Luke Ford

How about Islam? It seems like that unites most of the terrorists in the West.

Comments to Steve Sailer:

* We need additional million dollar studies on terrorist activities and who are prone to join such movements. I think we should invite more Islamic refugees into the U.S. so that we can observe how they cluster together, become angry in their new surroundings and then try out the doctrines with which they’ve been inculcated.

So, first, bring in more refugees and immigrants from totally alien Muslim societies.
Second, hire progressive thinking-thinkers to think up a thoughtful survey to administer to thoughtless Muslims who still think they’re in their homeland, and collate the results.
Third, do not color the results with observable facts, but hypothesize ad infinitum, until the chickens come home to roost.
Fourth, pronounce the results as being inconclusive, and suggest a new study to build on the one just completed.
Fifth, wash and repeat.
Sixth, peat and repeat.

* I loathe the PC media and culture, nor do I like the idea of mass immigration from the Muslim world. Having said that, I do think it is a reasonable question to ask why within the Muslim world some people decide to become suicide bombers/killers and others do not.

* Ayman al-Zawahiri is a physician. Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi has a Ph.D. Mohammed Atta studied engineering. Usama bin-Laden was well-educated and took the scholarly title of “sheikh.” These are not “weak-minded” people.

As far as Christianity being “equally as pathetic” as Islam, there is a significant difference between Christianity and Islam, namely, that founder of Islam was a military and political figure who killed his opponents, while the founder of Christianity was explicitly apolitical and non-violent. Therefore, the serious, dedicated student of Mohamed would likely conclude that killing infidels and conquering territory is his religious duty, while the serious, dedicated student of Jesus cannot properly reach that same conclusion.

The “weak-minded” are the faux sophisticates in the secular West, who are equally contemptuous of all religions and therefore fail to understand the profound differences between them.

* The only sufficient condition to be a suicide bomber / killer is

1) Belief in the literal truth of the Koran, and of the rewards in paradise for killing infidels

Beyond that, it just comes down to who has the motivation and the means.

Clearly the fact that the ranks of Islamic suicide terrorists are stuffed with popular middle class and upper middle class people with bright futures (Tsarnayevs, the Glasgow airport bombing doctors, San Bernardino, the 9/11 guys with masters degrees, the underpants bomber whose father was a minister, etc) tells us that the standard left wing explanations – poverty, racism, and so on – play no role.

* Common denominator today is if they are a devout follower of Islam, the more devout the greater the chances of them going “lets kill the infidels”.

The thing is the exhortations to kill us unbelievers are everywhere in serious Muslim literature from the Koran, to the very popular “The Reliance of the Traveler” to more innocuous Sufi texts like “The Alchemy of Happiness” that urges raids and killing of infidels. The Sunni Muslim center of theological thought in Cairo Al Azar University backstops all of it and won’t condemn ISIS as being un-Islamic. Which should be warning enough.

Look what happened in Iraq when Bush turned over the country to mainline Shia and Sunni elements – the first thing they did was butcher Christians, Sufis, Yadzis, emo’s, gays, liquor store owners, women who walked alone, etc. Those religious thugs were the ones we sacrificed 4000 of our men for and countless others maimed.

Or what happened in Egypt when Hillary and company kicked out Mubarack and replaced them with MB types.

This should have warned a bunch of arrogant and ignorant Westerner intellectuals and politicians what the hell they were dealing with. It seems to be worse as you go to the right of the bell curve for some odd reason.

It’ all made worse given who is running the mosques in the West – Saudi trained imans that usually preach the most vile version of Islam. usually Salafism. Other mosques like the one in San Bernadino preached a noxious variant out of Pakistan(Deobandis).

Here’s something the West could do. Monitor the mosques and what is preached and by whom and what sort of literature do they peddle. We should expell any that preach jihad and promote Sharia law.

As far as the NYT they are just spewing idiocy like the rest of the Western intellectual elite that has lied to itself to the point that they made themselves morally and intellectually bankrupt.

* Terrorist attacks are nasty and spectacular, but don’t really take many lives in the west.

It’s sensible to work out what radicalizes young Muslim men to become terrorists because several western countries, including the U.S., have substantial Muslim populations.

Further, it’s an interesting psychological question. Sometimes there is a really destructive social trend or movement, and it captures a whole generation or two. Right now, there is such a movement among young Muslims in a lot of the world. This isn’t some thousand year old clash of cultures–a century ago, the future of the Muslim world looked to be secular socialist dictatorships, and the scary terrorist threat was European kids being caught up anarchist or socialist of facsist movements. A century from now, Islamic fundamentalist terror will be a thing of the past, and some new horror will be drawing the people with low resistance in.

* I remember that from the 1970s — Muslim terrorists back then were disproportionately engineering grads.

* It’s like a hostage tape.

NYT: “We have been studying terrorism for decades. There’s no clear motive behind scores of atrocities. We can’t find a common thread among the perpetrators. Experts agree, there just doesn’t seem to be an answer. We must keep funding research. We must get to the bottom of this.”

