Luke Ford

Comments to Steve Sailer:

* PC has told us that it’s ‘racist’ when whites do it, but it’s NOT ‘racist’ when non-whites do it.

So, the same logic must apply. It is ‘antisemitic’ when whites do it, but it’s not ‘antisemitic’ when non-whites do it.

We’ve been told that the powerless cannot be ‘racist’. Only powerful and privileged whites can be ‘racist’. Well, since non-whites have no power and privilege(or so we’ve been told), they cannot be ‘antisemitic’. They are punching up, not punching down…. because we know ONLY WHITE PEOPLE can be powerful and privileged. Indeed, according to the likes of Zakaria, a West Virginia hillbilly living in a trailer has more privilege than the Zak-man or some affluent white Hispanic Cuban.

PS. Will Summers ever admit that all this ‘hypersensitivity’ was stoked by Jewish academics and activists to make non-whites hate whites? Well, too bad if non-whites(and guilt-ridden white Libs) see rich and powerful Jews as part of the white community and white problem.

* I read him as saying that free speech on campus is ideal, but given that it is now impossible – recall his defenestration over some harmless speculative remarks years ago, which you alluded to yourself – he just doesn’t want his people to end up on the “wrong side of history.”

I think he’d find your supposition that the climate of stifling PC thought-control can be overturned if a few more good men join the fight to be charmingly naive. Aside from his own saga, he’s witnessing Donald Trump being heralded almost literally as the second coming of Hitler, for making policy pronouncements that would not raise a Republican eyebrow in Eisenhower or Ford’s time (deport all the illegal aliens; States should have the power to criminalize abortion, etc.).

Now is the time for good men to go to ground, is the thinking. We’ll see how the year plays out; he may be right.

* Yes, but “anti-Whitism” isn’t even a word, so, according to Sapir-Whorf and the Newspeak Appendix to 1984, it can’t really exist in our heads as something to be concerned about.

* Jonathan Haidt seems to be an example of someone from this group, who’s clearly taking the high road on microagression culture.

* I’ve always thought that Orwell’s most penetrating insight ( a product, perhaps, of his journalistic background) involved the supreme utility of short, snappy phrases as a way to shape the thought patterns of the Outer Party: thoughtcrime, sexcrime, doublethink, etc.

Compare that to our current lexicon: Homophobia, transphobia, whitewashing, Orientalism, etc. There’s no need to go through a cumbersome explanation about why it is vastly evil to cast a European as an Egyptian. Just call it whitewashing, and the good-thinkers will respond appropriately….

* The problem is that the Israeli government engages in policies and actions that many — including many Jews — do not think are in the best interests of the Jewish people.

As a result there are going to be various motions, movements, and campaigns to influence the polices and actions of the Israeli government to get them to align with these other interests. This includes all sorts of things, including BDS. While it is true that some BDS advocates, perhaps many, want to see Israel “destroyed” (isn’t going to happen) the fact is that many people would like to see Israel change its policies, and to call that “anti-Semitic” is to say that criticism of the Israeli government, or campaigns to get that government to change its policies, are also “anti-Semitic.”

However, that reasoning doesn’t work, because if the Israeli government were to shift course (say, by evacuating Gaza or parts of the WB, as they have done in the past), people like Summers, regardless of how they might feel, would insist that any criticism of these new policies, or attempts to influence them, were also “anti-Semitic.”

If anything it reminds me of the logic of communists in the late ’30′s who were rabidly against Hitler, until the pact in August 1939, but then were OK with him, but then hated him again in June, 1941. That intelligent Jews cannot see how this is leading to cognitive dissonance and greater ultimate difficulties is beyond me.

The WAPO article had many comments, I note one Jewish American rebutted Summers, and questioned America’s undying fealty to Israel. He was promptly dismissed by another poster as a “self-hating Jew”. It’s the same thing as denouncing anti-Israel activity as “anti-Semitic.” And it is a similarly vacuous and unanswerable defamation designed to enforce unanimity, nothing more.

However the other point of this post, as per the supposed potential of eminent American Jews to change our national conversation about something: No. I think that is completely wrong-headed. I do believe American Jews have a lot of input on determining national attitudes about Israel and the Middle East generally. But not really about anything else.

Most of the Jews I know at this point in my life are extremely conservative, whether they are observant or not. We’ve been talking about America’s decline for decades. Nothing has changed.

* “Most of the Jews I know at this point in my life are extremely conservative, whether they are observant or not.”

80% of Jews voted for Obama, and 80% of Jews are for ‘gay marriage’.

Among Jewish elites, hostility to Obama is higher.

Jews are only conservative about Jewish power, identity, and nationhood.

