Steve Sailer: ‘Why does the reporter assume that there’s something tragic about young Keith Frazier not getting much of an education?’

Comments to Steve Sailer:

* Because liberals view higher education institutions as socializing/indoctrination centers that churn out people with the correct beliefs and people who are properly socialized and who won’t turn to anti-social activities like crime.

* The real tragedy is that so many grown men have nothing better to do with their free time than to sit and watch a bunch of other guys throw a ball around.

Think about all the money that we piss away on sports, professional and otherwise. Taxpayer subsidies for NFL stadiums alone run into – what? – the tens of billions of dollars. Then you have to factor in the billions given to the NBA, the NFL, and the NHL, among others.

(Many stadiums are declared obsolete only a decade or two after their construction.)

But the masses need their bread and circuses, don’t they? Male aggression needs to be channeled into useless sideshows, lest it be harnessed into a worthy social cause. If the drunken white fans woke up one morning and realized that they’d better off directing their hatred for their team’s rivals toward, say, the globalized elite who are screwing us all, then the powers that be would have something to worry about.

That will never happen, though.

* Sports occupies such a large portion of White male attention because every other avenue — entertainment, politics, arts, etc. has been profoundly feminized and made as hostile to ordinary White men as a fabulous gay Broadway production. Or the View.

There is a lot of hubris, in that older White males tend to see themselves as rescuers of not very bright but talented athletically younger Black males. No one can be “rescued” — people with gifts either apply them or not.

Clearly, for example, Vince Young was not cut out to be an NFL player, because despite his physical gifts he lacked the discipline and enjoyment of the game. Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, and Russell Wilson spend hours in film rooms just breaking down defenses with coaches, and probably spend hours talking about it during meals, etc. They do it because they love the game — they can’t get enough of it.

To be a professional athlete even in the NBA requires a floor of minimum discipline, attentiveness, staying out of the worst of trouble, and grinding through ugly road trips given an 82 game schedule. And some people despite physical gifts lack the ability to simply grind things out. That is not a tragedy, just a disappointment.

A LOT of what is wrong with the current zeitgeist, the anti-White male attitude, comes from Black male dominance in football, basketball, and the fading of baseball as the national pastime.

* Big-time sports in the USA is a nexus of so many primal instincts, fervent hopes, and half-acknowledged prejudices that it’s hard to know how to start thinking about it.

In one sense, the Frazier story is indeed a tragedy, in that it’s all about the American equivalent of Achilles or Odysseus. The ancient Greeks had great warriors steeped in the pursuit of arête; we’ve got college hoops stars.

But in other ways college athlete narratives go well beyond heroic tales. Frazier and his cohort of black, inner-city sports stars are exemplars in the heretical Christian progressive redemption narrative that drives so much of western culture. They are lost souls, atoned for by the good intentions of coaches, boosters, and fans, and then redeemed and raised up to both potential fame and fortune, and, as Anon and Olorin have noted, to equal place with their benefactors, i.e. as ‘college graduates’.

College and pro sports therefore provide the perfect vector this redemption narrative to be spread out to a far wider proportion of the American people. It’s not only for hard lefties and SJWs; lots of good red-blooded conservative sports fans can partake as well.

* Well of course organized sports is bread and circuses for the masses, the elites love it because it causes lower class whites to misdirect their tribal nature and nationalistic loyalties to some bulls**t game played by thug blacks. Rather than noticing the systematic screwing they are getting at the hands of the elites.

It’s the modern day Soma drug. The last thing elites want is a white working and middle-class looking out for their country and their own well being. As generally that leads to revolutions and rebellions.

It’s really sad when you look at the white men who really buy into organized sports, they are complete wastes. They don’t even get how pathetic they look and act. They end up worshiping black men who if it were not for organized sports would be beating the s**t out of white men like them and raping their women. And guess what? They often engage in fights and scuffles in bars and others establishments but it’s kept out of the papers. They still end up raping women but thanks to six and seven figure payoffs by the teams, women don’t file charges.

* I suspect back-up quarterbacks who stick it out tend to have a fairly realistic sense of the future. My son’s quarterback classmate in high school went to USC where he dutifully backed up various future NFL quarterbacks. By the time his four years of NCAA eligibility were up, he already had his Masters in Real Estate Development and a good job lined up with some alumni.

* “Keith changed our program,” Brown said at the time. “We’ve never been successful in recruiting inner-city kids.”

It’s worth taking a moment to think about Brown’s phrasing. I’m guessing very few people would be confused as to what Brown means by “inner city kids.” However, had he substituted the word “black” for “inner city,” he would have been in for a world of pain, because whereas everyone knows “inner city kids” are essential to a successful college basketball program, the racial composition of the team can’t possibly have anything to do with its potential for success.

I’d never heard of Keith Frazier before so I Googled his hometown: Irving, Texas. Not really most people’s idea of the inner city. I’ve never been there, but apparently Irving is a part of something called the Dallas-Fort Worth Metroplex. The metropolitan airport is there.

Irving is predominantly non-hispanic white and hispanic. Blacks make up 10% of the population, in other words, less than the black national average. But would an Angloish-looking hispanic kid, or for that matter an Asian kid (8% of the population) from Irving be described as inner city?

Everyone knows what Larry Brown means by “inner city,” but it could be worth one’s job to point it out.

* In college, the easy way to win is to break the recruiting rules. But that means it helps to move on, like Pete Carroll moved on from USC to the Seattle Seahawks before the NCAA hammer came down on USC.

On the other hand, some long term college coaches managed to institutionalize rule bending. For example, Wooden outsourced to a booster named Sam Gilbert the shadier side of keeping players happy (although back then the stakes were lower and so were the payoffs — Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, probably the most valuable recruit in college basketball history, has funny stories about the summer jobs he had in college to scrape by). Dean Smith of North Carolina responded to the rise of Duke by ginning up the Afro Studies Department system for keeping black jocks eligible.

* ro coaches/managers generally have a more straightforward job since the leagues have very carefully rules about how players get assigned.

The most radical approach was that of New York Yankees owner George Steinbrenner — a personality not wholly unlike that of Donald Trump in his nonstop media feuds — in the 1970s and 1980s who frequently fired and rehired Yankees managers. Billy Martin served five different tenures under Steinbrenner from 1975-1988. Bob Lemon, Dick Howser, and Gene Michael served two separate terms each.

