I listen to a lot of 12-Step phone meetings and if everyone isn’t following the rules and keeping themselves muted when not sharing, then it ruins the experience for everyone. You often hear in the background people typing and banging around in the kitchen and doing other routine tasks and it just makes you feel like tuning out of the meeting.
On the road, one lousy driver can tie up traffic for thousands of people. One dumb move will cost thousands of hours for productive citizens.
An Australian study found that people with an IQ of 80-85 had twice as many fatal car accident as people with IQs above 105. I wish we could limit driver’s licenses to people with IQs above 100.
One toxic person (such as a Terrell Owens) can ruin a workplace, a meeting, a synagogue, a church, a club, a sports team. That’s why we need freedom of association. Different peoples have different norms. If a group doesn’t want to include Jews or blacks or homosexuals or communists or trannies, they should be allowed that choice.
REPORT: Hillary Clinton and Huma Abedin have marked a relationship milestone, according to the Washington Post: they’ve been together for 20 years.
“Few people know this, but Huma Abedin and Hillary Clinton celebrated their professional anniversary in September: it’s been 20 years since the two first started working side-by-side,” the paper reports.
They have a remarkably personal and close relationship.
Among Hillary Clinton’s released emails was one between the two, with Abedin writing, “Checked on you but you were sleeping.”
Clinton later responded, “I’m up now so come when you are able. Just knock on the door to the bedroom if it’s closed.”
The pair appeared at the New York City Pride Parade earlier this year.
Bill Clinton was nowhere to be found.
The Post notes Abedin’s almost fan-like admiration for Clinton.
During an interview with the “Call Your Girlfriend” podcast, Abedin recalled first seeing her boss:
“You know these things that happen in your life that just stick? That she walked by and she shook my hand and our eyes connected and I just remember having this moment where I thought, ‘Wow, this is amazing.’ … She would probably be so annoyed that I say this, but I remember thinking, ‘Oh my god, she’s so beautiful and she’s so little!’”
If the pair make it to the White House, Abedin says she would prefer to stay in the shadows.
“I prefer to be behind-the-scenes and stay behind-the-scenes,” she told the podcast.
“It does take a village to support Hillary Clinton. I am part of that village … I help keep the trains moving on time.”
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BLOOD AT THE ROOT
A Racial Cleansing in America
By Patrick Phillips
Illustrated. 302 pp. W.W. Norton & Company. $26.95.
Patrick Phillips’s book, at its core, is about the lies told over and over again until they become the truth. Lies crafted to exonerate white residents, who deployed terror, lynching and the law to racially cleanse all black people from Forsyth County, Ga. Lies proffered to explain why, despite the civil rights movement and the area’s proximity to Atlanta, the county remained virtually all-white into the 1990s. “Blood at the Root,” whose title is taken from a stanza of “Strange Fruit,” the hauntingly painful song about lynching, is no redemption tale. By the end, it is clear that the white supremacy responsible for killing black bodies and stealing land and property remains, to this day, unbowed and unrepentant…
He takes us back to the moment in 1912 when a young white woman named Mae Crow is found in a ditch, bludgeoned and raped. Forsyth County’s whites immediately assumed that the perpetrators had to be black. Who else would do something so savage?
…“Blood at the Root” thus meticulously and elegantly reveals the power of white supremacy in its many guises — be it active, complicit or complacent; rural or suburban — to distort and destroy, not only lives and accomplishments, but historical memory, the law and basic human civility.
What are lessons from this book that we can all apply to our lives today?
During the early 21st century, Forsyth County has been one of the fastest-growing areas in the United States in terms of percentage of growth. The population growth was stimulated by the county’s proximity to Atlanta and its appeal as a commuter base for people working in the Atlanta area. The influx of high-earning professionals has increased the average income dramatically; in 2008 Forbes ranked the county as the 13th-wealthiest in the United States in terms of median household income…
The county population of about 10,000 was 90 percent majority white in the early 20th century, and residents still depended on agriculture. Its more than 1,000 “blacks” included 440 persons classified as mixed race on the census, indicating a continuing history of racial mixing.
Racial tensions became inflamed following two separate incidents in September 1912 in which black men were alleged to have raped white women. In the first case, a black preacher was assaulted by whites for suggesting the alleged victim may have been having a consensual relationship with a black man. The Sheriff gained support from the governor, who sent more than 20 National Guard troops to keep peace. The suspects in the first case were never tried, for lack of evidence.
