guys in the universe. Without faith, life is a fight over scarce resources. With faith, life can be anything. You may not care about evolution, but evolution will remove those who don’t adapt.

* The purpose of the nation state is to develop a particular people.

* When you let women into policy, they invite snakes into your paradise and destroy civilization.

* Why did Cain kill Abel? Because Abel wanted to be sacrificed and brought it about.

* Why did Esav hate Jacob? Because Jacob hated Esav after cheating him out of his birthright.

* Why did the Pharoah want to enslave the Israelites? Because he didn’t want Egypt to become multicultural.

* Why did Amalek hate Israel? Because it had fundamental conflicts of interest with Israel.

* Why did Haman want to kill the Jews? Because he thought the Jews would kill him and his people if they could.

* The Spanish Inquisition was a reaction to Jews ostensibly converting to Christianity but remaining Jewish in their secret identity and practices.

* Every horrible thing you ascribe to your enemies’ motivation is likely a projection of your own thinking.

* What was the Golden Age? When Muslims took over the Iberian Peninsula from the Christians with perhaps a little help from the Jews to make things super multi culti. Would Jews regard it as a Golden Age if Muslims took over the Jewish state of Israel with help from the Druze or Christians?

In the Book of Exodus, we have a Pharoah who wants to make Egypt great again but putting Egypt first, not Israel first. This rise in Egyptian nationalism is dangerous to residents of Egypt who don’t identify as Egyptian, such as the descendants of Jacob. The Torah uses the word “Am” to mean “blood nation” when quoting the new Pharoah about the threat of the Jews. It is one blood nation threatened by another blood nation.

The other Hebrew word for nation is “goy” which does not have the same connotation of blood ties.

The Jews apparently moved throughout Egypt, and didn’t just stick to Goshen. It could have been Hitler speaking in Ex. 1:9. From a racial perspective, a Jew can’t stop being a Jew, while from a religious perspective, Jews can convert to your religion. You could not convert to being an Egyptian or Greek (though you could become a Roman) perhaps today to being French or German.

Exodus 1:8: “A new king arose on Egypt who did not know Joseph.”

The Bible doesn’t say a new king arose in Egypt, but on Egypt, signifying he is a tyrant.

Dennis Prager: “Joseph had saved Egypt… I owe nothing to this group that saved Egypt.”

“To use a Jewish parallel in the contemporary era, when I hear black anti-semitism, I think of this verse. Jews played a phenomenally disproportionate role in the civil rights movement… It was Jewish lawyers who argued civil rights legislation in the 1950s before the Supreme Court. This has come to haunt the Jews. There’s resentment from black nationalists.”

Kevin MacDonald writes:

Jewish activism was a critical
force in leading, organizing, and funding the revolution in ethnic relations that has occurred in the U.S. since WWII. Even Harold Cruse, a trenchant black critic of the black-Jewish alliance,
noted that “The truth was (and is) that the American Jewish Committee and its intellectual adherents pioneered in ways never equaled by their white Protestant allies.”

(A similar statement could be made regarding Jewish involvement in opening up U.S. immigration to all the peoples of the world.)

This is not to say that blacks would not have eventually attempted to alter their situation in the absence of an alliance with Jews. However, it is difficult to believe that these efforts would have been so effective and so quickly successful in the absence of Jewish involvement. After all, at least until the 1960s blacks had not shown themselves to be able to develop effective organizations without Jewish input. Blacks, as a low-achieving group, continue
to have relatively little power and influence in ethnic relations in the United States and remain underrepresented in all the elite institutions of society. Because of their high intelligence, their
high level of mobilization, and their overrepresentation in elite institutions of the government, the media, business, and the academic world, Jewish influence is far out of proportion to their
numbers.

White non-Jews have relatively little influence compared to Jews because of their lack of mobilization to achieve their ethnic interests. Moreover, continuing Jewish involvement in the media and in funding black organizations remains an important ingredient in black success long after the leadership of these organizations passed to blacks. For example, Murray Friedman notes that after 1955 blacks assumed the leadership of the movement: “No longer would Jewish leaders and other outsiders call the shots. They would work behind the scenes, providing money and advice to [Martin
Luther] King and his lieutenants, who would head the movement, win the headlines, and endure the jail sentences.”

