Are Jews Waiting For The Messiah?

Marc B. Shapiro writes:

In response to R. Bergman’s point, about the need to actively wait for the Messiah, R. Steinman replies that no one fulfills this, namely, no one is really waiting for the Messiah. My understanding of what he said is that no one is consciously focusing on, and anxiously awaiting, the Messiah’s arrival. They believe that the Messiah will come, but in the meantime they are learning Torah and doing mitzvot and when he comes, he comes, but until then Jews have plenty to do to keep themselves busy.

R. Bergman is surprised by R. Steinman’s comment and states that the Rambam says that if one does not wait for the Messiah he is a heretic, to which R. Steinman repeats his earlier point that no one does this. Upon being questioned again, R. Steinman replies that this is a “decree that the community cannot follow.” He adds that people say that the Chafetz Chaim “waited” for the Messiah. “Maybe yes, I don’t know. This is what they say, maybe yes.” R. Steinman then adds that the Chafetz Chaim was unique, but the Torah was not given just for such special people.[4]

R. Steinman’s statements are quite provocative, first, because he expresses uncertainty if the Chafetz Chaim can really be said to have actively waited for the Messiah, and second, because he makes it clear that the other great rabbis did not really wait for the Messiah. It would have been controversial enough if all he said was that he himself, or the people of this generation, do not really wait for the Messiah, but he applied this statement also to great ones of previous generations.

As the conversation continues, R. Bergman insists that waiting for the Messiah is one of the Thirteen Principles, and that in earlier times people indeed did wait for the Messiah. R. Steinman replies that in earlier days the Jews suffered greatly and that is why they had a focus on the Messiah…

R. Yechezkel Sofer… states that one is not a heretic if he is lacking an emotional connection to the coming of the Messiah. The problem is only if one develops an intellectual position that there is no reason to wait for the Messiah. R. Sofer adds, however, that from a hasidic perspective a higher level of “waiting” is required, which he acknowledges not everyone is capable of.

I think R. Steinman can be explained very simply, that despite what the Rambam says, it is difficult for virtually anyone to be emotionally invested in the coming of the Messiah, and thus have a sense of waiting for him, especially waiting constantly (every day) which is how the Principle is formulated in the siddur. R. Steinman was saying, what is the point of speaking about something which hardly anyone can fulfill? At the end of the day, it is enough to believe in the coming of the Messiah without adding anything else to this basic belief…

R. Avraham Yehoshua Soloveitchik defended R. Steinman…thinking about the Messiah is not something that needs to be at the top of our concerns. Using Scholem’s terminology, we can say that R. Soloveitchik’s approach is that of neutralization of the messianic impulse…

Whatever you may think of R. Soloveitchik’s words, I don’t know how to square them with what his grandfather, R. Isaac Zev Soloveitchik (the Brisker Rav), is quoted as saying, that not only must we await the Messiah every day, but we must do so the entire day and every instant…

A person says that he would prefer that the Messiah not come in the near future, but only in a few years as he will by then have completed study of the entire Talmud, and will be more prepared to greet the Messiah. Nevertheless, this person knows that God does not take into account his wishes, and he believes that the Messiah can come at any instant. R. Shulzinger says that this person has not violated Maimonides’ Principle. In other words, the Principle requires the belief that the Messiah will come, and can come at any instant. Yet it does not require you to actually desire the Messiah’s arrival. Thus, to give a different example than that offered by R. Shulzinger, if someone has a very good business in the Diaspora, it could be that while he believes in the coming of the Messiah, he does not actually want this to happen, because he thinks that after the Messiah’s arrival all Jews will have move to Israel, and he does not want to give up his thriving business. According to R. Shulzinger, these sentiments would not be in contradiction to Maimonides’ principle…

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Election Meltdown 2020

00:00 Steve Bannon talks to pollster Rich Barris
19:00 Darren Beattie on our color revolution
30:00 Rick Hasen, law professor, on election meltdown
45:00 Dooovid, Rodney Martin join
1:46:00 Patrick Basham comments on the election
2:00:00 Mike Enoch on Twitter censorship of Holocaust denial
2:03:00 Jimmy Dore on the election
2:08:00 Law professor Thane Rosenbaum on Trump’s legal challenges to the election
2:17:30 Newsmax: Judge Jeanine’s Show Cancelled Tonight After They Found She Was Going to Report on Fraud
* Election Law Blog
* The Myth of Voter Fraud
* Election Meltdown: Dirty Tricks, Distrust, and the Threat to American Democracy
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Election 2020 (11-6-20)