In the second case, one of five black suspects was lynched by a mob of 4,000 who stormed the Cumming jail after arrests, shot him, and hanged his body on the town square. The woman rape victim died two weeks after being attacked. Charges against two of the four persons left in the second case were dropped after a plea bargain. But two young black men under 18 were quickly convicted by all-white juries and executed by hanging. Whites afterward harassed and intimidated blacks in Forsyth and neighboring counties, forcing most of them out of the region within weeks. By the late 20th century, residents were still almost all white.
During the 1950s, with the introduction of the poultry industry, the county had steady economic growth but was still all white and mostly rural. Georgia State Route 400 opened in 1971 and was eventually extended through the county and northward; it stimulated population growth as the county became a bedroom community for people working in Atlanta, which had expanding work opportunities.
By 1980, the county population was 27,500, growing to 40,000 in 1987. While some blacks worked in the county in new industries, none lived there. The county gained more than 30 new industries from 1980 and unemployment was low. Such growth resulted in the median income, formerly low, “rising faster than in any other county in Georgia.”[9] A small civil rights march in the county seat of Cumming in January 1987 was attacked by people throwing rocks, dirt and bottles. A week later another, much larger march took place, with civil rights activists going from Atlanta to Cumming protected by police and National Guard, and thousands of protesters joining a counter-demonstration. Local people said conditions had been improving for minorities, but whites appeared to be reacting out of fear.[9]
Forsyth County continued to be developed for subdivisions, industry and related businesses. In 2008 it had been ranked among the top ten fastest-growing counties of the United States for several years. Many new subdivisions have been constructed, several around top-quality golf courses. The county’s proximity to Atlanta and the Blue Ridge mountains, and bordering 37,000-acre (150 km2) Lake Sidney Lanier, has attracted many new residents. More than 60% of the current population either lived elsewhere in 1987 or had not yet been born.
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I doubt you would find an MSM headline about people calling out Jews for anti-Gentile prejudice or leftists for anti-white prejudice.
This headline and article just take it for granted that Trump commits the gigantic moral sins of bigotry and racism. Of course, in Christianity and Judaism, there is no such as sin as “racism” or “bigotry.” If these were sins, you would expect to find them condemned in the Bible or in the teachings of prominent religious thinkers down through the ages. Instead, we only find these sins getting noted and condemned beginning in the 1960s (with a few invocations going back to the 1920s).
A group of more than 75 evangelical leaders have declared that despite poll numbers showing evangelical support for Donald Trump, they do not.
The list, posted Thursday on a change.org petition, includes a multiracial group of African Americans, Asians, Hispanics, Native Americans and whites.
“We cannot ignore this bigotry, set it aside, just focus on other issues, or forget the things Mr. Trump has consistently said and done,” the declaration reads. “No matter what other issues we also care about, we have to make it publicly clear that Mr. Trump’s racial and religious bigotry and treatment of women is morally unacceptable to us as evangelical Christians.”
The authors make clear that this denouncement of Trump is not a show of support for Hillary Clinton.
But they point to what they call the rise of white nationalism, “xenophobic appeals to religious intolerance” and demonizing of minority groups — immigrants, Mexicans and Muslims — as examples of why they refuse to support the Republican nominee. This could throw into question Trump’s lockdown of the evangelical vote.
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Build institutions? Win elections and popular support?
I thought AmNats of white or any variety are supposed to complain about the ADL and call people cucks. Who knew that the boring, decades-long business of building institutions and winning popular support on the issues was even an option?
And that first line item? Do the hard work of joining the system, making compromises and enemies, but also allies and incremental process? I thought that all you need to create change is post rare pepes on reddit!
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Express: A report from the European Commission against Racism and Intolerance (ECRI) found there was an increase in hate speech and racist violence in the UK from 2009 to March 2016.
Blaming the press, ECRI Chair Christian Ahlund, said: “It is no coincidence that racist violence is on the rise in the UK at the same time as we see worrying examples of intolerance and hate speech in the newspapers, online and even among politicians.”
The report makes a whopping 23 recommendations to Theresa May’s Government for changes to criminal law, the freedom of the press, crime reporting and equality law.