It was extremely exhausting to read about in the sports section. It seemed particularly bizarre to an L.A. Dodgers fan like myself who had 2 managers over 43 seasons — Walter Alston and Tommy Lasorda. Vin Scully plans to retire this coming October after his 67th season as a Dodger radio announcer. (Los Angelenos love ancient sports announcers like Scully, who has been with the Dodgers since 1950, and the late Chick Hearn of the Lakers).

But, Bill James has said that he thinks Steinbrenner’s system of constant hiring and firing of managers made sense. For example, Billy Martin tended to light a fire under his teams, but also burn them out. For example, Martin famously jumpstarted the 1980 Oakland A’s by having their young starters pitch huge numbers of innings, but they were never the same afterwards.

* There’s also a class angle to “inner city kids.”

For example, Stephen Curry, who will likely win his second NBA MVP award after this season, is not an inner city kid. He is the son of a 16 year NBA player, Del Curry. Steph went to posh Davidson College, where he appears to have fit in nicely. He likely would have been welcome at SMU before Larry Brown’s arrival.

It’s possible for a few colleges to stock their teams from black suburban middle class kids. Duke long did that with guys like Grant Hill (whose father knew George W. Bush at Yale) and Shane Battier.

In contrast, LeBron James, to pick a successful example, is an inner city kid from Akron. His mom is, what, only 16 or 17 years older than him?

Michael Jordan would have fallen in-between, a lower middle class kid.

* If you go back to the Dream Team, the most ghetto guy on the team was Chris Mullen. It was either working class kids like Ewing, Jordan and Magic or Southern rural guys like Barkley or Malone. There is something of a history of Black America in the class background of NBA stars. In the 1970′s, a lot of ghetto guys came into the league and burnt out on coke. In the 80′s, the inner-city went to crap to such a degree that none of the stars came from really poor backgrounds. In the 90′s, we got much better in getting the stars out of the ghetto early, but we never really got the ghetto out of the stars and a lot of them burnt out early. By the 2000′s, the inner city was recovering and scouting got so good that potential stars were identified in 3rd grade and they are almost like robots.

Larry Brown is the only person to win an NCAA championship and NBA championship, so its not only recruiting violations (btw, Pete Carroll did the same, UCLA crybaby, and he was never even accused of recruiting violations). OTOH, Brown is one of two American coaches to lose an Olympics and the only one who lost in the pro-era.

* Next Town Brown.

It really is an amazing career. All-American under Frank McGuire at UNC, part of the NYC pipeline that started up the ACC as a power, although Everett Case at NC State really had started it all. Larry actually played high school ball out on Long Beach, lived in Lido Beach.

Carolina got put on probation while he was there, so he played under Dean Smith at the end of his college career, but never had Dean’s shiny reputation.

MVP of the first ABA all-star game. He and Doug Moe led Oakland to an early ABA title.

As a kid my first memory of him was coaching the Carolina Cougars. Great team, fast paced, led by fellow UNC alumnus from Brooklyn, Billy “Kangaroo Kid” Cunningham. Larry wore loud, multi-colored checked jackets with bell-bottoms.

Then he coached the great Denver Nuggets teams with more of his preferred ACC guys like the great David Thompson from NC State and Bobby Jones from UNC. Dan Issel rounded it out so he’d throw in an SEC guy now and then. They had the best regulate season record but lost to Dr. J’s Nets in the ABA, but the Nuggets kept winning under Larry when they made the NBA transition.

Then he takes UCLA to their first title game since Wooden retired.

Off to an awful Nets team that he turned into a playoff team. More ACC guys like Buck Williams, Albert King, Mike Gminski and Mike O’Koren. And also Darryl Dawkins, Chocolate Thunder, who didn’t like Brown. Said he played favorites with his ACC guys. Although DD shoukd look at his stats and realize Buck Williams was 3 inches shorter and gave up 50 pounds to him but out-rebounded him by 4-5 a game.

He leaves the Nets right before the playoffs for a vacant Kansas job.

Kansas has had 8 coaches in 118 years. Their first coach is Dr. James Naismith, who invented the game. Their third coach is Phog Allen, the legend, who coached Dean Smith AND Adolph Rupp, at one time 1 and 2 in college coaching wins. He leads them to the 1952 title. Dean was a reserve on that team.

In 1957 Kansas goes to the finals with Wilt, but loses to an undefeated North Carolina.

Ted Owens coached Kansas for many years and had some good teams, made two Final Fours, coached Jo Jo White etc, but Kansas wasn’t the annual powerhouse then. They had to go through cycles like most teams, and when Owens led 3 losing teams in 4 years and lost 9 straight to Kansas State and lost to Wichita State the year they made the tournament in that stretch, he became the only Kansas coach ever fired.

So Brown comes in. He hires Ed Manning to be his assistant. Ed had played for him on the Cougars. Ed’s son Danny spurns the local ACC teams and goes to Kansas. Kansas makes two Final Fours and wins the 1988 NCAAs. Then Larry high tails it right ahead of probation.

But Larry re-established Kansas. Roy Williams comes from UNC to keep the UNC-Kansas pipeline going, wins 19 his first year then gets Kansas into every NCAA tourney thereafter until he goes back to UNC. Now Kansas is an annual beast under Bill Self, a former Larry assistant. And John Calipari also was an assistant to Larry at Kansas.

Larry goes to, you got it Reg, his 4th old ABA team, the Spurs of the NBA. They are awful at first but he leads them to 2 50 + win seasons with a young David Robinson. His assistants included a young Greg Popovich. Pretty illustrious coaching tree but he is like Belichik to Brown’s Bill Parcells.

Next I think it’s the Sixers? Gets Allen Iverson to practice long enough to make an NBA finals. Then the Pistons and finally an NBA title.

Then a disaster with the Knicks under fellow UNC New Yorker Donnie Walsh.

Then, yup, a so-so run in Charlotte.

And somehow he has turned SMU into a damn good team. Somehow? Oh yeah, more probation.