…Harold Cruse, a black intellectual, presents a particularly trenchant analysis of the role of Jewish self-interest in their role in Jewish-black coalition: “Jews know exactly what they want in America.” Jews want cultural pluralism because of their long-term policy of nonassmilation and group solidarity. Cruse notes, however, that the Jewish experience in Europe has shown them
that “two can play this game” (i.e., develop highly nationalistic ethnocentric groups), and “when that happens, woe be to the side that is short on numbers.”

…Cruse observes that Jewish organizations view white nationalism as their greatest potential threat and they have tended to support pro-black integration (i.e., assimilationist, individualist) policies for blacks in America, presumably because such policies dilute white power and lessen the possibility of a cohesive, nationalist anti-Jewish white majority. At the same time, Jewish organizations have opposed a black nationalist position while pursuing an anti-assimilationist, nationalist group strategy for
their own group.

Dennis Prager: “The Jewish dream is that the world not be based on blood ties. It is the only dream ultimately that will save humanity given the horrors of blood historically. Blood beliefs are the greatest source of cruelty in history because if you are not my blood, you are not valuable. That’s how people have lived.”

“The reason that Hitler so hated the Jews was a belief in blood. The Jews are the world’s polluters of blood purity. If you are into the purity of blood, the Jews are your quintessential enemy because wherever the Jews are, they assimilate in part and stay Jewish in part. They are part of you but not fully part of you because of their blood. If they fully assimilate, they are still dangerous… The assimilated Jew was the ultimate polluter of German purity. If you believe in the purity of the nation, the Jews are the quintessence of the opposition to you because Jews are all over the place. Historically, the only nation to keep its identity and still be all over was the Jews. Jews stayed a nation and still became a part of other nations.”

“It could have been Hitler speaking in verse nine. He [Pharoah] doesn’t like that the Jews are all over Egypt, maintaining their identity but also a part of Egyptian life. He was interested in blood purity.

“Christian anti-semitism was not racist, it was theological. If you become Christian, you are fine with us, but you can never give up being Jewish to a racist because you can’t change your blood. That is why Christianity could never have produced the Holocaust.” (Dennis’s lecture on Exodus 1, as part of his Torah verse by verse project.)

Exodus 1:9-10: ““Look,” he said to his people, “the Israelites have become far too numerous for us. 10 Come, we must deal shrewdly with them or they will become even more numerous and, if war breaks out, will join our enemies, fight against us and leave the country.”

Dennis: “The Jewish nation was unique in that it took converts. You couldn’t convert to being Greek or Egyptian [but you could become a Roman]. Can you imagine a black showing up in Alexandria and saying I’d like to become an Egyptian? That’s ludicrous. It’s like a man showing up and saying I’d like to be a woman.”

“Jewish assimilation is a problem for host peoples. It is the old issues of dual loyalties — are you an American or are you a Jew? Jews are both. There’s no problem with that. Why would they conflict? Are you first a Christian and then an American?”

“For all of us, our religious values should come before our blood-based values.”

“Jewish assimilation is a problem. The Jews would be plentiful, do well, and yet retain their distinct identity, which if they wanted to give up, they couldn’t because the Egyptians wouldn’t let them. When Jews assimilate, they are called a Fifth Column. When they don’t assimilate, they’re called insular and tribal and parochial and provincial. That’s why Zionism was founded — let the Jews normalize and live in their own country like every other nation. The world is not ready, said Theodore Herzl, for having an Other in its midst. Egypt was not ready to have an Other in its midst. We have no inkling that the Jews were disloyal or bothering them in any way.”

Converts have accounted for only a miniscule number of Jews (Jewish DNA is distinctive, it would not be with a large number of converts). Fewer than 100 people convert to Orthodox Judaism each year.

Another way of understanding “blood purity” is that you know who your parents are. Ninety eight percent of whites in America have no black DNA. That’s a result of “blood purity” in North America as opposed to the assimilation of Latin America.

Being against “blood ties” is being against the importance of family and relations. Family means blood ties. Families not connected by blood ties are not as close. Parents do not provide the same support for children who are not theirs biologically. Genetic similarity fuels bonds, self-sacrifice, and nationalism. The closer the genetic tie, the more likely people will get along.

