The Victory Of The Orthodox Jewish Extremists

In his fourth lecture on the Steipler for Torah in Motion, professor Marc B. Shapiro says: “Why are so many extremist figures leaders in our era? Rav Ahron Kotler, the Steipler, Rav Shach.

“People are looking for extremism. Moderation is not something people are attracted to in this era. Extremist leaders have a way of frightening and silencing others. Rav Ahron Kotler had a strong personality and he was able to dominate the other roshei yeshiva.”

“Rav Ahron Kotler did not achieve significance in his lifetime. When he passed away, there were 200 students in Lakewood. The victory of the Lakewood yeshiva ideology comes in the next generation, beginning in the late 1970s.”

“In the 1960s, you’d say the future was in Yeshiva Torah Vodaas and Chaim Berlin, where they go to college at night. Today these are regarded as second-rate. If you want the major leagues, you want to go to Lakewood or eretz Israel.”

“A gadol is a social construct. The community determines who a gadol is. A gadol doesn’t mean someone who knows a lot. You have to have a position as a rav or a rosh yeshiva. You have to have a following. A gadol is a leader. You need to think he has great piety and great scholarship. You need to have people attracted to you.”

“The Steipler never kissed his grandchildren. Rav Soloveitchik writes that he was never kissed by his father. Never hugged by his father. Rav Soloveitchik carried on this tradition. Rav Soloveitchik never kissed his grandchildren.”

“Torah study above all else led to a dulling of emotions.”

“I have three different stories about gadolim whose relatives died on Shabbos and they refused to cry because it was Shabbos. There’s no mourning on Shabbos. The Brisker Rav had a child die and his wife was crying and he rebuked her.”

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Marvin The Orthodox Menace

My friend Cathy Seipp died five years ago today.

Cathy’s daughter Maia Lazar writes: Marvin could not concentrate on the Rashi script. The cantor was not good that day, and the lighting was very dim. Plus, the woman next to him through the lattice could not stop singing. Marvin did not like that. Marvin had a good day as long as women did not sing, he did not have to drive through Hispanic neighborhoods, and no bums protested against Bush.

…His life goals, jokingly, are to marry a virgin, and father a dozen children. So far, he has not succeeded. Firstly, he is not that observant as most Orthodox Jews are, and secondly, he is reaching forty, and few women younger than 25 are willing to elope with a man that old. In the last year, he has dated two women: a secular masseuse, and a fifty-year-old broad. Neither qualifies.
After each person had exited the synagogue, Marvin found himself alone with the director of the place. “We need to talk,” the scruffy rabbi murmured.
Marvin knew what he meant. “I apologize deeply for lying, and not telling you what happened…” he began to reply.
“You have proved yourself disloyal by doing your business in that field.” The rabbi elaborated, disgusted.
“You have every right to be angered but please allow me to explain.”
“Explain what? Until you’re a person of dignity and understanding, you are not welcome here any further, do you understand?!”
Marvin understood, but he had an appointment at Heebster Lounge that afternoon. He had the juiciest assignment in the “industry.”

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The Dignity Of Work

In his fourth lecture on the Steipler for Torah in Motion, professor Marc B. Shapiro says: “The Talmud says every man must teach his son a profession. The Steipler rejects this. All those passages that speak about the dignity of work and not surviving on charity, these are only stated with reference to someone who needed to make a living. One who could be supported while studying, God forbid that he should stop studying Torah.

“In other words, there is no value to work. There is no dignity to work. It’s something you do if you can’t be supported by someone else.”

“That’s why the haredi world is closed to any kind of trade schools and vocational training. It has been open the last few years, but this has been done in opposition to haredi leadership. The masses have been demanding it.

“You’ll see in 30 years that this will be standard in the haredi world and this will be the new da’as Torah. When Agudath Yisrael writes a new history, they’ll write how the gadolim recognized the necessity of earning a living and therefore they were at the forefront of establishing these schools.

“Just like 30 years from now, no one is going to believe us when we tell them that there were great rabbis who covered up sex abuses and shuffled them from school to school and didn’t believe you have to report this to the police. They’ll be able to read the Agudah history books that talk about how the gadolim were in the forefront. They saw this sexual abuse from the beginning. They saw how dangerous it was. They were at the forefront of insuring that all these people were removed from the yeshivas so they couldn’t harm the children. That will be the da’as Torah in 50 years. That will be Agudah history in 50 years. They won’t tell their readers that it was the masses who revolted against their rabbinic leaders and forced this issue.”

“Haredism as an ideology and a political force, it’s the Steipler [who was most influential].”

Rav Shach simply continued the work of the Steipler.