* We need to push the idea, especially with Jews, that there are essentially two moral schemas.
Normal humans never advanced beyond tribalism, simple my word against yours, tiebroken by disproportionate genocidal centralized power. This is a result of quickly developing good centralized states.
(It also explains why high IQ peoples would be averse to science and achievement: hairy barbarians and Chinese in all dynasties have consistently opposite ideas about sticking one’s neck out. The Chinese Henry Ford has probably been born a million times, and always chose harmony. There can be no science without objective verifiable truth, and getting your truth from anywhere but the current administration in an Asian government is not bright.)
White people never got the hang of burying all living intellectuals alive, so we never had an Emperor Chin, and in fact we got to thinking that that sort of person was innately problematic. That’s not a result of superiority: we lucked into it through disorganization and violence. Part of the reason why is being universally armed barbarians who reject masters. One result of that pirate tavern situation is a morality that presupposes that we are still all armed and targeting any one person is a bad idea.
Tribalist morality has nothing like this. The numbers of the tribe or the good will of the overlord are the only protection, and genocide is very much among the active options at all times.
Jews need to get it into their heads that the best deal they ever got came from white Christians, and if they really want to discover how Yemenites learned to stoop their heads and not build their houses past a certain level, let them leave us for new Muslim masters — secular and equal are not among the diverse choices.
This is our selling point as whites: we can be wrong, which enables us to be truly right.

* Jews I know hate, hate, hate Trump. They hate him.
Some like Hillary. Some like Sanders. But most of them LOVE Israel. Sander’s ‘leftism’ doesn’t apply to Israel. No sirree. They are more rightwing about Israel than Pat Buchanan is about White America. But then Sanders himself is all gungho about Israel where he spent his kibbutzy days.

I’ve grown up with this Jewish Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde stuff all my life, so it never surprises me. The same Jewish guy who will bring up Jim Crow and them poor poor Negroes will say stuff like ‘those Arabs are savages, and they need a ruthless tyrant to keep them in place’. Some Jews I know did oppose the Iraq War but on those grounds. Arabs are savages and don’t deserve democracy and can’t handle it. But them poor poor Negroes down South denied of their rights…

I’m convinced that most Jews got double-track minds. It may be their nomadic wandering experience all over the world that made them think sort of funny in a dualistic way. Some Jews must be aware of the contradictions, but some seem totally blind to it. It’s like what Philip Weiss says about blinders on some Jews. I’ve encounted such mind-sets so often.

https://youtu.be/mnvlGNo4GKY?t=10m43s

It’s like that scene in HEARTBREAK KID about ‘there is no deceit in the cauliflower’. It’s hilarious because Grodin who is praising the lack of deception is full of deception. On one level, he knows he’s pulling a shtick, yet, on another level, it’s like he really takes to heart the BS he’s peddling. He believes in the con.
Watching that scene was like dejavu and I kept thinking I swear I know someone on some occasion like that; I’ve been through this scene before. And it finally hit me! My sister is married to a Triber and he came visiting and the dinner table conservation was so much like that scene. He is praising my parents food, and it sounds so triber-ish. My parents being rather naive about such talk were falling for the BS like knife cutting through butter. They are beaming with pride that my sis is married to such a wonderful guy… But I, knowing these folks better, felt more like the ‘brick wall’ dad peering into that ‘new york head’ of his. It’s a kind of state-of-the-art BS you don’t find in most ethnic groups.

When I’m with most ethinc groups, I’m dealing with one-track minds. With Jews, it’s two-or-three track minds. There are more layers of meaning. No deceit in the cauliflower.

* I was in France during the “Merkel Boner” last year, hosted by a Jewish family I have known for a few years. They are reasonably wealthy (certainly by French standards), quite well educated and I wouldn’t say terribly politically correct. The husband thought that importing these Syrians could be a real problem. When I pushed him, he thought they ought to be kept out. The wife (who acknowledged that Muslims had made parts of Paris and other cities off limits for Jews) was ranting against the Hungarians for being “utter fascists.” Then 13 November happened and I was on my way to Dubai for a holiday. I called to check how they were doing. She was ranting against the Terrorists calling them “dumb” but yet no acknowledgement that they were invited by her “line of thinking” in the first place.

I met them again recently, and she wanted ALL North African and Arab Muslims in France deported if they also had Algerian/Moroccan/Syrian passports. I was almost stunned. But anyway, they were packing off to Israel.

Jewish women (or all Western women these days?) are hyper-emotional, with far too much desire to dominate everything and are simply unsuited for politics. I would extend that to say that any society that puts women at the centre of the decision-making process is going to become extinct. There is a reason why every society on earth traditionally (until the 20th century) had men run politics and women run the household. Unfortunately, Western men have become as bad as the women these days.

* Yiddisher kop trumps goyisher kop every time, honed through centuries of hustling Slav peasants.