I think Larry had always wanted that UNC job. He loved Dean. Said it would hurt him more when Dean said Larry I think you can do that better than when MCGuire would call him a stupid Jew.

Carolina rightfully probably thought he was too ethically loose. Of course now Carolina has the cloud of a close to 20 year scandal of a no class’s Af-Am department paper class that was graded by a secretary which allegedly kept athletes eligible. Of course, who knows but that some players but a lot of effort in their paper in The Life of Sojourner Truth.

Anyway it tars everyone, including academic first team all-American Marcus Paige, recruited after this practice ended. On senior night the other day he commented that it annoyed his teammates that he corrected their grammar.

Carolina alumni are proud of him, but would be prouder if he finally can lead his senior class to at least an elite 8. Only two classes since 1966 at UNC haven’t made it at least that far. Which was two years before Dean Smith recruited Charlie Scott as the first black player in the ACC below the Mason Dixon line. I had to add that qualifier since Maryland had a couple before but no one remembers that.

Anyway, Larry is part of a great tradition, at times sordid, but great. And even Darryl Dawkins said he helped him develop his left hand.

* So…people who like to blow off steam, spend time with old friends via the common interest of a favorite team, or just simply enjoy the excitement of sports should refrain as long as there are elites taking advantage of the masses.

And do what? Post sanctimonious blog comments telling hard-working adults how they should spend their down-time?

OK–How about this: You’re a grown man who comments on blogs. Many people might claim that you should find something better to do with your free time.

Cuz, really, Stan, at least the sports fan has fun. He’s laughing, he’s bonding with his kids. If he’s younger, he’s forging memories with his buddies. He’s checking out the girls during the time-outs and when the game ends, he’ll head out on town and more fun (and possibly even some trouble) awaits. All in all, young and old alike are having a good time.

But not Stan. He doesn’t have time for a good time. He can’t because we live in this unusual time, where the elites take advantage of the masses. There is no time for relaxation. No time for fun. There’s definitely no laughs. No friends. No diversion. Nope, it’s just Stan and his computer making the world a better place.

Hey Stan, while you’re making the world a better place, I want you to do me a favor: Follow this link to Wikipedia and read about “Narcotizing Dysfunction”:

* I’ve stood next to both Larry Brown and his coaching brother, Herb Brown. Neither man was more than 5’8″, at most – short by point guard standards, even of the 1960′s.

However, Larry knows his X’s and O’s. The Pistons definitely improved once he took the reins before the NBA championship season of 2004.

I think what great NBA coaches do best is to identify the extremely talented ( yet under-producing) players on other teams, and then somehow get them by hook or crook onto their own rosters.

Larry Brown’s behind the scenes maneuvering to get the mercurial Rasheed Wallace – a fellow UNC Tar Heel- at power forward was the stroke of genius that put the Pistons over the top. Rasheed was incredible for two years under Larry Brown, and un-coachable for everyone else.

* I have a couple of friends who played baseball at college with a big-time football program. They described to me the army of handlers available to them in order to do everything from homework to course selection to crisis management.

The tutors weren’t supposed to actually give them answers or direct them what to write on their assignments, so they used this kind of Socratic kabuki to provide a fig leaf of plausible deniability that they were openly doing the athletes’ coursework for them.

OK, so if the answer is a whole number between 1 and 3, what is it?

And these were the baseball players, most of whom weren’t on scholarship. They were bright, white, and paying their own freight. Imagine what the football and basketball players had.

* I haven’t followed the details of the AfAm Studies Dept debacle at UNC because the leftist destruction of that once great university is almost enough to cause me to root for Dook today. I would only be paying attention in an effort to bolster what I already know to be true.

It would not surprise me to know that Dean knew about it. On the other hand, when the football coach was sacrificed a few years ago, I was surprised to learn that the academic dept had some time ago taken control of the athletic studies programs away from the athletic dept. What was unsurprising was that they were still able to blame the athletics side for being responsible.

Dean was certainly known for running a clean program. Another poster mentioned the famous JR vs Ferry SAT score debate. But, Dean was also a big Democrat booster, and while the local media would always bitch about even the hint of Coach K supporting a Republican candidate, they won’t offer an unkind word about Dean. Don’t you know that Dean (entirely unselfishly, I have no doubt) broke the color barrier in the ACC by recruiting Charlie Scott??? So, who knows what he may have known.

Dean was also notoriously demanding as a coach; at practices running his players to exhaustion, and having very little tolerance for injury, just as two examples. Since another poster mentioned George Lynch, I know from a friend who was on the JV team at the time, that Lynch was the only guy on that NCAA championship team that Dean couldn’t break in running. Dude could apparently run all day long(***). That reminds me that I took a racket ball class with Derrick Phelps who was so ridiculously athletic that he was easily beating the instructor, at a game he had (as far as I know) never played before, in almost no time at all. The season after winning it all, our hopes were dashed by an injured Phelps going out against Boston College, wherein he was added to the list of players who’s injuries as a result of dirty plays would ruin a potential national championship for a UNC team (cf. Kenny Smith and Kendal Marshall).

(*** George Lynch was a stud despite being several months premature and just a few pounds at birth. Looked like he was beat on the second or third play of the game against Juwan Howard but then smacked his sh-t off the backboard from behind (which in my memory was a tone-setting play). Lynch was the guy who, when a ball was floating naked in the air between him and one or more opponents, always seemed to just reach out and demand possession of it. Just a stud. Oh, and I guess he played on that Philly finals team under Larry Brown).

* “As a parent saving for college, find it infuriating people like Brown and Dick Vitale advocate paying college athletes in addition to already giving them a shot at a free education. And I say that as a parent who has a son who may benefit from a college football scholarship.Here’s a half million dollars of education and room and board, and that’s not enough.”

Actually, for an 85 IQ but athletically top .1% or .01% athlete, it is indeed not enough. More accurately, it’s like giving a Ferrari to a tribe in Africa with no gasoline, no paved roads, no tools, no mechanical skills, and no clue what it is. The “education” is worthless to them because they can’t utilize it, except to get a gummint or AA sinecure for a minority with a degree.