And despite the report not analysing coverage of the historic Brexit vote, Mr Ahlund saw fit to comment on the UK’s decision to leave the EU.
In a sweeping statement, he said: “The Brexit referendum seems to have led to a further rise in ‘anti-foreigner’ sentiment, making it even more important that the British authorities take the steps outlined in our report as a matter of priority.”
The report lays into the British press and urges the government to “give more rigorous training” to reporters.
In the 83-page report, the Commission said: “ECRI considers that, in light of the fact that Muslims are increasingly under the spotlight as a result of recent ISIS-related terrorist acts around the world, fuelling prejudice against Muslims shows a reckless disregard, not only for the dignit
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* Strategy tip, gay men always come off as queeny when they interrupt.
* The moderator asks Kaine a question and lets him talk about anything he wants. She asks Pence a question, but interrupts him to make sure he is answering what she asks. Additionally she lets Kaine interrupt Pence continuously. It’s like two on one. I hope the low info voters can see this.
* Yes Kaine is very aggressive, even shrill, more of an attack dog. Pence is far more likable, coming across as folksy. He’s also significantly better looking. Kaine’s LSAT score was likely much better than Pence’s. He’s the smart verbally acute nerd, like Ted Cruz in that respect. So far, I bet Pence is connecting more with the undecided voters.
* The moderator is biased, lets Kaine interrupt, but that’s okay because Kaine does not look like someone you want to be president. They like to say Trump doesn’t have the temperment, Kaine looked like a volcano erupting/interrupting.
This is the first time I’ve really listened to Pence and he did great. He was prepared, he didn’t take bait and gave good information to the audience.
* God, this female moderator is a WORLD CLASS LOSER! Can you imagine if she was a teacher in a school? or a cop on the beat? or a soldier in the US army? She can’t do shit tonight. The MSM needs to be flogged big time for setting her up to be such a laughing stock! What a shit show this is tonight. Pence is dignifies and Kaine is fracking psychotic!
* Pence ran the table.
I knew he was good. But I had no idea he was this good. Pence CRUSHED Kaine. Kaine came across as the shrill minion of a shrill candidate. Pence demonstrated poise, confidence and passion. Pence – game, set, match.
* Pence’ demeanor, knowledge, and polite manner made him the winner far and away. Kaine had a bunch of canned, memorized lines.
Then too, remember: tv is a visual and auditory medium and Pence looked composed and sounded great while Kaine caused a lot of cognitive dissonance with his arched eyebrow, weird smile coupled with attacks. Kaine looked like a clown. He’s not an attractive man at all.
Who’d you like to be your big brother, your dad, your uncle, your boss? Your husband. Kaine or Pence.
Easy answer.
* Thought it was worth noting that, just as Pence described the Clinton crime foundation, and was describing the specifics of the corrupt practices of Secretary Clinton in office, that NBC chose to put up a graphic with a paragraph of text on it to distract the viewer.
* Trump should have run his whole campaign on one simple message: stop letting in so many low quality immigrants. He had the megaphone, why didn’t he use it and show the absurdity of the Davos view on immigration. This campaign lasted like 15 months, he never really attempted to make a sustained case against mass low quality immigration. I think he could have pulled it off with the help of Stephen Miller. Too bad; Adios America!
* Great job by Pence tonight, looked great, sounded great, came across as very likable and unflappable. I really hope Trump learns from him. This is how you do it. Bat away or ignore the attacks, don’t lose your cool, speak in complete sentences, don’t get bogged down in the trenches. Maybe this is wishful thinking, but I think we will see a more Pence-like Trump in the next debate.
Kaine came across as gay, rehearsed, overly aggressive, shrill, and overall very unlikable.
* Pence won. He is excellent.
Trump made a good choice. Further proof that he knows what he is doing, and that schmoes like me do not. (I complained about his choice when he made it. I now eat my words.)
* Me too. I thought Pence was a bad VP choice, and still think either Coulter or Sessions or Giuliani would have been better, but Pence has proven himself thus far to be a good addition/follower.
I just worry about TPTB taking out Trump and installing Cuck Pence. Pence follows orders well, so his boss needs to be Trump and not Soros.
Anyway, the Pence performance showed a lot of people that Trump’s administration won’t be impulsive showmanship/braggadocio without a plan, but an good, knowledgeable;e organization with strongman showman as the leader. In other words, just like Trump’s mega-successful business empire.