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He Never Learns Anything From His University of Scranton Students

In his third lecture on the Steipler for Torah in Motion, professor Marc B. Shapiro says: This semester [with T.I.M.] especially I have very learned people.”

“Sitting at the University of Scranton with typical American students, this [Talmudic teaching that you learn the most from your students] never applied to me. I never learn anything [about Jewish subjects] from my students. How could I learn anything? They don’t know anything.”

Marc emails: “Hi, I am happy to see that you are providing my “best lines”, so to speak. By the way, I clarified this point in a later lecture. I meant that I don’t learn anything about Jewish subjects, which is the context of the talmudic passage (and with my TIM students I learn Jewish things from them, which is why I enjoy it so much). With the Scranton students every semester I do learn an important thing or two. If I didn’t teaching wouldn’t be very exciting.”

My father taught college in Australia and in America. He said Americans students were generally terrible. He had to halve his homework load and assignments for them.

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Donald Bradman – The Greatest Sportsman Of All Time

F.M. Alexander regarded Sir Donald as a beautiful example of poise.

According to Wikipedia: “Sir Donald George Bradman, AC (27 August 1908 – 25 February 2001), often referred to as “The Don”, was an Australian cricketer, widely acknowledged as the greatest batsman of all time. Bradman’s career Test batting average of 99.94 is often cited as statistically the greatest achievement by any sportsman in any major sport.”

When Nelson Mandela was released after 27 years in prison, his first question to an Australian visitor was, “Is Sir Donald Bradman still alive?”

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You’ll Swing For That

I’m watching season four of the great Aussie crime drama Underbelly: Razor.

It’s about the underworld in Sydney between 1927 and 1936.

I notice how the crooks keep deciding to stay away from murder because “you’ll swing for that.”

That’s when Australia had the death penalty for murder.

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When The Steipler Became A Holy Man

In his second lecture on the Steipler for Torah in Motion, professor Marc B. Shapiro says: After the Chazon Ish died, people turned to the Steipler with their problems.

“The Steipler begins to assume the role of the tzaddik, the holy man, much like a hasidic rebbe who has clairvoyant powers. The Chazon Ish in his lifetime was never regarded like this. You don’t have Lithuanian gadolim regarded like this in their lifetimes.

“The Steipler’s son (Chaim Kanievsky) has assumed that.

“During his lifetime, the Steipler was treated as a holy man, a man with ruach hakodesh (the divine spirit). He would give brachas (blessings). The Steipler never shied away from this. Presumably his hasidic background came to the fore here. This is what he grew up with.”

“He did not function as a posek (decider of Jewish law). He functioned as a leader.”

“He said that abortion is forbidden except when there’s a danger to the mother’s life.”

The Steipler has negative views of non-Orthodox Jews. He’s different from American haredim who want to bring such Jews closer to Torah.

The Steipler’s disagreements with the anti-Zionists, the Satmar, are over tactics, not over ideology. “We are in exile in the state of Israel.”

The Steipler said that the Yom Kippur war was brought on by the Labor government to boost its election chances.

“The Steipler and Rav Shach all had negative comments about psychologists. They were convinced it was a waste of time. They think that psychologists are all about turning people against religion. It was certainly forbidden to go to a non-religious psychologist.”

“When it comes to doctors, they don’t care. He’s an expert. With psychologists, they’ll be very careful who they send to, as they should. As religious Jews, I don’t think we can go to any psychologist. That’s dangerous.”

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How Does The Haredi World Change?

In his second lecture on the Steipler for Torah in Motion, professor Marc B. Shapiro says: “Any changes are only valid if they are put forth by their authority figures. All the propaganda put out by people like Avi Shafran that we don’t believe in this or that, it’s all nonsense. They believe in what the gadolim tell them. That makes perfect sense, more sense than what the apologists say who try to explain the haredi world. Avi Shafran does not know what the gadolim will say until they say it.”

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Why Is Luke Not Married?

Greg Leake emails: Hi Luke,

On the last Torah Talks at the end you asked, “Why am I not married?”

Obviously, you were bouncing off the obscenity comedy that you were advancing prior to the question. I don’t know whether you actually want to get married or not, but there may be some factors you have not considered.

You will remember that several months ago i was living in the Orthodox jewish community of Dallas. I had a lot of opportunity to observe the species close up.

Your best shot at marrying someone modern Orthodox would be a divorcee. In my neighborhood there was quite a number of middle aged modern Orthodox women who were divorced. These ladies were highly motivated to find another husband. In fact, they were willing to step outside the strict protocol of orthodoxy if it meant the possibility of some good match-up.

Some would privately confide that they were willing to marry a goy if a really suitable candidate were available.

