I am a convert to Orthodox Judaism and I oscillate between having a God-centered Torah worldview (aka ethical-monotheism) and a naturalistic tribal worldview. Because I know what it is like to belong to a tribe, I expect all groups to act in their self-interest just as my group pursues its group interest (Jews may do this for the glory of God or for the healing of the world or for the benefit of their children, etc, motives are always complex).
Sometimes I think that just as Torah wants a Jewish state of Israel free of gentile influence and even of gentiles, so too it would make sense for gentiles to create spaces free of Jewish influence. If I were a gentile white nationalist, I might not want any alien groups interfering with or weakening my state’s cohesion and unity.
What’s good for the goose is good for the gander, right? Just as the Japanese don’t want many non-Japanese in their land, and the Tibetans don’t want Chinese in their land, why would Germans or English or Americans want unassimilable groups in their land?
On the one hand, if I were a gentile white nationalist, I would probably admire Jews for their high average intelligence, their industriousness and persistence, their success, their tight family structure, their communal bonding, their effective lobbying and influence peddling, their wealth and prestige and dominance of the media. On the one hand, I’d see the Jews as having everything I wanted most for my group — a religion that simultaneously functions as a powerful evolutionary group strategy, cohesion, strong families, high achievement, great capacity for self-sacrifice for the tribe. On the other hand, I might resent Jews for pursuing their major groups pursuing what I saw as an anti-white agenda (because Jews rationally see a multi-racial and cosmopolitan country as less dangerous and less competition for a cohesive strongly identifying in-group). Whatever their good points, however much I might want to imitate them in many ways, Jews may well appear to me as working against white people’s interests.
If I were a Gentile white nationalist, I would want a white America (either 90% white or more). I’d subscribe to Genetic Similarity Theory aka that people get along better with those who are genetically similar to them. I’d hold by what Robert Putnam and Jason Richwine pointed out — the more racial diversity, the less social capital.
If I were a Gentile white nationalist, I might see pre-1939 Adolf Hitler as a hero and as an example of what a strong white man can create with a unified people of European ancestry.
If I were a Gentile white nationalist, I might be disturbed that tribes tend to have a weaker relationship to the nation state than what I would want for my fellow Americans.
If I were a Gentile white nationalist, I might want my land free of Jews, blacks, homosexuals, orientals, and Muslims (but I would not want mass killing as that is bad for morale, not because I cared that much about out-groups, unless I were a Christian). If I were a Gentile white nationalist, I’d want a land where it was unacceptable to work against white interests. If I were a Gentile white nationalist, I’d want to make sure that the good guys controlled the media and the schools.
If I were a Gentile white nationalist, I’d see that every major Jewish organization supported immigration amnesty and I would resent Jews because of this. If I were a Gentile white nationalist, I’d see that a solid majority of Americans since at least as far back as the Civil War has been opposed to more immigration and I would get mad that their wishes have been disregarded. If I were a Gentile white nationalist, as soon as I learned that American Jewish organizations have been pushing for more immigration for more than a hundred years, I would hate Jews for this.
If I were a Christian, I think I would be much more humane and pro-Jewish than if I were a pagan. If I were a Christian, I suspect I’d have intense ambivalence about Jews. On the one hand, I might see them as God’s Chosen People, or God’s former Chosen People. On the other hand, I would probably resent them for rejecting the truth of Christ. I suspect my feelings about Jews would be strongly conditioned by my personal dealings with them. If my dealings were mainly positive, I would likely have positive feelings about Jews and if my dealings were mainly negative, I’d be more likely to have negative feelings about Jews.
Now, let me interrupt this rant to clarify that I, Luke Ford, converted to Judaism in 1993 and I am happy with that decision. My instinct is to be a Jewish chauvinist and to think everything Jewish is superior to its non-Jewish counterparts. My mind naturally seizes on things that show Jews in the best light and denigrates non-Jews. I am not a Gentile white nationalist. I am just a nationalist. I believe equally in nationalism for all peoples — black, white, yellow, brown, Jewish, and Palestinian. Today I am an Orthodox Jew who believes that whites should pursue their group interest as fervently as blacks and Jews and Muslims and Japanese and Tibetans pursue their group interest. I am an Orthodox Jew who believes that Jews should never seek anything different for Gentiles than they want for themselves. I am a convert to Orthodox Judaism from WASP stock who fears that whites and Jews might sometimes have clashing interests and therefore might be fated for more conflict and tragedy.
Here’s the blog post from 2010 (found on page 305) from Chechar, a leading writer among white nationalists:
These days of February 2010 have been the most important since I discovered the subject of the Islamization of the West in September 2008 and that there was a substantial body of literature on white nationalism a year later. Until recently, Lawrence Auster’s writings had been a lighthouse to approach these subjects. The fact that all of his great grandparents were Eastern European Jews did not bother me the least bit.
But… a single phrase that I recently discovered in a June 2009 Gates of Vienna (GoV) exchange had the effect of a lightning bolt in the middle of the night. It made me revaluate my values in a subject that I previously called “anti-Semitism.”
Take note that GoV is a philo-Semitic blogsite, with a big Star of David in its main page stating “We Support Israel.” Below I quote a comment from the 2009 exchange at GoV. Avery Bullard said…
As I have often pointed out, socialism is by and large a disease of the intellectuals, and Jews are over-represented among intellectuals, due to a high native intelligence and a tradition of giving their children as much education as possible. Jews were also over-represented amongst musicians, physicists, and capitalist entrepreneurs.
But they are never over-represented in organisations or movements that represent the interests of the ethnic majority, only those that weaken that majority [the lightning!]. That is why they’ve been expelled from so many very different countries over so many centuries. Yet with the possible exception of Albert Lindemann (Esau’s Tears)
they never want to know the reasons why they’ve been so disliked in order to prevent more tragedies in the future. Instead they dismiss all anti-Semitism as scapegoating. In other words: are Jews more responsible for communism, based on their proportional representation amongst the intelligentsia, than any other intellectuals? If they are over-represented in the intelligentsia then they had disproportionate influence in the direction the intelligentsia took. Many Russian intellectuals were Slavo-philes. Before Jews could access the most important U.S. universities the old WASP intelligentsia in the U.S. was much more traditionalist.
Bullard’s comment in the words I italicized above was the lightning that changed my worldview: from philo-Semitism to anti-Semitism in a single stroke.