MAGA, brothers!
* I believe we are witnessing the beginning of a paradigm shift in the way the American electorate goes about vesting authority in its chosen leader.
I know all of us here at iSteve are familiar with the historical anecdote that was the Nixon-Kennedy presidential debate, and how those who heard the debate on radio thought that Nixon won while those who saw it on TV thought that Kennedy won. Kennedy went on to win the election, and the debate (which was the first televised debate of its kid, if I recall correctly) was held to signal the birth of the television age. I was no longer enough to simply argue with your opponent. If you wanted to succeed in the new age, you had to succeed especially with age’s characteristic media.
Something similar could be seen happening tonight. Many who watched the Pence-Kaine debate in the heat of the moment will immediately conclude that Kaine won. His terrier-like demeanor and full-auto talking points seemed to succeed on a superficial level. But that, however, is only according to the old paradigm. The last paradigm shift occurred between auditory and visual media. The basis of the current paradigm shift is time.
To anyone who thinks that Pence did poorly tonight, I would make the suggestion to chill out, give it some time, and then watch the entire debate again in a few days. In fact, you can also do that with the first Trump-Clinton debate, which saw Trump’s performance widely panned. I guarantee that you will see an entirely different debate and an entirely different Trump, one in which he emerges as the clear victor.
The Hillary campaign has shown itself to be ruthlessly efficient when it comes to controlling the narrative, but that basically amounts to controlling the room, to managing expectations and responses in the present. But this election is no longer about how people feel in the present. The electorate is wriggling out of the narrative and tuning out the megaphone. They are casting their eyes about hoping to alight on something that isn’t the present. Like all hubristic regimes, the Clinton machine has become a victim of its own solipsism. It can no longer perceive the fact that it isn’t loved and admired but only tolerated, and that only for so long as no alternative appears.
Well that alternative has appeared in the person of Donald J. Trump. The only way that Clinton and Kaine can still control the room is by telling such obvious lies that they wouldn’t stand up at all under critical scrutiny. That scrutiny takes a process of time to eventuate—it is not a momentary thing—but it is eventuating and people are trusting it.They are looking to the analysis and the quiet, stubborn facts more than to the media megaphone. This si the paradigm shift.
And that is why, when Trump/Pence goes on to win this election by a handy margin, the media will be utterly flabbergasted at how such a thing could have happened. The age is changing. TV is no longer the dominant medium, and narrative control is no longer the political skill par excellence. What will take their place is the rigorous rule of idea-less fact-men, of which Donald Trump is a herald.
* Pence has to for PR purposes. Look there never will be a open and honest discussion on Russia in the American MSM. They simply won’t allow it. Any pol who tries to will be labeled a fool and threat.
Look ever since Putin took back the Crimea every MSM outlet has been demonizing Russia. Every computer hack is blamed on the Russians, every blow up in Syria is blamed on the Russians.
I only saw this level of agit prop by our MSM twice before – prior to Operation Desert Storm and the invasion in 2003.
All that’s missing is a forward deployment of 4-5 Army divisions in Poland. Which will probably happen under Hillary.
* The tweet of the night goes to Trump:
“@Jnelson52722: @realDonaldTrump @Susiesentinel Kaine looks like an evil crook out of the Batman movies”
* Nate Silver published a piece entitled, “No, the polls aren’t biased,” or something like that. He did a good job of making sound arguments, while glossing over relevant areas where his argument was weak. E.g., he basically waved away the idea that pollsters could be fudging their polls, because their livelihood depends on delivering accurate forecasting. He spent a little more time than I did writing that sentence, but not much. Two questions naturally arise. First, how is “accuracy” determined? Something tells me it’s determined by how accurate the polls are a short time before the election, not how accurate they are throughout the campaign. If so, that would leave pollsters pretty much the entire time to use their polls as propaganda without regard to their accuracy, as tools to manipulate the outcome (all evidence shows that people tend to vote for who they think will win), only to right the ship just before the election, so as to deliver “accurate forecasting.” Second, the media has made it absurdly plain that they value their credibility far less than they do their ability to manipulate the outcome in favor of Illary, despite the fact that their livelihood ostensibly depends on their credibility. They have obviously decided that Trumpenfuhrer gives them a pass, “just this once”; what makes pollsters any different.