I think there is a resurgence of anti-Semitism in Egypt because at this point in time Egypt and its new Pharoah had not yet learned how to be multicultural. And I think Jews were going to be part of the throes of that transformation, which had to take place. Egypt was not going to be the monolithic society they once were in the last century. Jews were going to be at the centre of that. It’s a huge transformation for Egypt to make. They are now going into a multicultural mode and Jews will be resented because of our leading role. But without that leading role and without that transformation, Egypt will not survive.

* In Exodus 1:10, the Pharoah says let’s out-smart the Hebrews. Because this strategy has rarely worked, we get more brutal strategies such as Hitler’s genocide.

Lawrence Murray writes:

The plague of frogs has certainly made the land of the United States less hospitable to its parasites. “America First” is antithetical to the Hebrews, while President Trump’s calls to expel illegal settlers and seal off the border also render the country hostile to further exploitation at their hands.

The Jewish press makes no attempt to hide their hatred for President Trump; truly then he is a “plague” upon their house. If America is such a horrible racist and anti-semitic country, perhaps it is time for an exodus? Surely you’ve been through worse—you never hesitate to remind us—but why take chances? The promised land calls the children of Israel home. Are you really going to “fight” Trump by doing everything populists accuse (((the elite))) of doing in the first place? Not a good plan. Chaos tends to win, and the chaos candidate has won. The god of primordial darkness has sent his sign.

At the same time, Time magazine calls President Trump the leader of the “Divided States of America.” Hysteria engulfs the country as leftists and people of color demonstrate against the idea of having a national populist for president, making the case for partition. Nationalism for some and diversity for others would mean disorder it is true; but would be an act of creation as much as an act of destruction. That the American Empire may become a thing of the history books is perhaps the most chaotic writing on the wall of all. And it might have been set in motion by a plague of frogs, brought forth by the chaos god himself.

Anyone who has benefited from the expertise and hard work of Chinese and Jews will find this essay one-sided and overly polemical, but as for the fundamental fact of life that different groups have different interests, that perspective is valuable. The interests of Jews are often different from those of Chinese and of goyim.

Reading this harsh assessment of Jews and Chinese feels like being attacked by an axe murderer. It’s just blow after blow and seems horribly unfair.

As a Jew, I think of how Jews have saved gentile countries such as Joseph saving Egypt from famine. But I understand how non-Jews can read the same texts and study the same history and come to different conclusions.

From the Torah perspective, in the first chapter of Exodus, a Pharoah arises who feels no gratitude to the group that saved his country.

Jews feel the same lack of gratitude from blacks. Jews funded and led black civil rights but the more educated the black, the more likely they are today to be anti-Semitic.

More than two years ago, I wrote:

Was It Rational For Egypt To Enslave The Israelites?

From this week’s Torah portion:

8 Then a new king, to whom Joseph meant nothing, came to power in Egypt. 9 “Look,” he said to his people, “the Israelites have become far too numerous for us. 10 Come, we must deal shrewdly with them or they will become even more numerous and, if war breaks out, will join our enemies, fight against us and leave the country.”

11 So they put slave masters over them to oppress them with forced labor, and they built Pithom and Rameses as store cities for Pharaoh. 12 But the more they were oppressed, the more they multiplied and spread; so the Egyptians came to dread the Israelites 13 and worked them ruthlessly. 14 They made their lives bitter with harsh labor in brick and mortar and with all kinds of work in the fields; in all their harsh labor the Egyptians worked them ruthlessly.

I suspect the Israelites did not identify as Egyptians. I doubt they had Egypt’s best interests at heart as much as they had their own interests at heart. I suspect they viewed the goyim as Torah Jews tend to do. So why wouldn’t Egypt want to deal harshly with them?

This problem has come up again and again in Jewish history. Host nations (aside from English-speaking ones and a few others) have consistently doubted the patriotism of their Jews. Professor Lindemann writes in his book Esau’s Tears: Modern Anti-Semitism and the Rise of the Jews: “For many Russians [at the turn of the 20th Century], their country’s Jewish population appeared as a rapidly growing and increasingly hostile body, actively if secretly collaborating with those enemies.” (Pg. 280)

I always ask, what if goyim acted as Jews would act in a given situation? I don’t think a Jewish state would have much patience with a fifth column in their midst. I don’t think Jews think much about what would happen if others acted as Jews act, or how Jews would act if they had control of a Jewish state.

