I speak of the belief, espoused by Trump, Cruz, Kascich and Sanders, along with many others over the years (in fact, nearly everyone who laments the number of abortions in this country) that women are victims of the procedure.
The person who solicits and pays for something voluntarily is not and cannot be a victim.
You can be a victim of rape, but you’re not a victim when you buy or solicit an abortion.
There can only three ways in which that’s possible.
You’re forced, against your will, to abort a child.
You are under the age of consent and thus cannot legally consent to the procedure.
You are mentally deficient and unable to account for or control your own affairs.
Nobody in America today is forced to abort a child against their will. That may happen in China, but it doesn’t happen here.
Further, if you’re old enough to consent to sex you’re also old enough, in both fact and law, to consent to the procedure.
This leaves one possibility — and only one.
All these politicians are asserting that women as a group are mentally defective, and I for one am done with anyone who wishes to call my daughter, along with every woman I have ever had the pleasure of associating with, mentally defective and incapable of handling their own affairs.
To the women out there reading this:
IF YOU TOLERATE SUCH A POSITION YOU ARE DECLARING YOURSELF MENTALLY INFIRM — A MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL INFANT. THAT IN TURN MEANS YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO EXPECT OR DEMAND EQUALITY IN ANYTHING — NOT SOCIALLY OR IN EMPLOYMENT BECAUSE YOU HAVE DECLARED YOURSELF, OF YOUR OWN FREE WILL, TO BE MENTALLY INCOMPETENT.
To the men out there reading this:
IF YOU TOLERATE SUCH A POSITION YOU ARE DECLARING THAT ANY WOMAN YOU LOVE, LIVE WITH, ARE MARRIED TO OR ASSOCIATE WITH IS A MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL INFANT AND INCOMPETENT TO MANAGE THEIR OWN AFFAIRS.
I’m not putting up with this garbage from anyone.
You run this crap on my property, you’re leaving.
To the politicians out there: You will cut this **** out right now, in public, you will apologize and admit you were full of crap and never do it again or as far as I’m concerned you are dead to me now and forevermore. NO EXCEPTIONS.
We will never be able to have a cogent debate on this or any other similar issue until we stop tolerating political figures and pundits claiming half the population is mentally incapable of making their own decisions and being accountable for them.
I flatly refuse to accept that horsecrap from anyone and I will not tolerate anyone around me who takes such a position — not now, not ever, period.
* I actually liked The Donald’s original reply – that if a crime has been committed, then everyone involved in the conspiracy needs to be punished – his reply seemed refreshingly honest & almost charmingly naive [vis-a-vis the overwhelming tidal wave of Eskimo Politically Correct Totalitarian Think].
It made me very sentimental for an era when people could speak honestly about these things.
* The Donald is at his best when he is talking about visceral issues which hit the general public very squarely in the gut [such as illegal aliens murdering our chillunzes]. On the other hand, this question – of whether or not womynzes are so d@mned intellectually & emotionally incompetent that they can’t be held accountable for any of their actions – this question will be at the heart of the Hillary prosecution in the email felonies.
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The ideology of nonjudgmentalism, primarily held by women, is better understood as female guilt transference of their secret desire to be judged. Women WANT a man who will judge them and make them feel if not unworthy at least short of perfection. This provides a pretext for the woman to prove herself to the man, which she will love doing because the act of pleasing arouses in a woman the feeling that the person she’s pleasing is above her and therefore deserving of her efforts. And though women will never admit it on self-report surveys, they get quite turned on by the challenge of satisfying a man who occupies a higher station than them.
With that in mind, here’s Twisted Alpha (Twatter handle @Twisted_Alpha) writing about a form of judgmentalism that women can’t resist, scoreboard game. arbitrarily giving points for good behavior
He attached this screenie:
Adding or subtracting “points” from a woman’s conversational prowess (or even physical/sexual prowess) is a classic Game routine, and illustrates very well the theory of Qualification/Disqualification. There’s a reason Qualification is such an important Game technique: it works, and it works fast. Why does it work? In two words, female hypergamy. A magistrate is sexier than a sycophant.
So if you’re searching for a rhetorical ploy that will coax girls to aim to please you, try Scoreboard Game. And don’t be afraid to deduct points for bitchy or excessively coy behavior. The impact will be lost if you revert to the beta male norm of awarding hundreds of points to women for the accomplishment of possessing a vagina.
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Tweet: “The ADL also provides seminars and publications to law enforcement. Creates a self-fulfilling prophecy where cops look for Nazis. The ADL is also heavily involved in public schools with its No Place for Hate Campaign. Young Alt-Right needs to be mindful.”
MORDECHAI LEVY WAS AN accident waiting to happen. By his own account, the paunchy, 27-year-old loner who sprayed Bleecker Street with rifle fire last Thursday afternoon, has spent more than a decade moving in and out of the often violent world of radical fringe groups, supplying information to intelligence agencies and Jewish organizations, including the FBI and the Anti-Defamation League of the B’nai Brith. In the early 1980s he was a maverick Jewish Defense League activist in Los Angeles, where his harassment of white hate groups became legendary.
During the same period he would sometimes turn up on the East Coast, reincarnated as a security agent for the anti-Semitic conspiracy group headed by Lyndon LaRouche. LaRouche once said of Levy, “I think of him as my son.” But Levy later became a federal informant gathering evidence on LaRouche, who was later convicted for loan fraud.