* Pence is much more handsome and masculine. This doesn’t lend itself to feminine activities like studying. I would say Trump has the same problem. Bookishness and manly men don’t go together. Manly men learn by doing or doing and then checking books to figure out details. Trump clearly has a very high IQ and is able to deal with complexities very few people could handle. But you could never imagine him sitting down with a novel or some trendy non-fiction. It is hard from a man to quote Harold Bloom or make reference to a novel he’s recently read and still come across as masculine. It unmanly.
* Trump being an egomaniac is definitely a double edged sword. Only someone with as big an ego as Trump could pull off the unconventional campaign he has run and would be fine with being considered the modern Hitler for espousing views on immigration that are the norm in every non-white country (as well as Eastern European white ones). At the same time, his ego drives him to talk too much about himself, get stuck in too many low level fights and to not prepare.
* It’s not hard to get Trump talking about his life instead of the issues.
* Hillary isn’t running a tight ship at all. She is running a leaky old Liberty ship, but the media is providing massive convoy escort to get her over the finish line. She campaigns once in a blue moon to a tiny, handpicked crowd, then takes a couple days off. She is only getting away with this because of the massive support being provided by the MSM. They’ve already admitted collaborating with her on the Miss Universe story.
* The firefox add-on VideoDownloadHelper will allow you to download the video, then reupload it if the original gets taken down. Don’t worry, youtube doesn’t do anything to your account if you just have a single video taken down.
If youtube gets really aggro taking it down, then there are various grey-market free video hosting sites, some of which are run by Kim Dotcom. Then there is liveleak.
In other words, the video is not going to disappear.
Kim is half-Finnish, and an example of how Finns and possibly Estonians are the only ethnic group as good at computer programming as the Ashkenazi.
Comment: “Haaretz ran this interesting story back in 2003 about the genesis of the Iraq War. Suffice it to say no respectable journalist in the US could have run this without ruining their career.”
Haaretz: The war in Iraq was conceived by 25 neoconservative intellectuals, most of them Jewish, who are pushing President Bush to change the course of history. Two of them, journalists William Kristol and Charles Krauthammer, say it’s possible. But another journalist, Thomas Friedman (not part of the group), is skeptical
1. The doctrine
WASHINGTON – At the conclusion of its second week, the war to liberate Iraq wasn’t looking good. Not even in Washington. The assumption of a swift collapse of the Saddam Hussein regime had itself collapsed. The presupposition that the Iraqi dictatorship would crumble as soon as mighty America entered the country proved unfounded. The Shi’ites didn’t rise up, the Sunnis fought fiercely. Iraqi guerrilla warfare found the American generals unprepared and endangered their overextended supply lines. Nevertheless, 70 percent of the American people continued to support the war; 60 percent thought victory was certain; 74 percent expressed confidence in President George W. Bush.
Washington is a small city. It’s a place of human dimensions. A kind of small town that happens to run an empire. A small town of government officials and members of Congress and personnel of research institutes and journalists who pretty well all know one another. Everyone is busy intriguing against everyone else; and everyone gossips about everyone else.
In the course of the past year, a new belief has emerged in the town: the belief in war against Iraq. That ardent faith was disseminated by a small group of 25 or 30 neoconservatives, almost all of them Jewish, almost all of them intellectuals (a partial list: Richard Perle, Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas Feith, William Kristol, Eliot Abrams, Charles Krauthammer), people who are mutual friends and cultivate one another and are convinced that political ideas are a major driving force of history. They believe that the right political idea entails a fusion of morality and force, human rights and grit. The philosophical underpinnings of the Washington neoconservatives are the writings of Machiavelli, Hobbes and Edmund Burke. They also admire Winston Churchill and the policy pursued by Ronald Reagan. They tend to read reality in terms of the failure of the 1930s (Munich) versus the success of the 1980s (the fall of the Berlin Wall).
Are they wrong? Have they committed an act of folly in leading Washington to Baghdad? They don’t think so. They continue to cling to their belief. They are still pretending that everything is more or less fine. That things will work out. Occasionally, though, they seem to break out in a cold sweat. This is no longer an academic exercise, one of them says, we are responsible for what is happening. The ideas we put forward are now affecting the lives of millions of people. So there are moments when you’re scared. You say, Hell, we came to help, but maybe we made a mistake.