Israel abstains today from expelling the fifth column in its midst for pragmatic reasons, for fear of offending western democracies, not because Torah and the Jewish tradition have any problem with expelling the fifth column.

The Jewish commentaries I consulted argued about whether the Egyptians were sinning primarily against God or against their fellow human beings when they enslaved the Israelites. I don’t see any sin here by the Pharoah. It sounds to me like the new Pharoah rationally saw the Israelites as a rising fifth column in his midst and so he took action to deal with the problem.

The modern state of Israel has a similar problem with its Arabs and I am sure most Jewish Israelis would love for the Arabs to leave Israel. Under Torah law, the Jewish state would expel non-Jews who were problems. Every strong nation will expel or enslave a rising fifth column in their midst.

France has this problem with its Muslims. Europe has this problem with its Muslims. Perhaps the best solution for Europe would be to expel their Muslims, just as the Egyptians eventually expelled the Israelites?

The Pharoah feared that the Israelites would “join our enemies, fight against us.” Let’s look at the immigration policy of Agudas Israel, the Orthodox lobby group: “Finally, in the area of immigration, Agudath Israel urges that American borders continue to be open to Jewish and other refugees who seek to come to the United States after escaping from oppressive political environments. The United States is a nation of immigrants and has long been distinguished by its generosity toward refugees from all across the globe. It is essential that such generosity continue to be maintained in today’s era of international volatil ity. Agudath Israel accordingly opposes any efforts to impose caps or quotas on refugees seeking safe haven in the United States. Agudath Israel further supports the provision of welfare benefits to needy non-citizen immigrants.”

This policy effectively calls for the end of the historic American white nation by replacing it by hostile refugees. Do you think Mexicans, Guatemalans, black Africans and Muslims really care for the historic white American Christian nation? Do you think they venerate George Washington and Thomas Jefferson? I don’t. For their own understandable reasons, these groups are hostile to the historic American nation. All closely identifying in-groups, such as Muslims, tend to be have suspicion of, if not outright hostility towards, out-groups. Why would any rational nation want to import this diversity, conflict and hostility? And yet every major Jewish organization wants amnesty for the approximately 20 million illegals living in the United States, thus inviting countless more millions to come in. This is effectively a call for the overthrow of America and its replacement by hostile groups. This is effectively a call for treason.

Sure, if this immigration amnesty goes through, there will be still be a land mass called the United States of America, but the historic white people who created it will be overwhelmed by hostile outsiders and America as we have known this nation will be finished. Already, without immigration amnesty, whites are set to become a minority in America by 2042 and latinos are set to become a majority by 2060.

An Orthodox rabbi says: “Was Haman acting in self interest or Hitler? Pharoah didn’t expel them, he enslaved them. If he expelled them, it would [have] be[en] a different situation.”

To expel would have meant in Pharoah’s eyes to kill them all because they could not be expected to survive in the desert.

Another Orthodox rabbi tells me: “I think the Torah is telling us with ‘who did not know Joseph’, that had he understood the Jews and their role in Egypt he would have grasped the benefit.”

A Jewish friend says:

Pharaoh was concerned that the Jews would join ‘enemies,’ which could be many things. In addition to an invasion, it could be an underclass, slaves, minorities; any sort of outsiders. Why join ‘unto’ our enemies? Because the Jew will hide his hatred behind the stated motive of the enemy he is abetting.

While Jews only recognize an irrational hatred of Jews, the Torah is clear that Pharaoh believes he has reason to fear Hebrew talents and hostility.

An Orthodox friend says:

I disagree. The Jews weren’t a “captured” nation or a subservient nation. They lived there as equals for many years, assisting in building the economy and creating immense success for the Egyptians. Enslavement came via manipulation of their hard work and nationalistic attitude toward Egypt.

The Jews enslaved the Canaanites via capture, however, they gave them opportunity to a) leave, b) have a peace treaty, c) fight.

Another friend says:

Some commentators say that only a fifth of the Jewish population was freed from Egypt that is because 80 percent of the Jews assimilated into the Egyptian culture.