Meanwhile, his uncanny ability to track down KKK members and neo-Nazis astounded federal officials. “Levy does appear to possess membership lists of neo-Nazi groups and KKK members across the U.S.,” a confidential FBI memorandum reported. On one occasion Levy even dressed in full Nazi regalia to apply for a parade permit to march at Independence Hall in Philadelphia, apparently in a misguided effort to alert the local Jewish community to the dangers of neo-Nazism.
Several years ago, Levy moved to New York and founded the Jewish Defense Organization, a tiny mutant offshoot of the JDL dedicated to violent harassment of its enemies.
But in the last few months, nothing has obsessed Levy more than his increasingly bitter feud with two rival Jewish militants — West Coast JDL boss Irv Rubin and convicted JDL terrorist Steven Rombom. When these two — together with Allan Klebanoff, a bearded, hulking, 27-year-old Israeli army veteran from Haifa — came to the JDO’s fortresslike Bleecker Street headquarters to serve Levy with court papers stemming from a libel action, something in the tightly wound Levy apparently snapped.
“Mor-dy, Mor-dy, we’ve got something for you,” the militants sang in taunting voices described by eyewitnesses as something out of Nightmare on Elm Street. Levy, who had an arsenal of licensed weapons in his office, allegedly went to the roof and sprayed the street with a burst of semiautomatic rifle fire, wounding a retired air conditioning repairman as he sat in a parked van. “They were really provoking the guy,” said Dominic Spinelli, who was taken to the emergency room at St. Vincent’s hospital. Spinelli says that the three men knocked at Levy’s door and, after receiving no answer, began to throw stones at the windows and to shout “Come on Mordechai, we know you’re in there.” “I guess the guy just got mad and started shooting.”
round midnight on Wednesday, just 12 hours before the shoot-out on Bleecker Street, I received a call from Levy, with whom I have discussed Jewish militant activities over the years. “I’m sorry to call you so late but it’s an emergency,” he said, panting into my phone answering machine. “Pick up. Listen, Rubin is in New York with Rombom. They are fucking looking for you.” Levy, more hyperkinetic than usual, said that the men had staked out The Village Voice offices that afternoon, waiting for a chance to “teach me a lesson” for writing a book about Kahane that they were sure they wouldn’t like. “Rombom is armed,” warned Levy. “They are looking for you. Call me any time, day or night.”
Both Rombom and Rubin were later to tell me that Levy’s midnight call was just one more delusion produced by a very, very sick mind. And they say they posed no threat to Levy when they were met with rifle shots from a Ruger Mini-14 on Thursday.
Moments after the shooting, Bleecker Street looked like a war zone. Dozens of heavily armed police, backed by an armored personnel carrier and a bomb disposal robot, had cordoned off the neighborhood as the JDO leader holed up in his office, phoning friends for advice. An FBI agent Levy knew finally convinced him to surrender.
As Levy, looking downcast and extremely frightened, was led in handcuffs to a waiting unmarked police car, he told reporters, “They were trying to kill me.”
Just a few hours later, after he’d been booked, Levy called me from the 9th Precinct, telling police detectives as a pretext that I was his lawyer.
“Man, [Rombom and Rubin] came last night after I spoke to you,” Levy said, his voice calm and attention focused. “I have witnesses, the guys who live upstairs. I had them say I’m not there. They said, ‘Mordy, we’re going to kill you, we’re going to get you.’ I pretended I wasn’t there…. And then today, they came back.
“I was one floor up and I saw Rombom at the door,” Levy continues. “He was with another idiot. I don’t know who it was. I was looking outside and one of them had like a metal thing trying to pry open the damn door. I called 911. They didn’t come. Five minutes later, they were prying at the door. The sounds were getting louder. I called 911 a second time. I got the operator’s number — number 96. Fortunately, she taped it. I said I got guys at my front door with a gun in their hand, you know, three guys. I recognized Rombom right away, and he had the gun in his hand. I didn’t recognize the faces except for Rombom.
“They were out to get you and me … there is no question about it. They couldn’t find you, so they went after me.
“Irv Rubin has a history of pistol-whipping me. Listen man, it was really self-defense. They were going to break in and kill me. When one guy has a gun in his hand, I don’t care, I don’t have to wait until he aims it at my head…. These guys wanted to kill me, man.”
Wild as it may seem, he’s not alone in that belief. “I think Rubin and Rombom went to Levy’s to rub him out,” says a well-known Jewish militant.
But police sources investigating the shooting are more skeptical: “These guys cry wolf so much you never know what’s really happening,” says a law enforcement official. “Think of what might have happened: Rombom and Rubin could have left Bleecker Street in a body bag.”
The feud between Rubin and Levy first erupted in the early 1980s, when Levy decided to leave the JDL chapter in Los Angeles because it was not “militant enough” for him. Levy then created the JDO, which was really nothing more than a roll of quarters and a phone booth across from his favorite deli where Levy made harassing telephone calls to “enemies of the Jewish people.”
Rubin, who had long suffered the ignominy of playing second fiddle to the king of Jewish militants, Rabbi Meir Kahane, wasn’t keen on letting the young upstart with a scraggly beard and unkempt clothes upstage him. After repeated taunts and threats, Rubin told me in 1985 that he beat Levy so severely he was hospitalized. Rubin now denies he beat Levy.
Levy later moved to New York and joined Lyndon LaRouche’s cult of paranoid conspiracy theorists as an undercover agent of disinformation and dirty tricks. LaRouche security boss Paul Goldstein was Levy’s handler. He assigned Levy to infiltrate the ADL, the JDL, and other groups LaRouche accuses of “destabilizing” the world order. Goldstein set up a “verification unit” to process the information. “Some of it was gold,” he told me.
