Comments to Steve Sailer:
* Ta is a pretty terrible writer, and I suspect he is thoroughly edited to get as readable as he is. To get a sense of Ta’s intellect, watch the bloggingheads he did with McWhorter. It’s really funny to watch McWhorter brutalize him verbally while Ta has that dazed-in-the-ring look that apparently never leaves him.
* I feel sorry for TN Coates as I believe he is suffering from PTSD after his childhood in a black neighborhood. PTSD explain his paranoia and distorted irrational world view such as his obsession with supposed “white violence” against “black bodies”.
I try to understand him, and the only case he can make is that america’s tendency of racial segregation force sensitive non violent black boys like him to live with violent blacks. I see it here in NY with the children of African immigrants who have to live in the Bronx as their parents are poor and can’t afford any other neighborhood. They were endlessly bullied by their classmates to turn “ghetto” (and to the dismay of their parents they do). To be poor and black in america is to be violent or to invite black violence.
Coates is bitter and angry because White people forced him to live with violent Blacks because they don’t want to live with Blacks.
* The quality of our white national opinion journalists is very low. The majority of them were supporters of the completely insane (and disastrous) Iraq War. They also have been huge supporters of free trade, immigration, financialization, ruinous levels of public spending, and other absurd policies.
“Iraq has weapons of mass destruction.”
“Wall-Street bankers are job creators.”
“Immigrants do jobs Americans won’t do.”
“We need a guest-worker program to alleviate worker shortages.”
“NAFTA created jobs.”
“Israel is our most loyal ally.”
“Obama threw Israel under the bust.”
When that constitutes the mainstream of American thinking, what does that say about our intelligentsia?
Coates deserves all the criticism directed at him, but the quality of his thought is not particularly bad in comparison to his fellow writers.
* John Derbyshire said it best:
For many American blacks, especially elite blacks like the Obamas, nothing exists outside their own blackness. Their blackness is endlessly interesting, endlessly fascinating to them. They can never get enough of thinking about it, talking about it, reading and writing about it.
If they write a book, it’s about their blackness: Barack Obama’s Dreams from My Father, for example. If they write a college paper, it’s about their blackness: Mrs Obama’s Princeton thesis, for example, the seven words of whose title contain the word “black” twice. If they read a book, it’s about blackness. I’ve spent many, many hours riding the New York subway. Sitting next to a black person who’s reading a book, I take a peek: two times out of three it’s some black author writing about blackness.
Black black blackety-blackety-black. It fills their consciousness and absorbs their attention. What on earth must it be like to so trapped like that, such a prisoner of your own skin? I can’t imagine. I guess, just as the T-shirt slogan says: It’s a black thing; I wouldn’t understand.
MORE COMMENTS TO STEVE SAILER:
* Blacks are framing things all wrong with this talk of “reparations”. What’s obvious is that after blacks get paid, say a year or two down the road, once all the money is blown, the same discussions will just recommence anew, in a never-ending cycle of bitch-festing.
On the other hand what many whites could buy into is the concept of alimony and divorce. For this to happen, the Malcolm X Society’s concept of an independent Republic of New Afrika (RNA) in the south of the US needs to be dusted off. Many, many whites would pay dearly to help blacks “move out” of the US and start their own country.
A few ground rules though. At least 80% of blacks would have to agree to relocate to the RNA. Once gone, there is no right to return although tourist visas are possible. Using the recent flood of African “refugees” to Europe as a lesson, obviously a real tall and secure border will need to be built. But this can be justified as a way to protect blacks from whites. Yes whites living in what will become the RNA will have to be cleared out although volunteers will be allowed to stay in the new black utopia. Progressives and SJW’s from the big cities will also be encouraged to relocate to the RNA; something tells me very few will answer this call. And for the blacks who decide to stay in the US they will have to swear an oath to stop bitching about race on the pain of being deported to the RNA in case they ever do start whining again.
The RNA would be independent and free from whitey. The RNA can have a central bank, its own currency (on the banknotes they could replace dead Presidents with retired cornerbacks for example). The US could agree to make generous payments for say 20 years to get the RNA up and running. After that though the RNA is on its own.
Surely once free from the oppressive jackboot of whitey, the RNA will be a prosperous country that in its turn will attract plenty of the world’s refugees.
* Why not institute your plan but make it Back to Africa? The president of Senegal said at the time of the Haitian earthquake, any Blacks who want to, can come back to Senegal and be given free land.
* American politics, and indeed the politics of America emulators such as Britain’s disgusting New Labour, are defined by one overriding animus and one overriding animus only. Which is an alliance of ‘oppressed’ minorities attacking and destroying white men.
Needless to say white women are major players in this enterprise, perhaps not providing the leadership, that’s a black thing for sure, but in terms of providing the sheer numbers.