What it does do to them is to burn their time. If you are an athlete at this level, you have a finite number of hours of play, and a finite number of years to use them in. Instead of giving their full attention to the only thing they will ever do in life that will honestly earn them more than a subsistence income, they are having to pretend to be students, and they aren’t very good at it, it stresses them, and it teaches them that you have to scheme, connive and dodge to get along.

By forcing basketball and football to build out a farm club system, these athletes can focus on what they do best and be paid for it. If the leagues were morally sound, they’d require contractually each athlete have a professionally managed sequestered account into which a percentage of their pay had to go so they could live the rest of their lives without going on welfare.

Meanwhile, it frees up “slots” at colleges for real students. Those athletes that really could benefit from education will be easily able to afford it if they go pro for even a couple of years when their playing days are done. It keeps these powerful adolescents off campus for their wildest years, too, meaning coeds don’t get turned out.

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Sweden to become a Third World Country by 2030, according to UN

REPORT: According to UN projections, Sweden will be a much poorer country by 2030, much worse than what anyone in the Swedish government indicates.

The UN report HDI (Human Development Index) predicts a significant decrease in Swedish prosperity, unlike their Nordic neighbors, who will retain their top positions and even strengthen them globally in the long run.

In 2010 Sweden had the 15th place in the HDI rankings but according to UN forecasts, Sweden will be #25 in 2015, and in 2030 on the 45th place.

Sweden is one of few countries with such a sharp deterioration from what it had in 2010.

Finland demonstrates one of the world’s best school systems, while the Swedish school have lost competitiveness.

Fewer ends up on welfare dependency in their Nordic neighboring countries while Sweden continues to have a greater amount of family households forced to live on welfare, which are a couple factors causing the dropped global competitiveness.

Negative developments, or rather liquidations can be exemplified by Orrefors Kosta Boda, which in 1992 had 940 employees in Sweden and was a profitable industry. Today less than 100 remain in the company after further cost reductions and adaptations in order to meet global competition.

Most of today’s less developed countries such as Cuba, Mexico, the Baltic countries and Bulgaria according to the 2030 UN report will be passing Sweden in prosperity.

Even Greece, which today is more or less bankrupt, but will be on 13th place by 2030.

Sweden’s leftist establishment and media believe a cornerstone of their perfect society is multiculturalism: large scale immigration from some of the poorest, most backward nations on earth. Swedes who disagree with that plan risk being labeled racist, fascist, even Nazi.

“We had a perfectly good country,” Ingrid Carlqvist, a journalist said. “A rich country, a nice country, and in a few years’ time, that country will be gone.”

The logic should be really simple to understand, yet many have difficulties grasping it: If you import the Third World, it’s what you’ll get.

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Hands up! Don’t Shoah!

* Some goyim raised their hand at a Trump rally. I’m so very triggered.

* So unfair to help Germany transition to her new multicultural Muslim status and not include Austria in the fun!

* These goyim think they can just elect whomever they want!

Goyim get to pick one from APPROVED options. This is NOT acceptable. Trump was never an approved option!

* We should give daily awards to whichever Jew is the most shrill in his/her denunciation of Trump. There can be more than one category.
1) Most over-the-top Hitler/Fascist comparisons.
2) Most condescending nasal-snide dismissal.
3) Guilt by non-association smear.
4) Best referencing of Jewish nationalist org (SPLC, ADL, SWC).
5) Most condescending swipe at his working class white voters.

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National Review Advocates Committing A Crime To Stop Donald Trump

Comment: This seems like a pretty big deal to me. National Review has published an article by John Fund that urges Republican delegates to commit a misdemeanor in order to deny Donald Trump the Republican nomination:

“If Donald Trump won’t release his tax returns prior to the GOP convention, the delegates pledged to him on the first ballot should abstain from giving him their votes. Other than their vote not counting, there are no realistic consequences for any delegate doing so on the first ballot. A few states make breaking the first-ballot pledge rule a misdemeanor, but no one is ever prosecuted. In theory, state leaders could exact political retribution but such discipline is rarely exercised.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/432326/donald-trump-tax-returns-must-be-released?target=author&tid=902877

National Review’s editor, Rich Lowry, presumably approved this for publication.

I realize things are getting crazy on the donor side, but I’m still trying to wrap my head around this: National Review just knowingly advocated the commission of a crime in order to subvert the democratic process. It couldn’t be real … but it is! It really happened. That’s a big deal, isn’t it? Over its history NR has fired writers and editors for much less.

Because it’s an iSteve world, Fund’s author bio at National Review is hilarious:

“In 2004, he wrote Stealing Elections: How Voter Fraud Threatens Our Democracy. He has written two books with Hans von Spakovsky: Who’s Counting?: How Fraudsters and Bureaucrats Put Your Vote at Risk and Obama’s Enforcer: Eric Holder’s Justice Department.

http://www.nationalreview.com/author/john-fund

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Indians Are Nice

AP: “In its request for consultation, India alleges the U.S. had increased fees for temporary visas in December, officials said. It argues that as a result, some Indians receive unfair treatment compared with Americans in the United States in providing similar services in sectors like computer services.”

Comments to Steve Sailer:

* Indians in India are nice, but there’s a reason progress is slow in India. It’s a low-trust, high-talk, all-time-politics, nepotistic, low-do culture.

* I’ve now worked in several places that go out of their way to hire H1Bs, usually Indian but not uncommonly Chinese. The main reason for hiring these people directly is that they are effectively indentured servants. To stay in this country and eventually get trhe coveted green card they must keep theit H1B employer happy. They will do anything to keep the visa including working uncompensated hours until late into the night and weekends.

Some are decent tech workers. Most are only semi-competent. Their employers rely on a small cadre of retained, native-born and educated workers to debug and correct all but the most obvious problems. higher level work beyond simple coding and support is almost invariably the purview of the native-born cadres. Employment contractors, like the notorious TaTa and various domestic exploiters like Covansys, Deloitte and Touche, etc., make a mint by over-rating their H1Bs, getting them high paying jobs that they cannot handle, and reaping enormous profits from fees and grossly overpriced G&A and Overhead charges. They don’t care whether the workers supply can do the work.