Levy, however, fed dirt on LaRouche to the ADL, the FBI, and Manhattan D.A. Robert Morganthau’s office. Author dennis King says Levy’s infiltration of the LaRouchies was a classic example of the undercover operative genre. Irwin Suall of the ADL still isn’t quite sure what Levy was up to. “His role was enigmatic,” said Suall, who told the Washington Post that he was afraid Levy might be taking information back to LaRouche. “I was as certain as I could be not to give him information that would be useful to the LaRouche people. I thought he was playing some sort of complex game.”
As Levy was playing his twilight games with the LaRouchies, the Jewish militant scene in New York City was in the process of self-destruction. The preeminent group, the Jewish Defense League, wa founded by Brooklyn-born Rabbi Meir Kahane in 1968. But when the rabble-rousing rabbi moved to Israel in September 1971 — where he founded a political party bent on driving Israel’s Arabs across the Jordan River — his departure left a vacuum. Soon, rival groups of militants, each with one or two wealthy backers, were competing for primacy, sometimes settling their internal squabbles with gunfire and car bombs.
After Levy left LaRouche in ’82 or ’83, he set up the JDO, adding one more letterhead to the soup of militant Jewish alphabet factions in New York. Operating out of 6 Bleecker Street — a building leased by his major benefactor, millionaire realtor and garbologist A.J. Weberman — Levy was soon harassing the likes of reverends Louis Farrakhan and Al Sharpton, as well as assorted skinheads and boot-clicking Nazis.
Levy seemed to have a knack for making sure the FBI and the NYPD knew in advance whenever he planned to picket a group likely to give him trouble. Though Levy liked to boast about the size and militancy of his operations, the JDO was never more than a small band of young Jews who would move on after one or two of Levy’s protest demonstrations. Levy, who runs a weekend weapons and martial arts training camp in the Catskills taught by a black convert to Judaism, was investigated for a string of Jewish extremist bombings in 1985 that claimed two lives and injured seven. The FBI now believes the suspects are four JDL members who are now in Israel, where they are close associates of Meir Kahane.
“The JDO was a figment of Levy’s imagination,” says one of Levy’s most fervent supporters. “Levy believed there was a group of armed kids that he had trained who were loyal. But when Rubin and Rombom came to get him, he was very much alone.”
Rombom and Rubin are militant soul-mates, and Levy, who has tangled with them more than once, certainly thought he had reason to fear both. The strapping, strutting, gun-toting Rombom, a 32-year-old private investigator from Brooklyn, concedes that he is “perceived as a head-breaker.”
“I was a wild kid who hung around with bad guys,” Rombom recently told the San Antonio Express-News in the June 4, 1989, profile that described him as a “Jewish Jim Rockford.” “A lot of my contacts today are guys whose parents are or were big hoodlums.”
Perhaps Rombom’s tough guy obsession began in psychiatric institutions where he spent eight years of his youth, according to court documents. Rombom denies he has ever been institutionalized. Maybe his relationship with the JDL, which began when he was 12, gave him a channel to vent his considerable anger.
In either case, when Kahane asked several JDL members to set up an anti-Arab and anti-Soviet Jewish terrorist underground in 1975, Rombom was an eager participant. For six months in 1976, Rombom and several other JDL militants, calling themselves the Jewish Armed Resistance, tried to emulate the glory days of the JDL.
In New York, pipe bombs exploded outside the Iraqi Mission to the UN, the Polish Consulate, and the Amtrog (Soviet trade mission) Office. Shots were fired into the Soviet residential complex in the Bronx; into the homes of two Soviet diplomats in suburban Maryland; and into the Soviet UN Mission, piercing two fifth-floor windows in the Ukrainian section. On May 2, 1976, in the early morning hours before a march for Soviet Jewry in Manhattan, five low-yield pipe bombs shattered windows and caused minor damage to the American Communist Party national headquarters, two Midtown banks, a Russian-language bookstore, and a subway exit near the United Nations library. On June 23, vehicles belonging to Pan American airlines were destroyed by incendiary bombs.
The flurry of violence stopped when the FBI arrested 17-year-old Steven Rombom, 20-year-old Steven Ehrlich, and 36-year-old Thomas MacIntosh (a convert to Judaism) as they drove across the Goethals Bridge between New Jersey and Staten Island carrying four pounds of gunpowder. MacIntosh, who turned state’s evidence, testified against his friends and also implicated 35-year-old JDL leader Russel Kelner and one other person in the spate of Jewish Armed Resistance terror attacks.
The JDL men were subsequently convicted and sent to prison. Rombom copped a plea to transporting explosives across a state line and spent some 20 months in a federal prison in Tallahassee. “Defendant Rombom needs long psychiatric treatment in a disciplined and structured environment,” said his probation report. “Recommended against early release.”
Rombom is a tragic example of the sort of psychopath Kahane attracted to the JDL. Rombom joined the JDL as a youth over the frantic objections of his doctors and social workers — who called JDL officials and begged them not to allow someone as unstable as Rombom to get involved in the militant organization. Following his conviction, Rombom’s mother spun into a deep depression. His father, Abraham Rombom, wrote the judge to plead for his son’s early release, saying, “… my marriage has been completely ruined. There is no interest in marital relations on the part of my wife. I cannot talk to her about any subject but Steven.”