In fact it’s the wish fulfillment of human evolutionary history’s deepest seated, strongest and most instinctually held grudge on behalf of white women – the final and ultimate triumph of the yoni over the phallus. As animal and elemental as the dawn of life itself.
With their joyous enthusiasm in allying themselves against white men and having the final, overall, epochal ‘victory’ in their sights, paradoxically, white women are making the biggest mistake ever.
* If RiRi thinks she can take my money, what little there is if it, she ought to put down the crack pipe. Maybe Chris Brown hit her upside the head too many times.
Yes, a spoiled, rich Black woman with a taste for thugs and a 85, being generous, IQ screaming at White America to hand over the money?
Trump just went up two points.
* Rihanna could have hired a couple of illegal Mexicans with criminal records to do the heavy lifting for her.
Considering how America’s black population has turned several formerly thriving white American cities into movie sets for the zombie apocalypse, I think blacks collectively owe the white population reparations for all the property values they have destroyed. We really should stop coddling and enabling these people.
* To me in a sane society really requires only five or six key attributes
a) there are borders
b) the successful majority race\civilization does not pander to any minority, much less a civilizationally disfunctional and more primitive one
c) men and women are understood to be different and being wives and mothers is the most important thing women do
d) having children and passing on our genes and culture is the most important activity society needs to make work; and we want the best, smartest, healthiest men and women to be doing it, and the incompetent not to be doing it
e) we value and celebrate the productive, righteous and decent, and don’t hold up, rent-seeking, rip-offs nor the disordered and depraved for anything but disapproval
f) criminals belong in jail or exile, without excuses
g) gay means light-hearted and carefree and a rainbow–what you get when the sun follows a rain shower–is pretty
* The plain truth is that the biggest beneficiaries of African slavery are American blacks. They not only a) physically exist because of it, but b) slavery has allowed them live in a white civilized society with both rule-of-law and material conditions far, far, far above what blacks are able to achieve in in Africa–even with the benefit of western knowledge, science, medicine, technology.
The whole slave trade was a disaster for whites and especially for indigenous American tribes, while it was an absolute boon for blacks. Blacks had an incredible demographic expansion, that was completely unearned. They expanded demographically without winning wars, without conquest, and without the slightest ability–technological or organizational to do so. But rather simply by being enslaved and sold to white people.
The Atlantic slave trade was indeed white people’s worse crime. But not for the reasons we hear about all the time–suffering, oppression, etc. etc.–bad stuff for sure, but stuff that’s just routine in human history. Rather the great crime is that whites enabled a huge unearned demographic expansion of an uncivilized backward people. Really a crime against civilizational progress.
* American culture used to emphasize to blacks that they should act deferential, which was humiliating because blacks aren’t a naturally deferential race like Mexicans, Asians, Filipinos, or Indians/Paks. Now American culture (primarily rap and hip hop) teaches blacks that they should act angry and savage. When blacks adapt to that type of behavior, they get a lot of respect, applause (Americans love 50 Cent rapping about getting shot), and even women. Unfortunately, they also end up killing each other a lot and terrorizing each other frequently.
America could start emphasizing proper behavior to blacks again, but won’t. It’s not just PC. It’s also because whites (and all the other races) love seeing blacks acting bad. It thrills them to see blacks acting violently in sports, music, and celebrity feuds. If blacks started acting like Chinese tomorrow, life would be so much more boring. In modern day America, people crave entertainment, so America is cool with blacks acting bad.
* Rap videos and hip hop culture are basically a minstrel show. It’s a minstrel show that allows people of all races (not just blacks) to have fun. Watching blacks act bad on tv is the equivalent of Romans cheering on gladiatorial barbarism. It’s immature and vulgar, but it’s what the people want.
Many whites tolerate the bad behavior on tv not out of a sense of guilt, but because a lot of them love it. That’s not to say that PC doesn’t matter at all, but it’s an oversold factor.
There’s a difference between entertainment and real life. In the entertainment industry, bad behavior is funny. In real life, most people won’t tolerate bad behavior because it’s not very entertaining to be victimized. Which is why whites will tolerate hip hop savagery on tv, but want strict policing in real life.
The typical white wants entertaining blacks on tv, but wants tough police to keep his suburban/rural/gentrified neighborhood safe. Our present day system (blacks get to act bad on tv, get police in their face in real life) is a reflection of what the average American wants (and what businessmen can make money off).
The downside to the system is that a lot of blacks take the hip hop stuff too seriously and embrace the thug life, which has serious consequences for them and their communities. Of course, it’d be unfair to say that whites are forcing blacks to act this way. Given how many blacks embrace hip hop and how muted criticism is among black leaders, it’d seem that they’re not particularly uncomfortable with the affect of hip hop on black communities.