* a) Jews are not a minority in Israel, but rather 80% and growing. South African whites could not avoid the demographic writing on the wall, but in Israel Jews are the demographic writing on the wall.

b) Israel has a prominent position in the global high-tech economy whereas South Africa was primarily a natural resource exporter. Natural resources get taken out of the ground no matter who is in charge, but if Jews leave Israel the Google and Intel and other research campuses there, will close, and hundreds of billions of dollars of investment will be lost.

c) In spite of the endless banal and intellectually dishonest claims, Israel does not practice apartheid. Given that any visit to Israel or footage out of Israel shows Arabs, Druze, Circassians and other minorities attending the same universities, shopping at the same malls, going to the same beaches, and receiving the same social benefits as Jews, making the apartheid claim stick with anyone beyond the antisemitic far left or far right is a non-starter.

d) In spite of the fantasies of Western leftists (and far rightists) the “Palestinian” Arabs are a bunch of tribes, sects, and families who absolutely hate each other. They can’t even run a partial government completely supported by international welfare. They are simply unable to take out a modern sophisticated nation-state and win.

* Black contempt for Jews is mostly visceral. Contrast with their favorite type of white person: the gregarious, smooth-talking good ole’ boy Southerner (e.g., Bill Clinton, so beloved by blacks that they transfer their loyalty to his ultra-WASPy, totally unlikeable ice queen of a wife). That, historically speaking, Jews have been good to blacks and Southerners have mostly oppressed blacks matters not at all; the typical neurotic and physically unimpressive Jew is repellent to black sensibilities, regardless of what Jews as a group have done for the civil rights movement or racial integration.

[Genc Newman: Bernie gets most of his support from white college students, as opposed to Hillary who has been beating Bernie in all states with the most concentration of African Americans. Luke is mostly right in his observation. Look at the nation of Islam as a good indicator. Most African Americans sympathize with Farrakhan, even though the majority do not live a spartan life as do its most hardcore members that attend his sermons. Only the Talented Ten, the top ten percent ( a lot of mulattoes) , who are really talented, have a special relationship with the Jews. The talented ten is not big enough to pull the rest of their community up, instead it prefers to live away from them, albeit keeping the embers of the struggle glowing as a way to legitimize their stranglehold on them, knowing that it is an impossible task to integrate them in the society. W. E. B. Du Bois knew this and explicitly said it at a time when political correctness did not exist. One does not need someone to state the obvious. What is needed is a pair of eyes and honesty in reporting the observations. Causal analysis is a different thing, but as in science, one must first start with observation and then tentative explanations. Political correctness has restricted consciousness to such a degree that even observation that does not fit their rigid ideology is not permitted, thus pre-selecting the premise upon which the entire edifice of the egalitarian dogma rests.]

* Dear Jew,

So, spending the last half century suppressing identity politics among White males, while simultaneously promoting identity politics among everyone else, isn’t working out like you had hoped? Man, I really feel bad about that. Who could have foreseen that there might be drawbacks?

[Genc Newman posts on my FB page: This is a little too much and not entirely backed by facts. I believe it was Bertrand Russell, the non-Jewish, British philosopher, amongst many other non Jews, who, in an essay on Karl Marx, proclaiming that the latter’s motivations about his theory were based on hate (which is bullshit and everyone knows that no matter how faulty, dialectical materialism is just another method of rational inquiry, but i am not going into details now) and to stop the spread of communism in the third world, the Western Countries should voluntarily withdraw their armies, grant them independence and apologize to them. It is a well known fact how the mostly WASP American establishment at the time, granted many civil rights to racial minorities to mitigate the Soviet threat domestically and internationally. It is true that most Jews that arrived in America before WWII, were philosophically aligned with the left wing, but so were many other poor emigrants that fought fiercely to elevate their economic status in a time where workers did not have the same protection from the employers as they do today; at a time when strikers were being shot by the police. This is not a conspiracy. Most of the current multicultural mess, is due to concessions made by the system to minimize resentment and halt the proliferation of communist ideas. This is the reason that the old left lost their power amongst the native proletarians , since the system made many concessions to meet the demands of the workers, which resulted in an unprecedented affluence after WWII. The identity politics became more intense after the collapse of the Soviet Union, which coincided with Globalization..the Empire phase of a civilization and new markets were being sought. One needs to do business with the Arabs and the third world, so it is prudent to appease, instead of antagonizing them. Hard colonialism was replaced by a more cost effective neo-imperialism, which is wreaking havoc on the Wests, as backlash from the former colonies is on the rise; their preferred weapon being demographic replacement. Even if the western leaders did not like such an arraignment, they were forced to do so, not by the Jewish mafia , motivated by hate of the gentiles , as some lunatic conspiracy theorists claim, but by the exigencies of preserving an economic system that is in constant need of expansion.