In 1977 Rombom filed an affidavit with a federal court stating he had been the victim of two homosexual rapes in the Tallahassee prison and should be accorded an early release because he had been rehabilitated. Former Congressman Mario Biaggi, a major JDL supporter, wrote a letter to the warden on Rombom’s behalf. According to an affidavit filed by the U.S. attorney’s office, Rombom manufactured the rape incident to win early release. Sometime after Rombom was released from prison, he says his criminal record was expunged — meaning that as a youthful offender, his record was sealed and cannot be used against him in a court of law.
In spite of the problems his association with the JDL caused Steven, he was still occasionally handling security assignments for Rabbi Kahane as late as 1985 when he visited the U.S. on his frequent fund raising tours. Rombom told me that his private investigation firm, Pallorium, trained JDL security agents somewhere in Canada.
In 1983 Rombom was arrested in Brooklyn for allegedly beating three youths who were apprehended in front of a Brooklyn synagogue on Halloween night by members of a patrol organized by Rombom to combat vandalism against Jewish institutions. The charges against Rombom were later dropped. Rombom says the complainants dropped the charges after admitting that they had misidentified him as the man who beat them. A report in the Long Island Jewish World by a reporter who was with Rombom on the night of the alleged attack confirms Rombom’s account of the incident.
The Federal Aviation Administration has investigated Rombom and considered assessing civil penalties against him for successfully smuggling a fake weapon through a security checkpoint at San Antonio International Airport. Rombom says he was trying to point out the airport’s lax security. Rombom told me the FAA has concluded that the charges against him were “groundless.”
Rombom, who professes some expertise in the field of counter-terrorism, says several synagogues have contacted him about helping them beef up their security as a shield against the spectre of Arab terrorism. “One out of every four hours I spend in the security field is devoted to the Jewish community,” says Rombom.
A few years ago, Rombom replied to an ad for the International Association of Airborne Veterans looking for bona fide American paratroopers to participate in a jump with the Israeli air force. Rombom signed on falsely claiming he was a veteran of the Israeli paratroop corps. “The man is a classic bullshitter,” says one of the jump’s organizers, who added that when he tried to jump the following year, he was told to get lost.
Rombom claims to have worked with a “foreign intelligence agency” for two years and with numerous U.S. police organizations. Several years ago, when Rombom reportedly tried to infiltrate the Russian mob in Brighton Beach for law enforcement agencies, his car was raked with automatic gunfire as he was driving through Brooklyn. “It’s the most ridiculous thing I ever heard,” Rombom said in response to reports about the alleged mob infiltration. He admitted, however, that his car was shot up by a man he says the police are still looking for. “He’s [Rombom’s] not the easiest person to deal with,” says an ex-assistant DA in Brooklyn who worked with Rombom on an undercover sting operation.
“While the architecture of his personality may be repulsive to some people, he’s dedicated to justice being done…” Rombom’s longtime friend, country rock musician Kinky Friedman, told the Express-News. Friedman, who is also a successful detective novelist, has based several of his fictional characters on Rombom, and even gives Rombom’s name to his hero. Friedman has thanked Rombom in one of his books for being his technical advisor. In 1985, Kinky Friedman and Steven Rombom were announced as the guests of honor at the Jewish Defense League Legal Defense Fund Dinner at Sholom Japan Restaurant in Manhattan.
Rombom has been railing against Levy since at least 1985, when a union between Irv Rubin’s West Coast JDL and Levy’s JDO — brokered by a wealthy New York Jewish militant — failed to materialize. Soon, Rombom was blabbing to anyone in the press who would listen that Levy was still the illegitimate son of the LaRouchies. According to Paul Goldstein, one of LaRouche’s top security agents, Rombom contacted their people in a Texas airport offering his services as a private investigator. Rombom claims he only phoned the LaRouche organization looking for proof that Levy was still one of them. In response, Levy harassed Rombom’s parents on the telephone, Rombom says. “That’s why I’m furious at this cockroach Levy.”
Later that year Rombom slammed a steaming bowl of soup into Levy’s head at Bernstein’s on the Lower East Side. Rombom has admitted the attack in a phone conversation. Author Dennis King, who was sitting at the table, says that Rombom then threatened King because he was friends with Levy. King says he was threatened by Rombom a second time in a phone call last June 26.
“Levy thinks I’m trying to ruin his life,” Rombom said in a conversation with another Jewish militant. “And certainly I am.” “I am not an objective, disinterested party where Levy is concerned,” he told me. “I take enormous offense to the kind of person Mordechai Levy is.”
Given Levy and Rombom’s less than amicable history, Irv Rubin was being less than honest when he told the New York media after the Bleecker Street shooting that he asked Rombom to serve Levy court papers simply because Rombom is a licensed process server and because he was willing to do it for free. According to the libel suit filed against the JDO leader by Rubin and his wife in California superior court, Levy accused Rubin of drug-dealing, extortion, and laundering money for a convicted organized crime figure during a radio talkshow in Los Angeles last June — allegations Rubin flatly denies. (Meir Kahane once wrote a letter to Rubin on Knesset stationary accusing him of smuggling drugs from Mexico.)
Levy claims that following the talk show, Rubin and four associates tailed him to his mail drop, where they savagely beat him. Rubin denies it. “Rubin knocked me in the head with a pipe, knocked me in the face, busted my glasses,” Levy says. “Then one of them tried to shove me into a car.” After the incident, according to another West Coast Jewish militant, Rubin was heard to gloat that if Levy ever returned to L.A., he would be sent back to New York in “a pine box.”