NYT (blinking in Morse code): “Disregard words. Have gun pointed at me. It’s MUSLIMS, repeat, MUSLIMS.”

(Apply same decoding technique to NYT articles on the Stubborn Achievement Gap.)

* A century from now Islamic fundamentalism will be so normal and accepted it will be on TV like The Sopranos (which was after a century of Italian/Sicilian immigration): continuous violence and corruption proportional to their percentage in the population.

At current rates of Muslim settlement, a century from now, Muslims will be so numerous that de facto Sharia law will exist in many if not most areas of the West. There will be no “fundamentalism” only Sharia law. Sharia is not racist or fundamentalist, it is the only law that Muslims can be persuaded to obey. It is the only law that resonates in their hearts. Further, it is economical: losing a hand for theft right on the spot sans wasteful judges and juries is very efficient. Like lynching.

The real problem for Europe is the speed of the demographic transformation. Education requires dispersal and time–generations of time. Even if there was a way to educate/civilize the Muslim hordes, their battalions of conquering males are now arriving so fast that white people will have to drop every civilization-building and sustaining activity in order to feed, clothe, house, medicate and police Muslims. Thus, there is no time for education to work its magic.

Further, they cannot be dispersed. They naturally gather in massive Muslim colonies like Malmo and Molenbeek. A German think tank has estimated that between 1.8M and 6.4M Muslims/Africans will arrive in 2016 alone. This will boost the breeding/fighting age male population in Germany by 30-80%. Jobless Muslim males will be fighting and fscking like crazy all over Germany.

In one sense you are right. Perhaps welcoming them and exerting a gentle educational influence will work. If the West had surrendered to the German invasions in WWI and relied on the gentle education of the invaders to work its magic, doubtless Europe would now be at peace. Germanic, but peaceful.

Perhaps this educational approach will work in the 21st century with the millions of Muslim invaders. In a century Germany will be Muslim+dhimmi, but peaceful. Like Spain in the Golden Age of Muslim domination; a time in which the arts and philosophy flowered.

More likely Europe will follow the path it did from 1944-1950 after WWII and do to the Muslims what it did to German ethnics: mass expulsion/rape/murder of Muslims–even quite peaceful Muslims–the way it expelled/raped/murdered nice, friendly, peaceful German ethnics all across Europe. Doctors, lawyers, farmers, poets, philosophers, veterinarians, shopkeepers, and tradesmen. They all had to go.

And many (if not most) of those German ethnics were expelled from towns and villages they wrested from the wilderness and built 200-800 years before. After a mere 40 years of Muslim colonization in Europe, mass Muslim expulsion should be no problem.

* About 3-4 years after 9/11 I was dating a nice, artsy girl – at worst only slightly leftist, so far as I could tell, but pretty much apolitical. I was already into guys like Mark Steyn at the time, and pretty sure I had already bought copy of “Camp of the Saints.”

One night not long after some some terrorist attack or another – and perhaps ever so slightly drunk – I made my opinion about Muslim immigration very, very clear. She dropped her jaw like I had just suggested genocide or something. It was eye opening. At no point would she accept the possibility that banning Muslim immigration was an acceptable thing. She’d sooner see millions of people die due to terrorism than judge people based on whatever group they belonged to. Even telling her that we were already basically discriminating among immigrants (given numerical restrictions) wasn’t enough to persuade her.

There is something in the leftist brain that rebels against rational decision making – at least when it doesn’t relate directly to their own self-interest. They have been so thoroughly brainwashed by the multicult that changing their minds on the matter would be all but impossible. They’d sooner sacrifice every single freedom we have than commit the crime of “discrimination.”

That argument was a sign – two signs, actually. One, to end that relationship post haste. Two, an understanding of how nearly impossible it would be to ever convince a majority of Americans or Europeans away from their brainwashed opposition to “discrimination.” Election outcomes in Europe seem to prove my point. “Right wing” political parties are rising, but at most they only get about 20-30% of the vote. The rest of the people in those countries would sooner commit suicide than dare to do anything ever so slightly racist.

Our civilization is on the verge of extinction, and there is not a damn thing the majority is willing to do about it. The number of victims of terrorism will have to climb a hundredfold before the majority ever comes close to accepting the obvious.

* “Muslim” is not the word you’re looking for. Iranians and Turks do not become terrorists. The common thread among those two groups of Muslims is probably higher IQ relative to other Muslims, and certainly the fact that Turks and Persians were never colonized. Turkey is a 21st century success story even compared to “Christian” Latin America or most of the Balkans, Iran has suffered under the Mullahs but still has a strong sense of its own cultural worth and its history. Iran is like China in the early 1980s – shitty now but there is a lot of optimism about the future. North Africans on the other hand come from shit-hole countries that for centuries were famous mainly for piracy, were treated like shit by French colonists and have failed resoundingly at developing working models of government since independence. Terrorism seems to spring up when the cognitive dissonance between the status supposedly conferred on you by your membership in the notionally triumphant Islamic community and the reality that your ethnic group are mostly losers becomes untenable.