It’s a particular issue in state government work. US native-born tech workers are screwed over three times: (1) Their jobs are stolen from them by unqualified foreigners; (2) They wind up training and supporting these foreign workers; (3) Tax payers are stuck paying inflated wages for incompetent and destructive employees w ho have no investment in their work or the citizens they supposedly serve.

Meanwhile, the US pipeline of STEM workers is closing down as native-born students interested in these fields see that their is no future for them if they continue in STEM. If they do follow their interest, by the time they’re thirty they’ll have trained their incompetent H1B replacement and taken their place on the unemployment line behind their native-born predecessors.

Even if Trump wins and fulfills all his promises it will take more than a decade to correct the havoc wrought on native-born workers by these ill-advised immigration policies.

* Once people understand the loss of sovereignty in these trade deals, a move to repeal or renegotiate them will have a majority. If there’s a president who pursues it.

* I sometimes feel guilty about treating my own children different from other people’s. Aren’t they, like, all equal, man?

MORE COMMENTS:

* Global trade rules need to be renegotiated on this point of governments needing to treat foreign workers as the equal of their own. Is that really what American citizens want from their society or does society exist to serve the interests of global capital? No other candidate, Democrat or Republican, will touch this. It’s his for the taking.

* Shouldn’t the Indians themselves be against this? Where’s are India’s nationalists on this one? I would have thought the Indians needed tech savvy workers for their own ambitious infrastructure targets.

No country has ever gotten rich through remittance money. The only way to go from poor to rich is by producing useful products and developing a strong domestic infrastructure. The remittance road to prosperity story is yet another lie being peddled by the ultra-liberals.

* Over 600,000,000 of them still poop and pee on the ground, even though they know that it spreads disease. They don’t have the collective mental capacity to build an advanced civilization. Their leaders know this and therefore encourage anyone with talent to leave and colonize other countries, as would you if you were in their shoes.

If you were an elite Brahmin would you stick around in your country building toilets (that the peasants likely won’t use) or would you abandon your country and go live with a more advanced race and civilization?

* Why doesn’t the USA just give Puerto Rico its independence? This article is just one more reason for it. I have never seen what the benefit is to keeping an impoverished, Spanish-speaking island hundreds of miles from America. The USA has also gotten stuck absorbing millions of P.R’s excess population. America didn’t even manage to switch it over to English. If it ever becomes a state it could be the Trojan horse for bilingualism in the USA. As a Canadian, I can tell you that is the last thing in the world you want to have.

* It’s totally absurd that Puerto Rico is allowed to play a role in the Republican (and Democratic) presidential nominating process since Puerto Ricans play no role in Presidential elections. PR gets 23 delegates. Since Trump is unlikely to get any delegates from PR, it is ironic that PR may play a role in denying Trump the nomination. If you were to subtract the 23 PR delegates from the total, Trump would only have to get 1225 delegates, rather than 1237, to secure the nomination. It will be interesting to see how many delegates Trump gets by the time of the Convention. BTW there are other territories which don’t vote in Presidential elections yet get delegates to choose the party nominees. They should also be denied participation in the nomination process.

* If you think like a capitalist, the absurd thing is that Americans demand better treatment than indians when the latter is willing to do the same work for less.

To a non-nationalist migrant, the idea that you should particularly care about people that you share absolutely nothing with except that you happened to be born kind of close to them is also not a given. If you need visible ethnic breakdown to visualize it fully, think of South African whites migrating out. Co-nationals just don’t mean that much.

The nationalists here love to say “that is what separate nations are for.” To the elite of many nations, a separate nation might be a improvement but that is not easy to do. (look at south asian chinese expats consider singapore heaven) Failing that, walled compounds or migration to places that shares more of their values is better.

From a economics point of view, network effects counts for quite a lot and productivity is raised if you just gather enough smart people at one point. It is better to be in disadvantaged in a productive spot than be the most talented person surrounded by envious retards. National IQ have stronger correlation with income than the personal one.

If you view your in-group as a class as opposed to a nation and care about their interests, you get different answer for the immigration question.

* The documentary “Cartel Land” is on Netflix. Amazing film, it’s as good as drama as it is as reportage. Anyway, anyone who wonders why we need a wall, a big one, right now, should watch that movie.

* There are two basic approaches to voting. One is that voting is a job, and we want informed and conscientious voters, which I think is the approach most people take naturally without thinking much about it. In that case some people aren’t qualified to vote and you should spend time determining what the qualifications are.

The other approach was taken by Aristotle, who argued that if the government could cause you harm, such as through taxation, conscription, or imprisonment, then you should have a say in what the government does. Incidentally, Aristotle was not considered to be as much of a small “d” democrat as most Greeks because he favored keeping the older aristocratic and monarchical elements in the government. But he wanted the democratic portion to be really democratic.

I agree with Aristotle’s approach, and its hard from that line of reasoning to deny the franchise even to prisoners currently serving their sentence, because they are under the control of government more than most. And actually polling places in prisons and even lunatic asylums is not unheard of outside the US.

With the “voting is a job” approach, then you can get from their to disenfrachising prisoners and even convicted felons not in prison, but there is a problem in that it doesn’t stop there. Do you take the vote away from a high IQ felon and give it to a low IQ non-felon? Or do you deny it to both? Which level of IQ/ income/ problems with the law exactly do you draw the line? Does the nature of the crime itself matter? What if the law that had been broken was pretty much bs?

So I don’t think a criminal conviction should result in removal from the voter rolls, but I disagree with polling places in prisons or giving prisoners absentee ballots. But on paper you should be able to vote as long as you keep your citizenship.

* Thank you Mr. Trump for breaking through the Great Wall of Smugness these mainstream people were comfortably living within. Now they have to entertain the possibility that they haven’t got us all figured out.

It looks like one of the positive side-effects of Trump tearing the cozy neocon-cuckservative love nest to shreds is that he’s also forcing Guardian types to wonder whether things are more complicated than they thought. The Grand Vermifuge really is a tonic for our sick political body.

* So I am sitting in our mess hall next to an Episcopal priest from Virginia and across from one of my liberal colleagues from Massachusetts, and they are talking about Trump. The priest says with a condescending tone, “I’ve never met anyone who is going to vote for the man.” I stick my hand near his face and say, “Pleased to meet you.” They stopped talking about Trump.