Last Thursday morning, August 9, the day Rubin, Rombom, and Klebanoff came to Levy’s Bleecker Street headquarters, Levy says he was in bed with a migraine after having been harassed the night before by Rombom. Ironically, it was Tisha Bov, a Jewish holiday that marks the destruction of the First and Second Temples in Jerusalem, traditionally a day of fasting and prayer. Levy, an Orthodox Jew, had not eaten for some time when he allegedly heard Rubin’s distinctive, high-pitched whine outside his door. Levy bolted to the roof, sprayed the sidewalk with rifle fire, and “then locked myself in a closet until I calmed down.
“I was afraid. I was never involved in anything like this before,” Levy told me during a telephone interview from the Brooklyn House of Detention, where he will be held until his bail hearing today.
I asked Levy why he believes Rombom wanted to kill him now, as opposed to at any other time during their stormy relationship. Levy said he believed Rombom thought he had “documents” that he was going to use to hurt the young private eye. “I’m not the kind of person who hurts people or attacks people. These people have a history of attacking me physically. One of them has a history of shooting into occupied dwellings.”
Meanwhile, Rubin, who has been arrested on attempted murder and bombing charges and for various other acts of JDL mayhem, says he can’t imagine what reason Levy would have to fear him. “We came [to Levy’s office] in the middle of the day,” Rubin told me. “We had no weapons … as far as coming to shoot you, it would be a cold day in hell before I even think of that.” Rubin says he believes Levy needs long-term psychiatric treatment. He says he’s sick of Levy tying up the JDL phone lines with collect calls from Dr. Mengele or Mr. Killajew. “I’ve had to change my private line eight times in the last year,” he said, sighing deeply.
Rombom insists he came to Levy’s merely to hand the JDO leader court papers. Levy’s allegation that he had a gun is absolutely false, says Rombom. “We were dressed in shirt sleeves and had no jackets. There was no place to conceal weapons.” Rombom also says the police conducted a search of his person and his car and did not find a weapon. When asked whether he has a New York State permit to carry a handgun, Rombom replied “No comment.”
There’s little doubt that Levy’s Jewish Defense Organization died in the shoot-out on Bleecker Street. Facing four felony counts — the most serious of which is attempted murder — even if Levy walks it would be surprising if he ever obtained another weapons permit. The Jewish community is almost unanimously opposed to Levy and his brand of militancy.
Still, he has his admirers. “I believe he’s really sincere in what [approximately two words obscured on microfilm] Jewish official Malcolm I. Hoenlein told a New York Times reporter several years ago. “He has provided very useful information to us.”
Dennis King wonders if there will be anyone else to bird-dog the likes of a Lyndon LaRouche or a Louis Farrakhan if Levy is put out of action.
Yet even Levy’s best intentions often give way to his penchant for self-promotion, boomeranging to help the very scoundrels he’s trying to bring to heel. In his newsletter former Klansman David Duke thanked the yarmulke-clad Levy for coming down to Louisiana to demonstrate against him during his race for the state legislature. Duke wrote that he was carried into office in part on the anti-Levy backlash.
Only Levy knows what made him snap and open fire. King, who does not condone the shooting, believes there is a rational reason. “Based on my own experience of intensive harassment from Rombom, I can find it perfectly understandable how he snapped. Only someone who has been attacked by bullies bent on your destruction month after month understands how that builds tremendous tension.”
For his part, Levy is trying to make the best out of a bad situation. “I’m trying the best I can to be strong,” he said. “I think in the end, I’m going to be exonerated, because they came to my place. Rombom was armed. They were out to do me harm.”
Steven Rombom, the Jim Rockford of Jewish private detectives and a self-styled security expert, recently expressed his contempt for terrorists during his interview with the Express-News.
“Terrorists, for the most part, are cowards,” he said. “They go after light targets.”
Like Mordechai Levy.
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“He invites President Vladimir Putin to the White House … announces that America is withdrawing from NATO and … visits Tehran to open up a new American embassy.”
Jacob Heilbrunn is editor of the National Interest.
Donald Trump has already made it clear that he regards much of the global order that was established by Harry S. Truman and Dean Acheson after World War II as impotent and obsolete. Almost as soon as he’s sworn the oath to serve as commander-in-chief, Trump will go to work to create a new one based on the exercise of American military power and cooperation with Washington’s traditional adversaries such as Russia. So the real question may be this: How would a 9/11 event accelerate his already existing efforts to upend the American national security establishment?
Following the attack, President Trump builds upon his initial attempts to restore relations with Russia, which included nuclear arms-control negotiations. He now invites President Vladimir Putin to the White House—complete with a state dinner in his honor. Trump, the consummate dealmaker, says that it’s imperative to let bygones be bygones in the interest of a united front with Russia to defeat the Islamic peril. At the same time, Trump announces that America is withdrawing from NATO and concedes Russia’s sphere of influence in Eastern Europe. England, which has already withdrawn from the European Union, joins the U.S-Russia alliance. In following this course, Trump invokes World War II to declare that he’s simply following in Franklin Roosevelt’s footsteps.
All of this is music to the Kremlin’s ears, which has consistently bemoaned the fact that the Obama administration has spurned its offers of cooperation. British, Russian and American warplanes bomb targets in Syria and Iraq that served as staging grounds for the Islamic State’s assault on America. In addition, Trump pivots from America’s traditional alliance with Saudi Arabia to working with Iran; to general astonishment, he visits Tehran to open up a new American embassy. Trump says that the only predictable thing about his presidency is that he will always seek to be unpredictable.
