Haredim Ask For Adult Supervision

From the Times of Israel:

After Meron calamity, Haredim question the price of their own autonomy

Ultra-Orthodox media figures are calling for a commission of inquiry, and lashing the state for letting their community endanger itself.

A few overpowering facts, not least that nearly all the victims were Haredi, are driving an unusual new introspection, and leading the major media outlets of the community to turn against one of its characteristic traits: its longstanding and much-criticized “autonomy” from the Israeli state.

Haredi Israelis are simultaneously part of and apart from broader Israeli society. Making up as much as 12 percent of the Israeli population, the community is not uniform; different sects and subcultures interact in very different ways with the state and with other subgroups. While the “autonomy,” as Israelis often refer to the phenomenon, does not encompass all Haredim, it encompasses enough of the community to be — so growing numbers of Haredim now believe — a serious problem.

One sees the autonomy in studies of Israel’s cash economy that point to mass tax evasion in the Haredi community; in routine clashes with police in parts of Mea Shearim, Beit Shemesh, and other places; in the refusal to take part in national service; in school networks that refuse to teach the basic curriculum taught in non-Haredi schools; and, most recently, in the refusal of many Hasidic sects over the past year to obey pandemic lockdowns.

It is a community that talks about itself in the language of weakness, always a street scuffle or political squabble away from talk of “decrees,” “persecution,” and “antisemitism.” Proposals for welfare cuts or calls to introduce more math education in their schools are described in Haredi media in terms borrowed from czarist oppression in Eastern Europe.

That rhetoric of weakness and victimhood has a purpose: to cloak or perhaps to justify the opposite reality. As a group, Haredim are not weak. They are powerful enough to constantly expand and defend their separate school systems, to found towns and neighborhoods for their communities, to maintain a kind of self-rule that forces Israeli politicians to literally beg Haredi rabbinic leaders — usually unsuccessfully — to adhere to coronavirus restrictions.

The story of the Meron disaster cannot be divorced from this larger story of Haredi autonomy, from the Haredi habit of establishing facts on the ground that demonstrate their strength and independence, and then crying “persecution” when those steps are challenged.

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Margarita Interview (Posture, God, Morality, Neuroscience, Redpills) 4-30-21

Excerpt taken from full show 4-30-21:

Margarita, essayist: https://twitter.com/margaritaevna95
00:00 Margarita’s Substack, https://margaritasmanuscript.substack.com/
01:20 Sincerity and loneliness
05:20 Margarita’s worldview
11:20 Margarita was raised Hindu
23:00 Feminism
27:30 Getting redpilled
35:00 Jordan Peterson
1:24:30 Philosophy of health
1:28:00 Prozac and anti-depressants, https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2011/06/23/epidemic-mental-illness-why/
1:45:00 Favorite books
1:50:45 Internet and attention span
1:55:00 Painting

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Hidden Heretics: Jewish Doubt in the Digital Age (5-2-21)

00:00 Israel mourns victims of stampede on Mt. Meron
04:00 On Winks and Lies: The Performance of Sincerity and Conversion in Israel, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpAqEf7nYjU
32:00 Mickey Kaus on Joe Biden’s first 100 days, https://twitter.com/kausmickey/status/1388860829806780418
35:00 Aaron’s stroll stream from Jerusalem, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOIdTAukEUk
42:00 JF Gariepy in a transhumanism debate, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5TtSMvFaNY
55:00 Kaus on Biden’s immigration policy
58:30 REM Theory Part # 3: Why Apolloism?, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc-HqbjXurQ
1:00:00 Dooovid joins to discuss Israel stampede
1:02:00 Mount Meron, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Meron
1:05:00 Senior Police Officers Claim They Were Pressured By Politicians To Allow Mass Entry To Meron, https://vinnews.com/2021/05/02/senior-police-officers-claim-they-were-pressured-by-politicians-to-allow-mass-entry-to-meron/
1:24:00 Roger’s Version by John Updike, https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1986/12/04/mr-updikes-planet/
1:29:00 Meron disaster site revealed as a place where nobody was ever really in charge, https://www.timesofisrael.com/meron-disaster-site-revealed-as-a-place-where-nobody-was-ever-really-in-charge/
1:31:00 Recriminations Intensify After Deadly Israel Stampede, https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/01/world/middleeast/israel-mount-meron-stampede.html
1:36:00 What’s the karma with the stampede?
1:48:00 RICHARD SPENCER, ED DUTTON & ATHEISM IS UNSTOPPABLE, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4ESma2oWNo
1:51:00 Creating space for God
2:09:45 Hidden Heretics: Jewish Doubt in the Digital Age, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Po3m8YAVa8k
2:13:00 Money, respect, women: This livestream gets Luke none of these
2:28:00 Keith Woods on neo-tribalism, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfKRqHLyvVg&t=6230s
2:32:00 Matt Christman on death and religion and woke, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-MLuxaNu0Y
2:44:00 Dennis Dale joins from Portland, https://dennisdale.wordpress.com/
2:50:00 Top 10 Personality Traits of Likable People, https://readysetpsych.com/top-10-traits-of-likable-people/
3:14:00 How to Get to Know Someone – Useful Social Tips, https://readysetpsych.com/how-to-get-to-know-someone-useful-social-tips/

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Israel pilgrimage stampede kills 45, Margarita interview, On Winks and Lies (4-30-21)

00:00 Dooovid joins, he was watching live, https://vinnews.com/2021/04/30/photos-of-the-israeli-lag-baomer-tragedy/
35:00 Margarita, essayist: https://twitter.com/margaritaevna95
36:00 Margarita’s Substack, https://margaritasmanuscript.substack.com/
37:20 Sincerity and loneliness
40:20 Margarita’s worldview
46:20 Margarita was raised Hindu
58:00 Feminism
1:02:30 Getting redpilled
1:05:00 Jordan Peterson
1:54:30 Philosophy of health
1:58:00 Prozac and anti-depressants, https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2011/06/23/epidemic-mental-illness-why/
2:15:00 Favorite books
2:17:45 Internet and attention span
2:20:00 Painting
2:24:40 On Winks and Lies: The Performance of Sincerity and Conversion in Israel, https://lukeford.net/blog/?p=138970
2:27:00 Michal Kravel Rovi, “On Winks and Lies: The Performance of Sincerity and Conversion in Israel”, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpAqEf7nYjU
2:44:40 Tucker Carlson Frank Luntz & GOP
2:50:00 How does Tucker survive? https://www.latimes.com/business/story/2021-04-30/tucker-carlson-major-advertisers
2:56:00 Barricade Garage says anti-semitism is over, https://youtu.be/FnIIGntZqes?t=2933

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Every Mass Haredi Event Looks Like A Fire Hazard

Bud: Israel allowing mass event of such size to be held without proper safety protocols due to pressure of Ultra Orthodox pressure led to this. The state has responsibility to save people from their own deadly ignorance or its not a sovereign entity. The sect i think w most victims is Toldos Aaron who i just read on wikipedia among most anti zionist. (least respective of govt authority). You need secular people to understand safety needs. Every event haredi do looks like fire/trample hazard. The State has an obligation to protect minors. Live and let die is okay for adults, but minor safety an obligation of any modern state.”

The Haredim are like many minorities — they want no government oversight of their affairs, only government subsidies. If the Haredim don’t want fire marshals intervening, if they don’t want covid or educational oversight, then let Haredim live with the consequences and lets cut off relevant subsidies. We should not subsidize anti-social practices.

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