* I’ve slowly been working on a story about how a young man comes out to his liberal parents from the father’s point of view. You know, the signs had been there, vulgar web sights, changing outlook on life, even the way he spoke and his vocal intonations changed at bit.

The boy had totally new friends of the working class persuasion. The family had not had a manual laborer in it since 1850, etc.

The boy had never believed in Santa Claus and even as a young child has a Matrix poster on his bedroom wall featuring some shiny Red Pills.

And of course the boy is coming out of the Trump-closet to his parents. His father then declares that boy is no son of his and the mother screams hysterically that it was the most disgusting thing she could think of was what he and his new friends get up to when they all go to the polling booth to pull the lever for Trump.

And in the end the boy is kicked out of the house and written off forever by his parents!

* This seems like a pretty big deal to me. National Review has published an article by John Fund that urges Republican delegates to commit a misdemeanor in order to deny Donald Trump the Republican nomination:

“If Donald Trump won’t release his tax returns prior to the GOP convention, the delegates pledged to him on the first ballot should abstain from giving him their votes. Other than their vote not counting, there are no realistic consequences for any delegate doing so on the first ballot. A few states make breaking the first-ballot pledge rule a misdemeanor, but no one is ever prosecuted. In theory, state leaders could exact political retribution but such discipline is rarely exercised.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/432326/donald-trump-tax-returns-must-be-released?target=author&tid=902877

National Review’s editor, Rich Lowry, presumably approved this for publication.

I realize things are getting crazy on the donor side, but I’m still trying to wrap my head around this: National Review just knowingly advocated the commission of a crime in order to subvert the democratic process. It couldn’t be real … but it is! It really happened. That’s a big deal, isn’t it? Over its history NR has fired writers and editors for much less.

Because it’s an iSteve world, Fund’s author bio at National Review is hilarious:

“In 2004, he wrote Stealing Elections: How Voter Fraud Threatens Our Democracy. He has written two books with Hans von Spakovsky: Who’s Counting?: How Fraudsters and Bureaucrats Put Your Vote at Risk and Obama’s Enforcer: Eric Holder’s Justice Department.

http://www.nationalreview.com/author/john-fund

* America. Both LOL and sigh.

A land where Jews force all politicians to pledge to AIPAC but then complain of Trump’s authoritarian style.

A land where a clown like Beck accuses Trump of not being serious.

* You can do a lot of stuff in a Latin American prison that you can’t do in an American prison.

Mel Gibson’s movie “Get the Gringo” is pretty informative: the traditional rule was that the prisoners can’t leave but anybody else in town could bribe their way in — e.g., prostitutes, families, cable TV hook-up guys, carnival ride operators, or gangsters needing a place to hole up from the law. Latin American prisons tend to be vibrant!

* Israel seems to have a booming high-tech sector without importing so much as a single Indian. So why does America need them? The Ashkenazi-White IQ gap isn’t that big.

* Lots of Israeli tech workers in America too, though they are unlikely to be at the low end of IT jobs. America is the tech workshop of the world, so every ambitious tech person wants to be there. Anywhere else (India definitely, Israel too) is a backwater doing grunt work.

* The whole world has noticed that America is now a nation of beta pushovers who have bent so far over backward they can see the other side. Women get whatever they want by simply demanding it “It’s unfair, Unfair, UNFAIR!” There’s no demand too extreme. Why shouldn’t India make demands? It’s unfair! America is descended from Britain and shouldn’t they feel guilty for having ruled India for centuries? No reparations will ever be enough.

* Free trade agreements prohibit India from giving priority to its farmers and local farm products over those produced by foreign countries. The US keeps its farm produce artificially cheap (and extremely competitive) by subsidizing its farmers. That has the effect of killing off agriculture in poor countries (and in India, literally killing off the farmers, many of whom commit suicide because they are unable to pay off their debts.) The percentage of population that is rural is much higher in India (and other poor countries) than it is in your country. But you all don’t see, or care for, the effects of free trade on others, and just raise a hue and cry when it affects you.

Go ahead and elect Trump. Let him roll back all free trade agreements. It’ll be an interesting experiment.

* “The US has a visa waiver program with many countries (typically OECD) which allows you to travel without visas.”

US citizens are free to visit most European countries without a visa, but the US government requires visas for citizens of European countries to visit the US. A pretty glaring non-reciprocity that is often pointed out by Europeans when they visit here.

* One of the driving forces behind unionization was the “sharing of tribal knowledge”. As workers got older and more experienced, they knew more about the equipment and processes and had developed various efficiencies. They had no incentive to give this knowledge away with coworkers. When people were laid off, they needed to show their value above and beyond that of their peers. Only by having union seniority rules (LIFO) could they be cajoled to work as a team and share their knowledge with the new guys.

Now that we are returning to pre-union employment conditions (wholesale replacement of existing workers with cheap alien labor) it would behoove every worker to keep their work practices and procedures secret. As all non-union craft and industrial workers knew in 1890, you need every edge.

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Why Doesn’t Europe Defend Itself From The Muslim/African Invasion Of Refugees?

Steve Sailer writes: “It’s almost as if Europe should have policies in place to defend itself from being overrun by guys in shiny tracksuits so that it doesn’t really matter what Putin is up to with regard to immigration in Western Europe.”

Comments to Steve Sailer:

* Basically anti-immigrationists are to be regarded like communists in the Cold war, as Russia’s potential fifth column. Really perverse how the nation-wreckers are trying to cloak their project in the language of patriotism.

* It’s almost as if nobody has any idea what is going on besides the people rushing in for free stuff and unprosecuted rapes.

NEWSFLASH:

People respond to incentives. Stop incentivizing crime, start enforcing laws.

For the love of god, Europeans take back your countries and restore order.

For the future well-being of the world to be ensured, the future well-being of European ancestry countries must be ensured.

Europeans brought the modern world into existence. If European ancestry countries decay, so goes the world. If Europeans flourish, the world flourishes.

* “Russians are messing with our patriotic duty to abolish ourselves!!!”

But the irony.

During the Cold War, the West encouraged nationalism in Eastern Europe to undermine Soviet domination.

Now, Russia is encouraging nationalism in the West to undermine EU domination.