Domestically, Trump takes a hard line, arguing that it’s time to take the handcuffs off the FBI and CIA. He embarks upon a program to place American Muslims in camps, a program overseen by the Justice Department as it was during the Roosevelt administration in World War II, when Japanese-Americans were interned. The Washington Post and New York Times editorial pages denounce Trump’s new policy, but it meets with general approbation among the American population, a number of Democratic Senators and Congressmen in swing states sign off on the measure, and the Supreme Court upholds it in an 8-1 decision. With his decisive moves, Trump enrages liberal and conservative elites but his approval ratings soar to over 80 percent in numerous polls. The era of Trump has begun.
* “Tweet after tweet congratulating himself on foreseeing the attack and ridiculing the terrorists’ masculinity, their intelligence, their family members, their ethnic identity and/or religion”
Gwenda Blair is author of The Trumps: Three Generations That Built an Empire.
Twitter would be Trump’s front-line counter-attack. Tweet after tweet congratulating himself on foreseeing the attack and ridiculing the terrorists’ masculinity, their intelligence, their family members, their ethnic identity and/or religion—along with any civil libertarian or moderate voices asking for caution, consultation with allies, or more operational and regional intelligence before initiating counter-offensives against targets either inside or outside the United States.
Next would be live streamed appearances on CNN, Fox, MSNBC, etc. in which Trump denounced the terrorists, their supporters, and any opposition to the use of any and all tactics against captured terrorist suspects.
Then he would change into Donald Trump Menswear 100% silk PJs with gold-embroidered POTUS seal on front pocket, stretch out on a super-luxury top-grain leather Trump Home Furnishings chaise, chow down on a prime-cut Trump steak, and turn on WWE.
In the event the attacks continued, he might be moved to more action. Potential steps might include curfews, quarantines and/or internment in certain communities, required loyalty oaths for government employees, teachers, uniformed services, etc., civil defense drills in schools, factories, offices, and other large installations such as airports, train stations, subway systems, and the adoption and frequent testing of alerts through texts and loudspeakers.
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I’ve gone through most of the Talmud and these passages are the most disturbing to me. What I have to keep in mind is that they are discussing dowries and financial arrangements, not permitted sex.
The Accusation
Yebhamot 11b: “Sexual intercourse with a little girl is permitted if she is three years of age.”
The accusation here is quite nefarious. It implies that Judaism permits pedophilia, has no respect for women, and generally advocates loose sexual morals. To those familiar with the Talmud, this claim is patently ridiculous. However, the majority of people — particularly those making this claim — know little to nothing about the Talmud, its contents, or its methodology. On our website The Real Truth About The Talmud, we elaborate on these issues. However, for now, we will focus on the accusation at hand. It is, in fact, easily verified as being incorrect.
The Text
Talmud Ketuvot 11b (The citation mentioned is evidently in error. Talmud Yevamot 11b has no relevant passage)
“Rav Yehudah said in the name of Rav: A male child who has relations with a female adult causes her to be like one who was injured with a stick… Rava said: This is what was meant – an adult male who has relations with a female child has not done anything because less than this [three years old] is like sticking a finger into an eyeball.”
While those unused to these Talmudic discussions might be taken aback by the use of euphemisms, the discussion here relates to the dowry for virgins and non-virgins. It has nothing to do with what acts are allowed, encouraged, forbidden, or discouraged. It is, indeed, ironic that this passage has been manipulated from its original context of a financial discussion into one of a religious discussion. While there are numerous talmudic passages of a religious nature, this one discusses dowries and not forbidden and permitted relations!
The Talmud relates that a virgin is entitled a higher dowry. While the tell-tale sign of virginity is the release of blood due to the breaking of the hymen on the wedding night, there are occasions when the hymen has already been broken such as when the woman suffered an injury. The Talmud here quotes Rav Yehuda in the name of Rav that a sexual act with a male minor is not considered to be a loss of virginity because one of the participants is not fully active. While the female’s hymen may have been broken, she has not engaged in what can be classified as a sexual act (although it is certainly child abuse).
The Talmud continues and quotes Rava as saying that a sexual act between a male adult and a female under the age of three is also not considered a loss of virginity (although it is child abuse). Since the girl is too young for her hymen to be broken, she is still considered a virgin.
Nowhere is the Talmud permitting such behavior. Sex outside of a marriage is strictly forbidden (Maimonides, Mishneh Torah, Hilchot Ishut 1:4, Hilchot Na’arah Betulah 2:17; Shulchan Aruch, Even HaEzer 26:1, 177:5) as is this obvious case of child abuse. The Talmud is only discussing ex post facto what would happen if such a case arose.
That non-marital sexual relations is prohibited is stated explicitly by Maimonides in the following passage from his ground-breaking legal code Mishneh Torah:
Maimonides, Mishneh Torah, Hilchot Ishut 1:4
“Whoever has licentious relations with a woman without marriage bonds is lashed by biblical mandate.”
The claim that the Talmud, or normative Judaism, permits sexual relations with a minor is almost entirely incorrect. The slight truth in it is that, in certain societies in history, people were sometimes married as young as ten. While this was most recently done in Czarist Russia in order to avoid being drafted into the Czar’s army (which was made especially difficult for Jews), it is not currently done. However, even in that case, marriage is required before having sexual relations. Judaism as a religion prohibits sexual relations, indeed even minor touching such as holding hands, outside of marriage.
It is certainly true that there are individual Jews who do not follow the teaching of the Talmud. That is their personal choice, just like many Catholics choose to use birth control and have premarital relations despite their religion’s teaching against it. This does not mean that Catholicism permits premarital relations and it does not mean that Judaism (and the Talmud) does either. The personal choices of people whether to follow completely their religion does not reflect on what their religion teaches. Similarly, the fact that certain Muslims drink alcohol and frequent prostitutes does not mean that their religion permits it. It means that these individuals choose to defy their religion.