The Jews are very business astute. They are very intelligent and because of the pressure that is put to them by their families and community, they tend to excel in school, thus achieving an ever higher social status. The system as i explained above, as its modus operandi, is in constant need of expansion i.e. maximizing the profit and finding markets. If it happened that the Arabs, the Chinese or anyone else for that matter, were disproportionately represented in the highest echelons of decision making, their decisions would be dictated only by the logic of the system. It just happened, that in a particular historical time, the Jews, as a result of their obsession with social status, but most importantly their capability to achieve it ( let’s be frank, almost everyone is obsessed with social status..the power drive, albeit in different doses, is present in all humans. The Jews , happened to meet all the requisite criteria to materialize their power drive, unlike many others who only desire , but lack the discipline and motivation to do so. ) Capitalism is inherently not racist and does not allow personal feelings in its cold logic of maximizing profits. Had another group been at the top in relatively overwhelming numbers ( in sheer numbers Jews are not the majority, maybe in Hollywood, but not in business. How many WASPS like Bill Gates and Warren Buffet you have in the almost 550 billionaires in America..plenty) , the cold logic of the capitalism, the need to find markets and maximize profit would have guided their decisions as well. This is the reason that many billionaires and business leaders across the world, hailing from different cultures and races, cooperate together in the global framework, even though on an individual basis they might hate or despise each other because of their race, religion and culture. Their universal language, la lingua franca is money, which is a much stronger bond than any racial, cultural or religious could ever be.

Reading history, from authoritative sources, literature, philosophy and objective observation of human psychology, it is a well established fact that every civilization so far has gone through a series of stages and when it entered its mercantilist phase, a period of expansion and empire building , it became multicultural and cosmopolitan by necessity. One cannot blame the Jews for the decline and fall of the Ancient Civilizations. You cannot blame the Jews for the decline and fall of ancient Greece, Ancient Rome and so on. Many historians disagree on the particulars , but when it comes to the general trends as to the causes of the decline and fall of civilizations , they more or less agree and only lunatics that believe in conspiracy theory, believing that Jews consume mono atomic gold to live forever grin emoticon are responsible for the decline and subsequent fall of every civilization.]

* Another pattern to keep in mind is that extremely rich Jews tend to become more pro-Israel over the years, perhaps for internal psychological reasons, perhaps just because they get worn down by targeted recruitment. For example, Haim Saban’s recent annual fundraiser for the IDF in Beverly Hills had a couple of first time donors writing 7-8 figure checks: Michael Dell and Larry Ellison. Those are pretty good gets.

So, it’s not just the distribution of views toward Israel of American Jews in general that matters, it’s the views of the massive donors at the top.

* “69% of Jews voted for Obama, 30% voted for Romney. If the Orthodox keep growing at the same pace (4+ children vs. secular Jews below 2), Jews will be as conservative as Mormons in 50-75 years.”

So, 69% of Jews voted for a leftist Senator, who had massive backing from Wall Street, who delivered government mandated healthcare, and who was supportive of Israel, while 30% of them voted for a Governor of a leftist state, who had considerable backing from Wall Street, who delivered government mandated healthcare, and who is very, very supportive of Israel.

Thanks for clearing up the enormous difference there.

* “The sight of Israeli soldiers breaking the arms and legs of Arabs is reprehensible” and “must be condemned,” Sanders said. A few months later, Sanders went further: “The policy that Israelis shoot people is unacceptable. It is wrong that the United States provides arms to Israel,” he declared, according to a local newspaper account at the time.

That is from Politico. I would call that “ambivalent”, even “hostile.” Or were you waiting for a call to actually destroy Israel? I never said he was insane and genocidal.

* Jews are hated because they’re richer, smarter, but still beta people. Black and Hispanics can’t stand it when someone who’s not an alpha is higher than they are on the social totem pole despite their extreme cults of machismo, which they think should land them the alpha spot.

[Paul Ciotti: I think there is a lot of resentment when blacks go to take an employment test. The black male comes (stages an entrance sometimes). He’s confident, relaxed, dominant and the women all notice him. The whites in the room are nerdy, lack confidence, suffer from dandruff and couldn’t pick up a girl if they were the last man on earth. Yet a month later the test results come out and the nerdy white guy is at the head of the pack (and thus the employment list) by a LOT. It makes no sense to the black. He thinks it had to be racially biased tests. Same thing for those black students protesting Halloween costume racism at Yale. They are struggling to keep up because they are attending one of the best schools in the country while their classmates seem so competent, so well informed, so casual about the tests that they ace without trying. Naturally the black protesters think it’s institutional racism. What else could it be?

* Third World Muslim immigrants to Europe or the United States become more radical the longer they live here. They see they can’t compete in school or in employment and it fills them with resentment.Some societies should simply live apart. No one who comes here is coming because he believes in Jeffersonian democracy. He’s coming for the benefits. The rest just runs off his back.]