But for real patriots, Putin is doing them a favor.

A scream that says WAKE UP, DAMMIES!!!

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Do you think we’ll have targeted assassinations and killings in the run up to the US election?

America is about to explode over Donald Trump. We’re right on the edge of killing.

The critics of Trump says he’s Hitler. To kill a Hitler is a mitzvah in many minds. The crazies are picking up this talk and may well act on it. On the other hand, white nationalists are desperate for Trump to win. They’ll stop at nothing to put him over the top. I wouldn’t be surprised to see them assassinate those who get in Trump’s way.

REPORT:

“Bad vibes.” “Scary.” “Tense.” “Physical.” “New level of menace.” “Vicious.”

Those are the words used by reporters who covered the New Orleans campaign rally by leading Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump Friday evening to describe the leftist anti-Trump protesters who disrupted the rally and the reactions of fed-up Trump supporters.

There was even a report that Trump’s campaign manager was personally escorting protesters out of the rally.

Trump New Orleans
Image via Twitter.

“New Orleans protesters second line outside of Trump Rally at Lakefront Airport”

“Tonight was the most intense rally I’ve witnessed so far on the trail. This is just a clip:”

“NEW ORLEANS —This evening Trump rally has a bad vibe. Already a dozen angry protestors, many of them resisting and getting dragged out.”

“NEW ORLEANS — Never been at a Trump rally where protestors have been so disruptive, physical.”

“That was a tense rally. Scary at points.”

“Tense confrontations broke out at @realDonaldTrump’s rally in New Orleans moments ago.”

“NEW ORLEANS — Donald Trump’s campaign manager is having to personally escort out protestors at this rally.”

YouTube videos of protesters being ejected.

and

“Sign at Trump rally — “Trump Duke 2016” and “KKK 4 Trump””

“crowd here is angry. protester w KKK trump sign got it ripped away and then small fight ensued #trump”

“”This is a wild evening. This is one hell of a way to spend a Friday night,” Trump says, as yet another protestor gets hustled out.”

More from NBC’s Katy Tur via Twitter:

3 interruptions so far at Trump’s NOLA event. The crowd is deafening. Yells echoing thru the hangar as they turn against protestors.”

The thunderous echo in this airplane hangar is adding a new level of menace to the tone of tonight’s rally.”

A group of African American BLM protestors w their hands up standing their ground for ~10 mins. The crowd is getting vicious.”

Protestors now interrupting nearly every event. I’m told Trump team has added extra security for the crowd to throw out protestors.”

Trump camp brought back the candidate’s old security team (pre ss) to deal with the increasingly rowdy crowds.”

“BLM vs Security vs Crowd.”

A ray of hope was found in the crowd.

“Meet Nelson, dems’ worst nightmare: lifelong dem, marched w MLK, switched party 2 mos ago. Trump’s “struck a nerve.””

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Election Open Thread

Comments to Steve Sailer on Saturday’s elections:

* Traditional Republicans are uptight WASPs and Protestants who are mainly in the Midwest and West now and don’t find Trump, especially his style and demeanor, as appealing as Republicans in the South and Northeast do. Republicans in the South and Northeast today aren’t traditionally Republican. They’re traditionally Democratic and became Republican following the 60s and 70s. Trump does better with the latter Republicans and with Independents and disaffected nominal Democrats.

* Cruz over performs in low turnout caucuses. Trump is strong in the south, east, and rust belt, and probably the far west. This race is now down to Cruz vs Trump. Rubio and John have no chance after next Tuesday.

* USA Today Feb. 18, 2016: Cruz draws from married voters, evangelical Christians, the elderly and those who identify as “very conservative.” These folks might be angry about the political process, but their anger is ideological and their lives — filled with family and church — are fundamentally intact.

Trump’s voters, instead, wear an almost existential sense of betrayal. He relies on unmarried voters, individuals who rarely attend church services and those without much higher education. Many of these Trump voters have abandoned the faith of their forefathers and myriad social benefits that come with it. Their marriages have failed, and their families have fractured. The factories that moved overseas used to provide not just high-paying jobs, but also a sense of purpose and community. Their kids (and themselves) might be more likely to die from a heroin overdose than any other group in the country.

Cruz’s voters dislike Jeb Bush because he has strayed from conservative orthodoxy. Trump’s voters loathe Jeb Bush because their lives are falling apart, and they blame people like him.

* More-marginal Trump voters* who don’t have their lives together are less likely to have bothered to have gotten registered with a party, and are less likely to go to the trouble of caucusing. Think of them as the Republican party’s version of the Democrats’ poor Hispanic voters.

* It must be difficult to run against not only your opponents, but the entire media, entertainment, business, government, and academic establishments.

* If Trump loses the nomination he has only himself to blame. I fault him for two things.

He should have started behaving more like a president immediately after New Hampshire. Recent debates where he continues to call names and yell “Liar!” are raising real concerns about his self-control.

He needed to bone up on the issues, which some of thought he was going to do and it appears he did not. He doesn’t seem to fully understand his own position on immigration, for example. If a dummy like Rubio can memorize a bunch of facts and figures, Trump should be able to too. He’s still winging it.

* I don’t think the last debate helped Trump. I support Trump and enjoy watching his antics, but even I kind of grew tired of his obnoxiousness in the debate. In the earlier debates, there were more people debating so there were longer pauses in between Trump’s antics. But in the last one, it was relentless. It was embarrassing to watch and almost at Idiocracy levels. Also the last debate largely consisted of Cruz and Rubio constantly attacking Trump with things like Trump University, which doesn’t help.

* I love the armchair arbiters of decorum, with their criticism of Trump’s behavior as not being dignified enough. Few, if any men– especially alpha male ones– could withstand the dishonest attacks that Trump is receiving 24/7. One day of the attacks Trump is receiving and even Fred Rogers would be dropping f-bombs and throwing punches.

* Are you talking about the killing terrorists’ kin part? Because I agree with his idea for three reasons:

1. Knowing one’s kin are fair game would cause at least some would-be terrorists to think twice before terrorizing.

2. It would give kin incentive to stop terrorist kin at any cost. If I knew my brother’s crimes could get me killed I might kill my brother if he insisted on doing said crimes.