We leave it to others to deduce why some people would make baseless accusations against the Talmud and, by implication, Judaism and Jews.
* It is a misquote. It is talking about the age at which the girl converted, not the age at the time of the marriage. Regarding these sorts of misquotes in general, see this related question. Regarding the significance of the age of three, it refers to a legal technicality as explained in the final bullet point of this answer. Molesting a child, whether above or below the age of three, is forbidden (Kiddushin 41a, Nidda 13b).
I didn’t personally downvote the question, which I assume was asked in good faith. But I very much appreciate the sentiment of those who did downvote it. It essentially boils down to this: The preceding is a lengthy excerpt from an overtly anti-Jewish website attacking the Talmud as immoral. Discuss! It would be much better if the OP could find the translated Talmud quote from a neutral source, present his understanding of the passage, and ask whether his understanding is correct. But you could always ask on meta about the ideal approach to these questions.
תניא ר’ שמעון בן יוחי אומר גיורת פחותה מבת שלש שנים ויום אחד כשירה לכהונה שנאמר וכל הטף בנשים אשר לא ידעו משכב זכר החיו לכם והרי פנחס עמהם
Translation:
A b’raisa: Rabbi Shim’on ben Yochai says: A female who converted to Judaism below the age of three years and one day is permissible to a kohein.1 As the verse states: “But all the female children that have not known relations with a man, keep them alive for yourselves” (B’midbar 31:18).2
This answer addresses the legal distinction between girls below and above the age of three:
The whole thing about age 3 is a technicality’s technicality. With regards to certain laws, activity below the age of 3 does not affect her halachic status (for instance, a woman still has the halachic full status of “virginity” no matter what happened to her before age 3).
With regards to this case in particular: According to R’ Shim’on, a Jewish girl’s legal virginity status does not take effect until the age of three. Therefore, any girl who converts to Judaism below the age of three has the legal status of a Jewish virgin and may marry a kohein in R’ Shim’on’s opinion (see Y’rushalmi Kiddushin 4:6, “רבי שמעון אומר עד שיבואו בתולים בקדושת ישראל”).
II.
In any case, Judaism prohibits sexual relations with a minor girl, whether above or below the age of three. The Talmud states (Kiddushin 41a):
האיש מקדש את בתו כשהיא נערה: כשהיא נערה אין כשהיא קטנה לא מסייע ליה לרב דאמר רב יהודה אמר רב ואיתימא רבי אלעזר אסור לאדם שיקדש את בתו כשהיא קטנה עד שתגדל ותאמר בפלוני אני רוצה
Translation:
“A man may marry off his daughter when she is a na’ara“:3 When she is a na’ara, yes. When she is a child, no. This supports the teaching of Rav, for Rav Y’huda said in the name of Rav, and there are those who say Rabbi El’azar, “It is forbidden for a man to marry off his daughter when she is a child, until she grows up and says, ‘I want to marry So-and-so.'”
Additionally, the Talmud specifically condemns sexual relations between men (in the context of this answer, “men” refers to all males age 13 and up) and little girls (Nidda 13b):
ת”ר הגרים והמשחקין בתינוקות מעכבין את המשיח… דנסיבי קטנות דלאו בנות אולודי נינהו
Translation:
The Rabbis taught in a b’raisa: Converts4 and those who play with little girls delay the coming of the Messiah… The latter refers to those who marry [and have sexual relations with] girls who are too young to [safely]5 bear children.
The prohibition against relations between a man and a minor girl not of safe childbearing age is codified in the Rambam (Mishneh Torah, Issurei Bi’ah 21:18) and the Shulchan Aruch (EH 23:1).6
As far as conducting a formal marriage (kiddushin, though without consummation of the marriage) between a man and a minor girl, the Rambam (Ishus 3:19) and perhaps the Shulchan Aruch (EH 37:8; see also Kesef Mishneh, Ishus 10:16) rule that the Rabbis merely discouraged the practice and that it is not technically prohibited. Nonetheless, this is only technically permitted if the girl is at least close to the age of majority, both the girl and her father approve of the marriage, and if the girl is mentally mature and competent to make such a decision (see Bach EH 37 and Chelkas M’chokeik EH 37:10).
However, Rashi (K’subos 57b, s.v. “אבל פוסקין”) understands that marriage to a minor girl is formally prohibited, though betrothal with the consent of both the girl and her father is permissible. The Rivash also rules that marriage to a minor girl is formally prohibited (§193, “דדרך בני אדם להקפיד שלא להשיא בנותיהן בקטנותן וגם שיש לו אסור בדבר מדברי רב יהודה עד שתגדיל”; see also §199), as does the Taz (EH 37:5, based on the Ran).
Regardless of the precise nature of the talmudic exhortation not to marry minor girls, some communities during medieval times (and even as late as the 17th century)7 felt the need to marry off their daughters as soon as they could, even while they were children (see Tosafos on Kiddushin 41a, s.v. “אסור לאדם שיקדש את בתו”; Rama EH 37:8). The reason for this was the extremely precarious nature of the safety and finances of Jews in Europe during that period; if a father acquired enough capital to pay his daughter’s dowry, he would immediately marry her off before her marriage prospects could be compromised by his money being stolen or confiscated by the state – or worse.
III.