And unless your are a neo-nazi, I don’t see any reason in the world to expel Jews from your country. Jews are instructed to respect the laws of the land (a clear Halacha) and abide by it.

I think Jews contribute more to the society when they identify as Jews first and nationality second.

One rabbi opines:

Genesis 47:20-27 indicates the viceroy Joseph bought all the land of Egypt for Pharoah, excluding only two groups: the pagan priestly class and the Israelites. “I have bought you today and your land… Only the land of the priests alone was not Pharoah’s… And Israel dwelt in the land of Egypt, in the land of Goshen, and they held onto it.” The general population was then to be an ownerless lower class with a fifth of their harvest going to the kingdom’s storehouses.

Perhaps Joseph, knowing of the prophecy made to Abraham that his descendants would dwell in a strange land, wanted to insure that the Egyptian masses would not be able to oppress them and may even need them because of their economic power. During the years of famine with this arrangement sustaining the Egyptians, the nation was grateful being enslaved. “You have saved our lives… We will be Pharaoh’s bondmen,” they declared.

However, this preferential treatment in property rights backfired as Exodus 1:9 has the new Pharoah tell his nation, “the people of the children of Israel are too many and too mighty for us.” In fact, Exodus 1:11 has the new slaves building “store-cities, Pithom and Raamses.” 2 Chronicles 32:28 uses the same Hebrew word to describe building of “treasuries for the harvest of corn and wine and oil, and stables for all types of beasts, and folds for sheep.” Now the tables have turned. They who were one of only two owners in Egypt while the rest of the Egyptians were stripped of their property and working in part for the storehouses, have the Jews made slaves to fill the new generation’s storehouses.

Efrem writes:

I think if you learn nothing else about the story of Exodus, except Pharoah seeing the “fifth column”, and enslaving them, you may, in a great effort of giving him benefit of the doubt, allow a thought of him “simply acting” in Egypt’s best interest. Once you learn about him ordering baby boys thrown into the river, you may start suspecting that there may be something else going on in his mind, besides “Egypt’s Best Interests”. When he subjects his entire nation to 10 plagues, just to stop the “fifth column” from leaving the country, you have to be a Pharoah himself, or one of his very loyal friends, to continue to maintain that he was “simply …..”. Finally after Pharoah drowns his entire elite force, trying to chase the “fifth column”, and himself realizes that he was wrong, you will have to be a blogger who is trying to promote some kind of agenda 3000+ yrs later, to suggest that Paroh was asking in Egypt’s best interest.
Not sure why you are bringing up Jewish state here, as I don’t recall anything similar happening there. (maybe there was a plague that I have missed, you tell me)
“Expel the fifth column” doesn’t seem to fit either, as this was exactly what Pharoah refused to do. I mean, you would think, that if he genuinely thought that he had a fifth column, why didn’t he make it easier for everyone, and did exactly that: expel them? Maybe, and I’m just speculating here, he didn’t think that there was a fifth column.
You could also say that it’s relevant to Europe’s situation, if you are going to suggest, that some of the children of Israel were murdering ancient Egyptians for daring to offend the Patriarchs, or that modern day Europe is trying to enslave an entire nation in its borders, but that’s the kind of thing, for which people use terms like “alternate reality” and “parallel universe”.

After the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor, Winston Churchill said: “When we think of the insane ambition and insatiable appetite which have caused this vast and melancholy extension of the war, we can only feel that Hitler’s madness has infected the Japanese mind, and that the root of the evil and its branch must be extirpated together.”

Or we could look at Japan and Germany as acting in their national self-interest just like other nations do.

What is the significance of the mesorah’s lack of interest in what motivates hatred of Jews?

A rabbi tells me: “They take it as an existential reality. Rabbi Shimon bar Yochai called it a halacha – a spiritual law that Esav hates Yakov.”

* What is the state of the Alt Right today? The year 2017 began with giddy optimism that the Alt Right would influence the Trump administration. There’s not much reason to believe that today.

In this recent interview, Jared Taylor says: “We are growing in numbers and influence because the arguments we make are correct.”

“I am more optimistic than I have been at any time since I started white advocacy 25 years ago.”

Millenial Woes: “When I started my channel in January of 2014, there was despair. Now it feels like we are making progress.”

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