00:00 Rodney Martin joins
13:00 Daniel Natal: The Last Stretch Toward The Election, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYv_lOdGC3M
20:00 Five Dollars and a Pork Chop Sandwich: Vote Buying and the Corruption of Democracy
22:00 DHS cyber agency invests in election auditing tool to secure 2020 elections
57:00 Alex Jones joins the fight
1:08:00 Matt Christman (Chapo Trap House) on the election
1:15:30 Former Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich (D) says stealing elections is a “time honored tradition” in big Democrat run cities like Philly
1:18:00 Bernie Sanders Predicted The Election Night Result Weeks Ago
1:25:00 The Missing White Vote In Wisconsin Lost Trump The State
1:28:00 David Cole on sexual impropriety in Hollywood
1:41:00 Recounts and Canvasses are Unlikely to Reverse Contaminated Vote; Republicans Must Seek Relief in State Legislatures
1:45:00 The Vote Has Been Hopelessly Contaminated. Republican State Legislatures Must Now Move to Appoint Pro-Trump Electors.
1:45:30 Babs discusses Michael Lind’s concept of rooted people vs cosmpolitans
2:02:00 NPI Conference vs AFPAC : Roosh V
2:10:00 Colin Liddell joins
Meet the Jewish Democrat at Fox News’ ‘decision desk,’ the man who called Arizona for Biden early

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Why Did Rabbi Boruch Sufrin Suddenly Leave Hillel Harkham Hebrew Academy Last Week?

His name has been removed from Hillel’s website. He was not expecting this dismissal. I keep hearing there’s a great story here. I assume he did something ill advised with his secretary or something.

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Election 2020

00:00 Joe the Boomer joins
02:00 Voter fraud
25:00 The Pope, Vatican and civil unions
1:21:00 Executive Order on Imposing Certain Sanctions in the Event of Foreign Interference in a United States Election
1:23:00 State legislators decide electors
1:48:00 Michael Anton: Game on for the Coup
2:00:00 Ruston calls to ask how likely is it that Trump wins?
2:31:45 Tucker Carlson

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Predictions

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Will Trump Win In The Courts?

A friend says: Trump does not need the Courts to declare anything. He merely needs enough legal disputes, to run the clock into December. The Constitution says in case of election disputes that bar automatic determination of Electors, the State Legislatures will determine the respective State Electors. The State Legislatures of AZ, PA, MI are all GOP, they can name Electors.

Think about your own areas of expertise. Does everything get done by the book or do things often get done by a wink and a nod? Laws matter, but all laws are enforced by people. You want the people in power on your side no matter the law.

CNN reported Sept. 4, 2020:

Maybe the Supreme Court will step in, as it did in Bush v. Gore, and award the presidency to Trump or Biden before December 8. But we shouldn’t count on it. And, if not, there’s a process for what comes next.

Just six days after the safe harbor date, on December 14, the members of the Electoral College meet in their respective states. But there could be disputes about who those electors are. Imagine if in Michigan, for example, Trump is ahead in ballots received by Election Day, but that counting ballots that arrive after Election Day would give Biden the win. The Michigan Secretary of State, a Democrat, might certify a Biden win, naming a Biden slate of electors. The Republican legislature might purport to overrule that certification and name a Trump slate of electors, even though, under state law, it has no authority to do this.

This scenario with competing slates of electors has happened before, on a large scale in 1876, in the race for president between Rutherford B. Hayes and Samuel Tilden, where Republicans and Democrats in key states submitted competing slates of electors. In 1960, Hawaii submitted two sets of electors, and members of the Florida legislature contemplated submitting a competing slate of electors in the 2000 election. Even if competing slates of electors aren’t submitted, there may still be disputes about whether the single slate of electors submitted by a state is valid, likely because of allegations of fraud or other irregularities…

What if, because there is a tie or because Congress decides to not recognize any slate of electors from some states, neither candidate gets a majority of electoral votes? Then, under the 12th Amendment, the House decides the president and the Senate decides the vice president. The House vote is taken by state, so each state has one vote. Right now, even though Democrats have a majority in the House, Republicans control a majority of state delegations. If the composition of the House stays the same, and if members all vote along party lines, the House would almost assuredly elect Trump as president. If the Senate composition stays the same, a party line vote would mean Mike Pence as vice president; if Democrats take control, it would be Kamala Harris.

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Election Analysis (11-4-20)

00:00 Luke’s opening monologue
25:00 Rodney Martin joins
35:00 Dooovid joins
1:32:00 My blogger escort service
1:47:00 Mersh vs Richard Spencer
1:48:00 Dick Masters
2:02:10 Adam Green disavows Donald Trump
2:10:00 Nick Fuentes INTERVIEWS Sam Hyde (Election Night)
2:17:00 Michelle Malkin talks to Darren Beattie about a color revolution in America
3:01:00 Tucker Carlson

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Live Election Coverage

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Live Election Analysis

00:00 You can’t bet on Trump to way straight up on PredictIt
02:00 Hostages held in Vienna
04:00 Robert Barnes, Richard Baris on the latest polls, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0poheg6812Q
25:40 Federal bureaucrats caught on camera planning coup against Trump
1:27:00 History of election cheating in Pennsylvania
1:28:00 Pollster Robert Cahaly of the Trafalgar Group
1:42:00 What If Trump Didn’t Quit After Losing?, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpUnahi8Dqk
1:49:00 Donald Trump: What Happened, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjYvpwkJ-Tc
1:55:00 Democrats get last-minute election jitters, https://spectator.us/democrats-2020-biden-election-jitters/
2:15:30 Tucker Carlson

00:00 Tucker Carlson live on the election
04:00 Barnes and Baris Pre-Election Special: What Are the Odds?
08:00 Terror attack against Jews in Vienna

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