* Muslim Mass Migration: Is It Good for the Jews?
* There was never any Jewish conspiracy to bring hordes of hostile Nazi-Muslims to Europe and the US. That comes from the cultural marxism that developed out of Protestant views, which Jews in the US and Canada adopted as they rose up the social ladder. The Protestant elites already had this insane opinion, all this equality love and happiness crap isnt from Judaism, thats for sure. Note how absolutely zero of the Jewish descent individuals involved in cultural marxism are in any sense religious. They are all atheists, well, not quite. They believe in marxism.
But the idea expounded by many altright readers that Jews are trying to destroy Europe is utterly ridiculous. Why would Jews bring about their own certain doom?
* Leftist loudmouths who just happen to be Jewish are not representative of Jews in general.
Most Jews who’ve thought about immigration probably agree with Steve, VDare, and so forth, but we don’t control the megaphone.
* The Nazis kept people in ghettos/concentration camps and prevented them from escaping. These migrants are free to leave. The door is right there. Give them a complimentary gift basket.
Mr. Orban and other smart Europeans are trying to keep the opportunistic migrants away from their country. Most people do not want them there. Just like the Israelis don’t want people sneaking into their country.
* A person wishing to save Europe must say: The Muslims are the New Nazis, complete fascists. They hate Christians, Jews, independent women, free speech and representative democracy and believe in religious apartheid. They rape. We must protect ourselves against these fascists. Those words throw the left off. It will not do any good at all to say these people are uneducated and unintelligent. That is drawing a distinction between humans that is verbotten to them. What will do good to attack them relentlessly on their own ground. Do not be afraid to speak of the more repulsive fascistic aspects of Islam. Keep out the Nazis, Keep out the fascists.
* The problem is that for many Jews being part of the good whites (as Derbyshire would refer to it) is just too large an element of their identity. I think as the left becomes more actively anti-semitic through the BDS movement and other anti colonial therefore anti western groups (think La Raza) and starts harassing Jews more this will slowly change. Even my mom a nice Jewish white lady who taught in ghetto schools for over 30 years while never losing her faith in FDR liberalism has started agreeing with me that allowing in more Muslims may not be good for the Jews.
* The elites are conducting a war with their respective nation’s citizens but because it was undeclared, we did not notice.
* Jews, in their obsession with race, perceive European men to be stronger competitors than Arab men and other groups. They may be right: Behold European achievement, creativity, prosperity, athleticism, cooperativeness.
* This is where a Donald Trump in power would do some good, both in the USA and in every European nation. The media is just using the same game plan they and SJWs have been using for years. They push an agenda, tar opponents as racists and wait for their opponents to apologize and dutifully lie down.
But Trump has shown how to handle them. Stand up for your beliefs and don’t apologize. Just look at how Trump handled Jorge Ramos. Ramos tried to grandstand and shame Trump into accepting the prevailing ideology, and Trump would have nothing of it. Though the media protested and thought it was a “gotcha” moment for Trump, the man on the street was solidly behind Trump. There are reports that even Latinos approved of the way Trump handled himself.
Right now Europe needs a Trump to say enough is enough. I don’t know if the Hungarian guy is the one. But they need a strong, confident authority figure to stand up to this madness. I am sure the European populace is waiting for such leadership. The SJWs and MSM are paper tigers. They point and sputter and make a lot of noise. And most people are readily intimidated. But I think that is the extent of it. We just need more guys like Trump to show the masses there is nothing to fear from standing up to them.
* As a student Victor Orban risked his own life confronting tanks in Budapest and made a speech in Hero’s Square which played a leading role in the downfall of communism. He has five children and unlike most European “Christians” he actually bothers to go to Mass regularly.
He, frankly, is the closest thing to a hero that sad pathetic continent has.
* T.S. Eliot: “What is still more important [than cultural homogeneity] is unity of religious background, and reasons of race and religion combine to make any large number of free-thinking Jews undesirable.”
* Answer: No.
But the Jews as Sailer have put it are too busy fighting the last war to notice the new enemy that just walked in the front door and now is in the living room and is ready to pull out a blade.
Their hatred blinds them just like it does the socialists, feminists, gays, assorted freaks and radical atheists in Europe. Often times you find them at the forefront of open border movements and protests designed to silence those who resist it.
They too will find themselves as targets of Muslims and will be cut down as well.
All will get their just rewards for high treason against their people and culture.
* Jews bring up their kids to believe the majority population hate them and want to kill them and this works as a group cohesion technique but also makes them paranoid.
