Are my peers choosing not to breed by picking high rents in safe areas over lower rents in more dangerous places that, still, would leave them with enough money with which to woo and marry and breed with a fertile woman? Chabad Jews are willing to live in the darker parts of town to afford their kids. The Lubavitcher Rebbe opposed white flight (for Jews from their historic neighborhoods).
I think this unfairly puts the onus on white men (actually, men in general) while not looking at some of the unfortunate choices young white women make.
David: “I have noticed that. Certain ethnic/religious groups will live in the s— areas of town and pop out a shed load of kids. Funny part is that the two groups that spring to mind are Jews and Muslims.”
Chaim: “In pure economic terms, I think there is something to this argument. But I don’t think it is anyone’s plan, it is instead a consequence of certain decisions. But I also think it takes two here, and women are the ultimate gatekeepers of their sexuality (at least when they are young).”
Alex: “Also jews and muslims have communal support that whites don’t. Whites aren’t accustomed to governing themselves independent of surrounding circumstances. At least in the west that seems to be the case.”
Chaim Amalek: “Alex, that is true of religious Jews, but not so much others. The old model of “real” Americans as lone wolves striking out for the wilderness on their own has always been somewhat false (lone wolves are the losers of the animal kingdom, are they not?) and it certainly does not work now. What White America needs is a consciously self-interested form of communal action. In other words, Socialism. Socialism of the family and of the immediate community, which is what orthodox Jews have. Mormons are a great example of what I mean. Whatever it is that the Mormons are doing and whatever you wish to call it, do that. Also parts of Hassidic life (only parts of it) are worth emulating. ACLU/Woody Allen liberalism is not. Step One: The recognition that all groups are in competition with all other groups to one degree or another. Step Zero is recognizing that there are groups.”
Alex Trivunovic: “All socialism is national, since it needs homogeneity in order to work. This is never openly stated. The technical term is ‘corporatism’ i think. For Mormons that is. A corpus (body) that acts essentially as a tribe or political party for it’s members in return for solidarity and loyalty. Sometimes unquestioning and self sacrificing loyalty.”
Chaim: “Syrian Jews. I think it is more about having a sense of belonging to a group and favoring members over outsiders. Also pooling resources, living together, sharing meals, and all that follows from that. No miscegenating with others, not even Ashkenazi jews like the Hassids. No converts allowed.”
“Alex, sometimes under the same roof. The high birth rate thing is more to do with the Hassids, who are not Syrian Jews by a long shot. There, they created a self contained world where girls are socialized to accept and expect that they will marry young (that is KEY), and have as many children as they possibly can.”
“So marry YOUNG, detach yourself from popular culture, recognize that humanity is broken down into many groups, figure out which one you belong to, and favor its members over outsiders. That’s most of it.”