And here we find your catch-22, Luke.

these divorcees explained that there was a certain security for them in the Orthodox community. Their rabbis would have mobilized resources of whatever variety if it meant protecting them from some set of circumstances that were threatening.

As a consequence the Jewish community operated as sort of a de facto family. And since this family had a very rigidly defined set of criteria they were very limited when it came to presenting a potential partner to the community. Obviously they weren’t going to stroll into the synagogue unless the man would be met with approval. Marrying up was the best possibility. And this was somewhat like a girl not wanting to bring some man home to her family unless she felt the family would approve. And the neighborhood I was in would mean that the guy would have to be pretty successful and respectable.

Now some of these same women would have been willing to make a match with a suitable goy.

However, a marriage with a goy would mean that they had to leave the Jewish community with its potential support. Therefore, for them to jump ship, the goy would need to have a lot going for him. The goy would also have to be very successful and probably respectable, because if they were going to trade their Jewish credentials for a match with a goy, then they had to be certain that the new match would not diminish safety and security, but in fact increase it.

So, Luke, the catch-22 for you is that when you crossed the Orthodox line you instantly diminished your possibilities of an Orthodox Jewish girl because of the fact that you are a convert and because of your unsavory past and reputation. Now had you been simply a convert who was maybe the respectable president of a bank or something, you might have fallen into a different category. However, since the Jewish girl had already been ingratiated into Jewish society before you ever converted, she understands full well the social consequences with her family and her community if she were to hook up with someone who had these strikes against them. It’s not so much that a jewish girl might not like you or be attracted to you; but the social penalty for getting together with you could be acute.

Actually if you were a very successful goy or maybe a Conservative Jew, some of the divorcees in modern Orthodox might see you as a real candidate since after they have had kids and divorced it’s a whole different ballgame. The problem there is that they would be turning in their Jewish credentials for someone who doesn’t offer security along with excitement and romance.

The irony is that had you not crossed over to the Orthodox realm, you probably would be married already. There are millions of women who would be attracted to you outside of the Orthodox Jewish world. You’re a nice-looking, intelligent guy with a good sense of humor, and were you just an ordinary bloke you would have no trouble getting together with the sheilas.

Modern Orthodox has built in an automatic catch-22 for you, and it is one that may offer an obstacle too large to overcome. A girl unconcerned about modern orthodoxy who has a great interest in the Alexander Technique could offer a level of compatibility without the catch-22 looming over your head like the sword of Damocles.

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Is Religion Just About Sex and Guns?

Rabbi Yosef Kanefsky writes: “When a candidate runs as a devoutly religious person, what kinds of public positions does he or she take? In the political contest playing out in presently, the foreign policy positions of the devoutly religious are hawkish, and their social policy positions are conservative. The devoutly religious politician is anti-abortion, anti-contraception, and anti-feminism. The same general pattern (with shades of difference) holds true among devoutly religious politicians in many other countries, regardless of which one of the world’s major religions is being practiced there.”

…”I am a devoutly religious person. And I believe that our deepest religious values should inform our political views. And I am befuddled and disturbed by the fact that our leaders who wear their religion on their sleeves, exhaust their passions on our military challenges abroad and birth-control pills at home. The world awaits the expression of America’s deep historical religious passions for justice, compassion, and peace for all humankind.”

I don’t like criticizing Rabbi Kanefsky on my blog because I like the man and I like his shul.

Still, he has chosen to go public once again with an absurdly contemptuous dismissal of those to his right. Rabbi Kanefsky paints those who differ with him as morons (obsessed with birth-control pills, etc), but fails to give any specific examples to back up his claims.

I can’t think of any right-of-center politician in the world who’s obsessed with birth-control pills.

The rabbi is plainly taking aim once again at Rick Santorum but Rick Santorum has said nothing about using government to hinder women’s access to birth-control pills and the like. The rabbi’s attack completely lacks factual foundation.

The rabbi writes: “The devoutly religious politician is anti-abortion, anti-contraception, and anti-feminism.”

The rabbi provides no examples to back up his charges. Ron Paul is devoutly religious and yet he does not align with the rabbi’s generalizations.

The rabbi writes: “The same general pattern (with shades of difference) holds true among devoutly religious politicians in many other countries, regardless of which one of the world’s major religions is being practiced there.”

Protestant politicians have no problem with the use of birth control. Non-Orthodox Jewish politicians have no problem with the use of birth control.

India has many devout Hindu politicians. According to Wikipedia: “There is no ban on birth control in Hinduism.”

Different religions and different denominations within religions have completely different views on birth control and the politicians who identify with these various religions have equally different views. There is no right-wing view on birth control.

Nobody can take Rabbi Kanefsky seriously on any matter because he repeatedly publishes dismissive and false generalizations about those with whom he disagrees.

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