2. William Kristol
Has America bitten off more than it can chew? Bill Kristol says no. True, the press is very negative, but when you examine the facts in the field you see that there is no terrorism, no mass destruction, no attacks on Israel. The oil fields in the south have been saved, air control has been achieved, American forces are deployed 50 miles from Baghdad. So, even if mistakes were made here and there, they are not serious. America is big enough to handle that. Kristol hasn’t the slightest doubt that in the end, General Tommy Franks will achieve his goals. The 4th Cavalry Division will soon enter the fray, and another division is on its way from Texas. So it’s possible that instead of an elegant war with 60 killed in two weeks it will be a less elegant affair with a thousand killed in two months, but nevertheless Bill Kristol has no doubt at all that the Iraq Liberation War is a just war, an obligatory war.
Kristol is pleasant-looking, of average height, in his late forties. In the past 18 months he has used his position as editor of the right-wing Weekly Standard and his status as one of the leaders of the neoconservative circle in Washington to induce the White House to do battle against Saddam Hussein. Because Kristol is believed to exercise considerable influence on the president, Vice President Richard Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, he is also perceived as having been instrumental in getting Washington to launch this all-out campaign against Baghdad. Sitting behind the stacks of books that cover his desk at the offices of the Weekly Standard in Northwest Washington, he tries to convince me that he is not worried. It is simply inconceivable to him that America will not win. In that event, the consequences would be catastrophic. No one wants to think seriously about that possibility.
What is the war about? I ask. Kristol replies that at one level it is the war that George Bush is talking about: a war against a brutal regime that has in its possession weapons of mass destruction. But at a deeper level it is a greater war, for the shaping of a new Middle East. It is a war that is intended to change the political culture of the entire region. Because what happened on September 11, 2001, Kristol says, is that the Americans looked around and saw that the world is not what they thought it was. The world is a dangerous place. Therefore the Americans looked for a doctrine that would enable them to cope with this dangerous world. And the only doctrine they found was the neoconservative one.
That doctrine maintains that the problem with the Middle East is the absence of democracy and of freedom. It follows that the only way to block people like Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden is to disseminate democracy and freedom. To change radically the cultural and political dynamics that creates such people. And the way to fight the chaos is to create a new world order that will be based on freedom and human rights – and to be ready to use force in order to consolidate this new world. So that, really, is what the war is about. It is being fought to consolidate a new world order, to create a new Middle East.
Does that mean that the war in Iraq is effectively a neoconservative war? That’s what people are saying, Kristol replies, laughing. But the truth is that it’s an American war. The neoconservatives succeeded because they touched the bedrock of America. The thing is that America has a profound sense of mission. America has a need to offer something that transcends a life of comfort, that goes beyond material success. Therefore, because of their ideals, the Americans accepted what the neoconservatives proposed. They didn’t want to fight a war over interests, but over values. They wanted a war driven by a moral vision. They wanted to hitch their wagon to something bigger than themselves.
Does this moral vision mean that after Iraq will come the turns of Saudi Arabia and Egypt?
Kristol says that he is at odds with the administration on the question of Saudi Arabia. But his opinion is that it is impossible to let Saudi Arabia just continue what it is doing. It is impossible to accept the anti-Americanism it is disseminating. The fanatic Wahhabism that Saudi Arabia engenders is undermining the stability of the entire region. It’s the same with Egypt, he says: we mustn’t accept the status quo there. For Egypt, too, the horizon has to be liberal democracy.
It has to be understood that in the final analysis, the stability that the corrupt Arab despots are offering is illusory. Just as the stability that Yitzhak Rabin received from Yasser Arafat was illusory. In the end, none of these decadent dictatorships will endure. The choice is between extremist Islam, secular fascism or democracy. And because of September 11, American understands that. America is in a position where it has no choice. It is obliged to be far more aggressive in promoting democracy. Hence this war. It’s based on the new American understanding that if the United States does not shape the world in its image, the world will shape the United States in its own image.
