* Much of what Sailer does is meta-journalism. He writes about how journalists are spinning things. This killing relates to what he has already written about: journalists bizarrely claiming it’s silly not to want to let muslim immigrants in because it’s their children who are dangerous.
Also, Sailer is not a news service. If he doesn’t have anything interesting to say about a certain event why should he write about it?
If you are going to criticise Sailer, at least make it a reasonable criticism such as how he has let another anniversary of Paul Walker’s death pass by without commemoration. I thought maybe he was just late, but it has been like three days. Shameful!
* The Washington Post story on the article reports that he shot up an “annual gathering” of department employees. That “annual gathering” appears to have been…a Christmas Party. And it appears to have been a planned attack.
In other words he murdered them because they were practicing their culture and celebrating Christmas. God forbid.
Muslims murdering non-Muslims who were having a quasi-religious/cultural celebration. That qualifies not only as terrorism, but as a “hate crime.”
* Early on in the investigation into the Boston Marathon bombings all we knew was that the bombing occurred on tax day, there were two men involved, and they were both white. Lots of speculation, of course, that due to those facts they were probably right-wing extremists. I commented, however, that there were three reasons why it still probably wasn’t: first, they had used bombs; second, they had chosen a random group of people rather than a political target; third, more than one person was involved.
Bombs generally imply some limited amount of training. A random target implies you hate everyone, instead of having some specific political agenda.
The latter point – multiple perps – is especially important. Every group has its kooks. Those groups where large numbers of people seem to feel comfortable sharing their violent fantasies with their fellow ideologues are the ones you really need to fear. It’s how you identify a group where hatred is truly part of the ideology. Hatred is truly an essential element of Islam.
* The killer has a dating profile:
“religios but modern family of 4, 2girls 2boys I work for county as health,safety and envorimental inspector. Enjoy working on vintage and modern cars, read religios books, enjoy eating out sometimes travel and just hang out in back yard doing target pratice with younger sister and friends. ”
His literacy level is about that of a 7th grader. Maybe worse, using the word “religios” twice. He made $70,000 in his mid 20′s last year working for the local government, no doubt with some very expensive pension and benefit plan. While an environmental inspector of some sort, he also does not know how to spell “environmental.”
* My thoughts and prayers are with those who are devastated by the news that the shooter was not a white male.
* In the picture I have seen of the identified male shooter he looks quite handsome.
This seems to be a genuine difference between Muslim terrorists and white mass shooters – the latter are usually goofy-looking, often insane losers while the former are sometimes rather dashing and have girlfriends or wives which they’re willing to throw away for a perceived greater cause.
* They planned this out – dropped off their baby with the husband’s mother, falsely claiming they had a doctor’s appointment. The kerfluffle at the Christmas Party (I thought those were unconstitutional on government property, these days?) was most likely a provocation to provide an excuse for them to leave and suit up (didn’t want to leave the guns out in the car, wanted to ensure maximal number of potential victims were present).
Yet again, nobody rushed the shooters while they reloaded (they weren’t disciplined enough to maintain continuous fire by alternating their reload cycles), nobody tried to interfere by throwing objects, etc.
The only shooting incident in recent memory where the attacker was foiled was the one on the train in France. It was US servicemen who subdued him.
In addition to all the negative social effects of having a ‘professional’ military set apart from the citizenry (out of sight, out of mind; far easier to launch wars of choice), the end of conscription means that the vast majority of the citizenry have no conception at all of how to defend themselves.
Going up unarmed against an active shooter is something that most people who haven’t received the relevant training and conditioning simply haven’t the intestinal fortitude to contemplate. All these ‘active shooter’ drills – like the ones which reportedly took place at the San Bernardino shooting site – are essentially ‘cowering-in-place’ exercises, and are as wrongheaded and harmful as pre-9/11 airline hijacking institutionalized submission and conciliation on the part of airline crews and passengers.
And I will point out the obvious; if only one or two citizens in that facility had been armed (no security guards?), this massacre could’ve been cut short.