In any case, later authorities have decried the practice of marrying off one’s minor daughter, and they have stressed the prohibition against it. R’ Ya’akov Emden (Sh’eilas Ya’beitz I, §14, “לדידן לא שנא קידושין וכ”ש נישואין בתרווייהו לא שפיר דמי למיעבד עובדא בקטנה ממש”) and the Aruch HaShulchan (EH 37:33, “בזמנינו אין מקדשין את הקטנות ולא שמענו מעולם מי שיקדש את הקטנה ונכון הוא דבש”ס [מ”א א] איתא דאסור לקדשה כשהיא קטנה… אין זה נכון וכן המנהג פשוט בזמנינו במדינתינו”) have ruled that it is wrong for a man to marry a minor in this day and age regardless of leniencies that were employed in some communities during the Middle Ages.
In the social and psychological context of modern times, it would presumably be psychologically damaging and traumatic for a minor girl (or even a girl well past the age of 12) to be married. Leaving aside the technical considerations discussed heretofore in this answer, putting a young girl in a marriage or sexual relationship would be a violation of multiple tenets of Judaism, including the precept to love one’s fellow as oneself (Vayikra 19:18), to do that which is just and good (D’varim 6:18), and not to torment one’s fellow (Vayikra 25:17).
Additionally, although there are various opinions as to the extent of this obligation (see this answer and answers to this question), Jewish law requires a Jew to observe secular law in the jurisdiction to which the Jew is subject. This would be yet another reason to prohibit such relationships in this day and age.
IV.
Circling back around to your question about that website misrepresenting the Talmud and Jewish law, the website was wrong in multiple ways.
A child under three cannot be married to a kohein or anyone else. The age of three has technical relevance as discussed in section I. above.
According to R’ Shim’on, woman who had converted to Judaism before the age of three can marry either a kohein or a non-kohein, and there is no reason for a kohein to prefer her over anyone else. (According to the Rabbis, only a non-kohein may marry her).
Talmudic Jews determine the halacha not simply by reading Tannaitic literature, but by considering the entire corpus of Jewish law all the way until contemporary times.
Jewish law does not endorse pedophilia, and the Talmud castigates those who would “play” with young girls. Although teenage marriage was common during much of Jewish history, and some medieval communities took the legally controversial approach of marrying off their preteen daughters, Jewish law would not sanction behavior that is understood to be psychologically unhealthy, traumatic, or illegal.
The website that produced the claims in your question is anti-Semitic and anti-Israel. This answer by Danno discusses this general sort of attack on the Talmud and Judaism:
These attacks are usually amalgamations of the following:
Pure invention — some of the books listed don’t exist or the quotes are fabrications
Mistranslations or selective quoting
Out of context quotes (statements made in the course of a protracted legal argument presented as definitive statements of belief or statements made to make a legal point being cited as normative practice).
There are plenty of sites which go through “quotes” like these and explain them one at a time. People who cite the attack pages rarely learn or read the original material or read the responses and understand the legal subtleties involved.
1Literally, the translation is, “A female convert below three years and one day is permissible for the k’huna.” That the meaning is as rendered in the body of this answer is evident from the context of the subsequent talmudic passage as well as the classic Talmudic commentators (e.g. Rashi, s.v. “כשרה לכהונה”). Additionally, the Jerusalem Talmud (Kiddushin 46a) explicitly renders the b’raisa‘s quote as, “a female convert who had converted below three years and one day…” (” תני בשם ר’ שמעון גיורת שנתגיירה פחותה מבת שלש שנים ויום אחד כשירה לכהונה”).
The Talmud brings R’ Shim’on’s opinion to contrast with the opinion of the other Rabbis who rule that a kohein may not marry a convert regardless of the age at which she converted; according to the Rabbis, all female converts have the status of zona with respect to marrying a kohein.
2This verse describes the aftermath of the Israelites’ retributive war against Midian (B’midbar 31). Moshe commanded the Jewish people to slay all Midianite males and all females of age three and above, as Midian participated in Bil’am’s scheme to seduce the Jewish men and entice them to worship idolatry. According to R’ Shim’on bar Yochai’s opinion, the phrase “keep them alive for yourselves” implies that all female Midianite captives who were captured below the age of three could eventually be suitable marriage partners for all the soldiers in the war. Since Pinchas was a kohein, and he participated in the war, this implies that these women would be permissible for marriage to kohanim. The Talmud continues and states that R’ Shim’on’s colleagues interpreted “keep them alive for yourselves” differently, namely that the captives could be taken as maidservants.
4Although the context of the Talmudic passage makes it clear that it is condemning men who marry children, there are different ways to interpret why the Talmud says that converts delay the coming of the Messiah. See this chat comment, as well as this and subsequent chat comments for various interpretations mentioned in Tosafos on Kiddushin 70b, s.v. “קשים גרים”.
6The Ritva (Y’vamos 61b, ”
וסוגיין הכא ובכל דוכתין דמותר לבעול אשה שאינה בת בנים כלל… וכדשרו בכל דוכתי נשואי קטנה וזקנה”), Tosafos (Y’vamos 12b, s.v. “שלש נשים”), the Mordechai (ad loc.), the Rama (EH 31:5), and possibly the Rosh (Responsum 33:3), however, disagree with the Shulchan Aruch and the Rambam. These opinions maintain that sexual relations with a minor girl is technically permitted in the context of marriage, though both the marriage and the relations would be discouraged by the talmudic sources mentioned above.
7See, for example, the ruling of R’ Chaim Benveniste in K’nesset HaG’dola (EH 37:9).
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