3. Charles Krauthammer
Is this going to turn into a second Vietnam? Charles Krauthammer says no. There is no similarity to Vietnam. Unlike in the 1960s, there is no anti-establishment subculture in the United States now. Unlike in the 1960s, there is now an abiding love of the army in the United States. Unlike in the 1960s, there is a determined president, one with character, in the White House. And unlike in the 1960s, Americans are not deterred from making sacrifices. That is the sea-change that took place here on September 11, 2001. Since that morning, Americans have understood that if they don’t act now and if weapons of mass destruction reach extremist terrorist organizations, millions of Americans will die. Therefore, because they understand that those others want to kill them by the millions, the Americans prefer to take to the field of battle and fight, rather than sit idly by and die at home.
Charles Krauthammer is handsome, swarthy and articulate. In his spacious office on 19th Street in Northwest Washington, he sits upright in a black wheelchair. Although his writing tends to be gloomy, his mood now is elevated. The well-known columnist (Washington Post, Time, Weekly Standard) has no real doubts about the outcome of the war that he promoted for 18 months. No, he does not accept the view that he helped lead America into the new killing fields between the Tigris and the Euphrates. But it is true that he is part of a conceptual stream that had something to offer in the aftermath of September 11. Within a few weeks after the attacks on the Twin Towers and the Pentagon, he had singled out Baghdad in his columns as an essential target. And now, too, he is convinced that America has the strength to pull it off. The thought that America will not win has never even crossed his mind.
What is the war about? It’s about three different issues. First of all, this is a war for disarming Iraq of its weapons of mass destruction. That’s the basis, the self-evident cause, and it is also sufficient cause in itself. But beyond that, the war in Iraq is being fought to replace the demonic deal America cut with the Arab world decades ago. That deal said: you will send us oil and we will not intervene in your internal affairs. Send us oil and we will not demand from you what we are demanding of Chile, the Philippines, Korea and South Africa.
That deal effectively expired on September 11, 2001, Krauthammer says. Since that day, the Americans have understood that if they allow the Arab world to proceed in its evil ways – suppression, economic ruin, sowing despair – it will continue to produce more and more bin Ladens. America thus reached the conclusion that it has no choice: it has to take on itself the project of rebuilding the Arab world. Therefore, the Iraq war is really the beginning of a gigantic historical experiment whose purpose is to do in the Arab world what was done in Germany and Japan after World War II.
It’s an ambitious experiment, Krauthammer admits, maybe even utopian, but not unrealistic. After all, it is inconceivable to accept the racist assumption that the Arabs are different from all other human beings, that the Arabs are incapable of conducting a democratic way of life.
However, according to the Jewish-American columnist, the present war has a further importance. If Iraq does become pro-Western and if it becomes the focus of American influence, that will be of immense geopolitical importance. An American presence in Iraq will project power across the region. It will suffuse the rebels in Iran with courage and strength, and it will deter and restrain Syria. It will accelerate the processes of change that the Middle East must undergo.
Isn’t the idea of preemptive war a dangerous one that rattles the world order?
There is no choice, Krauthammer replies. In the 21st century we face a new and singular challenge: the democratization of mass destruction. There are three possible strategies in the face of that challenge: appeasement, deterrence and preemption. Because appeasement and deterrence will not work, preemption is the only strategy left. The United States must implement an aggressive policy of preemption. Which is exactly what it is now doing in Iraq. That is what Tommy Franks’ soldiers are doing as we speak.
And what if the experiment fails? What if America is defeated?
This war will enhance the place of America in the world for the coming generation, Krauthammer says. Its outcome will shape the world for the next 25 years. There are three possibilities. If the United States wins quickly and without a bloodbath, it will be a colossus that will dictate the world order. If the victory is slow and contaminated, it will be impossible to go on to other Arab states after Iraq. It will stop there. But if America is beaten, the consequences will be catastrophic. Its deterrent capability will be weakened, its friends will abandon it and it will become insular. Extreme instability will be engendered in the Middle East.
You don’t really want to think about what will happen, Krauthammer says looking me straight in the eye. But just because that’s so, I am positive we will not lose. Because the administration understands the implications. The president understands that everything is riding on this. So he will throw everything we’ve got into this. He will do everything that has to be done. George W. Bush will not let America lose.