So their paranoia about the majority leads them to try and weaken the majority and so they support mass immigration including Muslim immigration until a tipping point is reached where paranoia about Muslims outweighs paranoia about Euros.
This process of flipping started quite a while ago so who knows what the percentages are now but there’s a second aspect which is the people at the top of the totem pole will feel the heat last which means any tipping point will require a majority weighted to the top third rather than an absolute majority and who knows when that tipping point will be reached – by the time people like Zuckerberg feel the heat it may be a tad late.
* As for American Jews, those of us who have kids now in college are getting an object lesson in the effects of a generation of mass migration from the Muslim world (and India too): where in our day, anti-Israel campus politics was a relatively tame affair headed by American leftists, today, under more, ahem, diverse leadership it’s risen to a whole new level of vicious.
* There is the fatally flawed belief that they will continue to thrive when the European Christian societies cease to exist as European and Christian because they have instances of thriving in some non highly-ordered, non high-trust societies. Problem is, these societies where always anchored by the highly ordered, high trust societies. But when these highly developed, high-trust societies are no more there will be no major source to buoy things up. History doesn’t repeat itself. It’s a one shot deal. But they facilitated this brilliantly, demonically. They showed the wind and they will reap the whirlwind.
* From NY Times:
“Many, including Ms. Merkel, have compared the challenge facing Germany to the historic decisions after the breach of the Berlin Wall in November 1989, when the leaders of West Germany swiftly enacted measures aimed at ensuring the peaceful merger of what for decades had been two separate states.”
Is this self-delusion? I can’t imagine two more different situations. The reunification brought together a single people – in some cases it actually reunited families.
* It’s simply because if you can discriminate against one particular group, you might also discriminate against other particular groups, and that might include Jews. Israel was only founded recently, and until it was Jews did not have a homeland and all Jews lived in various countries and moved not infrequently. Even today, more than half of all Jews live outside Israel. Discrimination is more dangerous and harmful in such a situation.
* I skimmed through all 3 of the local papers here in Toronto at Starbucks this afternoon. (something I rarely do any more) All of them mention the Holocaust and the turning away of some immigrant Jewish ship in the 30′s….this was the great stain, and we could atone by taking more refugees today.
Everyone seems to be on board with this view – across the political spectrum. It’s almost like a weird race to bid the refugee number higher.
I’m not sure what the general public thinks, but the media is unanimous. Even the conservative columnists are dewy eyed. I find it strange.
I think I’m spending too much time reading ‘alt-right’ blogs. I didn’t realize how out of sync I’m getting with the conventional opinion out there.
* No Israeli-style mist coolers anywhere near Auschwitz.
A hot dog vendor who set up his tourist snack cart (with misters to keep his customers cool) near Auschwitz got tagged for “insensitivity” about ten days ago.
I think Jews would have been ok with misters if a Jew was selling the hot dogs (after all they sell misters all over Israel), but alas it was a gentile.
I wonder, do the hotel rooms the Jewish kids stay in for the night at Auschwitz have showers in the bathrooms? The hotels might want to remove them.
* And they were made to travel there by train! oy!
* Please explain why most Jews voted for Obama in 2008 and 2012 if Jewish leftists are not representative of Jews in general?
* Jewish survival has often depended on being able to move quickly from country to country without obstruction. Jews accordingly oppose all border controls as a matter of principle.
* I can’t tell if you are trolling here. It isn’t principle. If it were principle, jews wouldn’t jealously restrict entry into Israel and other jewish “territories” (neighborhoods) across the world. Jews want access to the opportunities and resources of other identity groups while denying other groups access to their own opportunities and resources.
But resources are only part of the picture. Fostering mass population movements breaks up and weakens other identity groups and in some cases dilutes their gene pool.
* Steve, the comparison to 1933 works out a lot less favourably for the current refugees than you think.
In 1933 12 million Jews had nowhere to go. No country, at all. This was the final logic for Israel, which for all criticisms, has always accepted all Jewish refugees with open arms.
In 2015 1.5 billion Muslims have 55 countries, yet somehow Germany is their destination!
The poor drowned boy was not fleeing Syria in a boat. He was departing Turkey. He had refuge, but was going to Greece to get to Germany. For him to be a refugee he would have to be one from Turkey!
* Europe will rise again. This is maybe on some ways a turning point, but there is another turning point coming, when Europeans expel the vermin from their streets. Yes, by all means make the bastards cry, but don’t do it in despair. Do it in realization that you will need to steel yourself for the defense of your country.