3. Kills lice while still nits. Cold af but war is hell. Dead kids don’t grow up to be terrorists.

* Relax. Trump’s pulling away in KY, will almost certainly romp in LA, a real primary. Looks solid in MI and MS on Tuesday. Massive early voting in OH and FL helps, in that Cruz already way behind in both and can’t easily catch up even with a surge.

Trump had a bad debate, needs to get some rest. He’s been going full bore almost 24/7 for the last two months facing off incoming from the entire GOP and media establishment. In retrospect, yes, he should have cancelled a rally or two — apparently he flew into the Thursday debate from Maine with no down time — and boned up on the issues. But he hasn’t had the time. This will all slow down after 3/15, and then he will have time to start listening to Sessions and Miller. I’m not giving up hope.

* Keep in mind the Kansas republican caucus picked Huckabee in 2008 with 59 percent of the vote. They picked Santorum in 2012 with 51 percent of their vote.

So Kansas is not exactly known for picking the eventual winner.

* Kentucky is meth country, so Trump should do well there and get the turnout he needs. And Louisiana is Duke territory, so Trump should also do well there.

* “I predict Trump will only win in Kentucky and Louisiana. ”

Why would he have been expected to win the caucuses? Those are Cruz voters. Anytime you have to publicly come in and support a candidate, the results are going to be skewed.

If Trump doesn’t win KY & LA, then be concerned. Otherwise, this is expected.

* Trump is a smart alpha male who leads from his gut. He goes in and out-alphas the opposition, and leaves his genius detail guys to mop up after his victory.

Trump can’t out-wonk Ted Cruz, but he can win the GOP debates as an alpha. Trump’s apparent flip-flopping is infuriating to us, but he’s out of his element in wonkville. That’s where Cruz can win.

Trump needs to convince voters that, yes he might mistakes on policy details because that’s not who he is, but detail-oriented voters can trust him because of his advisers.

* I hope Trump’s recent fumbling can just be put down to tiredness, he obviously needs a rest. He could have avoided the recent Fox debate through the same Megyn Kelly reason he employed before. He needs to stay the course. The only reason he is where he is, is because there are a lot of people who are fed up with political correctness and immigration (legal and illegal). Trump is a conduit for that frustration and if he thinks that he can turn off that spigot in order to entice the other side, all he will succeed in doing is causing his base to stay home. Dyed in the wool liberals already don’t trust him, he is not going to win them over.

The path to victory is to ride the wave of righteous anger, and embrace the Sailer Strategy right through to the end. Throw away the textbook that says pander to the base during the primaries and then betray the base during the general. If you get the white vote through tackling employment and standard of living concerns, you will pick up enough non-white votes simply because most everyone who votes in the USA has standard of living concerns that are impacted by immigration, even if it means that your other relatives may have to wait (permanently perhaps) to chain migrate.

* The alt-right is why Trump has gotten to where he is so far towards nomination. Even the NYT comments section tilts alt-right now. It’s not because our opinions aren’t popular. They are both popular and very strongly held. The anti-immigrationist right is coming to prominence all across the Eurosphere.

* It is remarkable that Cuban-Americans are only 0.1% of the American population, and yet there are not one but two Cuban-Americans vouching to become U.S president. That is remarkable. How formidable are Cuban-Americans? And how driven to power are they?

* Or maybe Trump needs to show he can build an organization to win where organizations are needed?

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The Erasing Of Tribal Identity

Interesting thread on Twitter:

Todd Gitlin: To Bay Area friends: I’ll be speaking on Jewish identity, courtesy the Berkeley Jewish Studies program…

Alan Neff: Shouldn’t that be Jewish “identities”? Owing to the fact that we have so many of them, one seems to undershoot the mark.

Casey: and really aren’t we all just humans and we can cut it out with tribal identities orrrrrrr…?

Alan Neff: That would be good.

Casey: Really? It seems “problematic” — it implies erasing existing tribal identities, like, say, “Jewish,” among others.

Alan Neff: You seem interested in taking my comment in a direction I did not intend, like toward another anti-semitic holocaust. Goodbye.

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CHILD ABUSE ALLEGATIONS PLAGUE THE HASIDIC COMMUNITY

Newsweek: While there is no evidence that child abuse is any more likely to occur in ultra-Orthodox schools than in public or secular institutions, stories like Reizes’s—an alleged abuser sheltered and victims unwilling to talk for fear of losing the only way of life they know—are common in the Hasidic school system. The many former students, advocates, sociologists, social workers and survivors interviewed by Newsweek, along with recordings, documents, public filings and personal emails that Newsweek obtained, place the blame on a confluence of factors: widespread sexual repression, a strong resistance to the secular world, and, most important, a power structure designed to keep people from speaking up about abuse.

Set on a leafy stretch of Eastern Parkway in Crown Heights, Oholei Torah is one of the most important institutions in the Chabad movement’s global yeshiva network and one of the largest of the dozens of Chabad schools in Brooklyn, with nearly 2,000 students at any given time. But stop any middle-school-age kid in the school’s hallways, and he—there are no female students—will likely know nothing of world history, won’t be able to do long division and will speak only rudimentary English—even though he’s growing up in the biggest city in the United States.

Oholei Torah conducts its seven-plus daily hours of religious lessons mostly in Yiddish. According to more than a dozen former students across three decades, it provides almost no lessons in science, math, English grammar or history. (The school did not respond to queries about its curriculum.) Many of these students go home to an apartment with no television, no Internet, no newspapers and no books except religious texts. Many will not gain the basic knowledge of how to navigate the world until they are married off around age 18, like how to write a check, how to order General Tso’s chicken or even what sex is. When you’re a child in this environment, you don’t question the fact that you can’t identify your own state on a map. And when you are molested, you don’t ask questions about that either.

In the ultra-Orthodox world, sexuality is simultaneously denied and monitored to the point of obsession. Starting in childhood, boys and girls are separated; the opposite gender remains a mystery until it’s time to marry, usually in an arranged pairing. Boys are taught to avoid looking at girls, while girls are taught that they are a source of sex and transgression, say former members of the Haredi, or ultra-Orthodox Jewish, community.

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