4. Thomas Friedman
Is this an American Lebanon War? Tom Friedman says he is afraid it is. He was there, in the Commodore Hotel in Beirut, in the summer of 1982, and he remembers it well. So he sees the lines of resemblance clearly. General Ahmed Chalabi (the Shi’ite leader that the neoconservatives want to install as the leader of a free Iraq) in the role of Bashir Jemayel. The Iraqi opposition in the role of the Phalange. Richard Perle and the conservative circle around him as Ariel Sharon. And a war that is at bottom a war of choice. A war that wants to utilize massive force in order to establish a new order.
Tom Friedman, The New York Times columnist, did not oppose the war. On the contrary. He too was severely shaken by September 11, he too wants to understand where these desperate fanatics are coming from who hate America more than they love their own lives. And he too reached the conclusion that the status quo in the Middle East is no longer acceptable. The status quo is terminal. And therefore it is urgent to foment a reform in the Arab world.
Some things are true even if George Bush believes them, Friedman says with a smile. And after September 11, it’s impossible to tell Bush to drop it, ignore it. There was a certain basic justice in the overall American feeling that told the Arab world: we left you alone for a long time, you played with matches and in the end we were burned. So we’re not going to leave you alone any longer.
He is sitting in a large rectangular room in the offices of The New York Times in northwest Washington, on the corner of 17th Street. One wall of the room is a huge map of the world. Hunched over his computer, he reads me witty lines from the article that will be going to press in two hours. He polishes, sharpens, plays word games. He ponders what’s right to say now, what should be left for a later date. Turning to me, he says that democracies look soft until they’re threatened. When threatened, they become very hard. Actually, the Iraq war is a kind of Jenin on a huge scale. Because in Jenin, too, what happened was that the Israelis told the Palestinians, We left you here alone and you played with matches until suddenly you blew up a Passover seder in Netanya. And therefore we are not going to leave you along any longer. We will go from house to house in the Casbah. And from America’s point of view, Saddam’s Iraq is Jenin. This war is a defensive shield. It follows that the danger is the same: that like Israel, America will make the mistake of using only force.
This is not an illegitimate war, Friedman says. But it is a very presumptuous war. You need a great deal of presumption to believe that you can rebuild a country half a world from home. But if such a presumptuous war is to have a chance, it needs international support. That international legitimacy is essential so you will have enough time and space to execute your presumptuous project. But George Bush didn’t have the patience to glean international support. He gambled that the war would justify itself, that we would go in fast and conquer fast and that the Iraqis would greet us with rice and the war would thus be self-justifying. That did not happen. Maybe it will happen next week, but in the meantime it did not happen.
When I think about what is going to happen, I break into a sweat, Friedman says. I see us being forced to impose a siege on Baghdad. And I know what kind of insanity a siege on Baghdad can unleash. The thought of house-to-house combat in Baghdad without international legitimacy makes me lose my appetite. I see American embassies burning. I see windows of American businesses shattered. I see how the Iraqi resistance to America connects to the general Arab resistance to America and the worldwide resistance to America. The thought of what could happen is eating me up.
What George Bush did, Friedman says, is to show us a splendid mahogany table: the new democratic Iraq. But when you turn the table over, you see that it has only one leg. This war is resting on one leg. But on the other hand, anyone who thinks he can defeat George Bush had better think again. Bush will never give in. That’s not what he’s made of. Believe me, you don’t want to be next to this guy when he thinks he’s being backed into a corner. I don’t suggest that anyone who holds his life dear mess with Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld and President Bush.
Is the Iraq war the great neoconservative war? It’s the war the neoconservatives wanted, Friedman says. It’s the war the neoconservatives marketed. Those people had an idea to sell when September 11 came, and they sold it. Oh boy, did they sell it. So this is not a war that the masses demanded. This is a war of an elite. Friedman laughs: I could give you the names of 25 people (all of whom are at this moment within a five-block radius of this office) who, if you had exiled them to a desert island a year and a half ago, the Iraq war would not have happened.
Still, it’s not all that simple, Friedman retracts. It’s not some fantasy the neoconservatives invented. It’s not that 25 people hijacked America. You don’t take such a great nation into such a great adventure with Bill Kristol and the Weekly Standard and another five or six influential columnists. In the final analysis, what fomented the war is America’s over-reaction to September 11. The genuine sense of anxiety that spread in America after September 11. It is not only the neoconservatives who led us to the outskirts of Baghdad. What led us to the outskirts of Baghdad is a very American combination of anxiety and hubris.
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