* Muslims cannot integrate into Western Germanic (a.k.a. northern European) society … period. There is too much of a gap in religious and social beliefs and values. The new Muslim communities in Europe and North America will remain insular and separated from society at large. If the immigration continues, the animosities and inconsistencies between Islam and Western culture will eventually reach a critical mass and precipitate civil strife and civil war in the Western countries.
My religious evidence? The Koran. My experience? Two decades of working and living in the Middle East in the military and as a contractor.
Islam does not distinguish between church and state … hence, the widespread Muslim belief (even in the West) that apostates should be executed for religious and political treason. Muslim societies have been described as societies of “married monks”. There is truth to that. Just as Benedictine monks live by the Rule of St. Benedict, Muslims live by what they believe is the Rule of God (the Koran). If there is a question about religious or social issues, you refer to the Rule. Muslim religious, social, and political beliefs are completely antithetical to Western democracy and the rational traditions we inherited from the Greeks and Romans.
Since Moslem societies are family, clan, and tribal based, they have a weak concept of the nation state and majority rule. As a result, on the model of the first Caliphates, they tend to be ruled by strong men who keeps the peace by force of arms. Peter Frost correctly describes these as “clan-based, balance-of-terror ” societies. The need to maintain social and political peace through the threat of terror is real. (Sounds like everything we know about the Middle East, right?) The strong men get their legitimacy from religious councils of imans who judge that they rule the social and political order in accordance with the Koran. To conquer a neighboring state and imposed the Koran on the religious, social, and political order with the “sword” is to spread the Kindgom of God on earth.
Through two decades of experience, most of the young Moslem men I knew in the Middle East went through a stage of “testing the waters” with Western culture. However, by the time they were in their 30s, they seemed to suffer anomie — an identify crisis — and harden themselves in their Moslem faith. They became Muslim evangelists; they devoted the rest of their lives to jihad. Many of the young Moslem men I knew who spent their time in the West gambling, drinking, and whoring had became muṭawwi by their 30s … Muslim religious police enforcing Islamic social standards on the rest of the community. (These same mutawwi are now walking the streets in some neighborhoods in the UK and France.)
The Islamic view of women and human relationships is 180-degrees from the West. They believe that women (rather than men) have uncontrollable sexual desire and therefore must be restrained under lock and key and hidden from the public … hence, the hijab, to the chador, to the burqa. There is no such thing as dating. Women are bought and sold among families and clans in the pursuit of business and political alliances.
CONCLUSIONS
1. A Muslim living and trying to integrate into Western society cannot help but eventually suffer anomie, defined as a breakdown of social norms and values. Islam and the West are that different. (Yes, having one foot in the 21st Century and one foot in the 7th Century can drive a young person crazy.) They must, it seems, eventually choose to be Muslim or Western. They cannot be both. Hence, iSteve is correct that it is the descendants of Muslim immigrants who are the greatest threat to Western societies. It should also be no surprise that young Muslim men and women are streaming by the thousands from the West and neighboring Islamic states to join ISIS’ war on the West . Eventually, we will see the violence spread en masse to the West … perhaps sooner than we think.
2. Muslims (as believing Moslems) can never integrate into Western society. Their religion prevents it. Their religion requires them to war against unbelief and unbelievers, and the West and its culture represents everything that Islam considers sinful. Hence, they must continually work to keep local Islamic communities in the West hermetically isolated and Islamic as they try, as a religious duty, to Islamisize Western society and its religious and political culture.
* Any devout Muslim working as a restaurant inspector in California and traveling to one haraam, pork-serving establishment after another is likely to go unhinged.
* DailyMail initially had headline of ‘Guns kill 14 ….’. It was the guns that did it, not the people using them. This has many bizarre aspects, including the participation of a young mother in a mass shooting; bizarre from our point of view, not from theirs. They just had all these guns and tactical gear laying around the house? How does one just suddenly spring into action with their wife on short notice for something like this?
Media spin is already whirring. They’ll put it into context along with other mass killings so as to downplay the Muslim aspect even as it seems to be the primary driver of this. Perhaps they’ll claim he was discriminated against and that made him snap. CAIR swung into action pretty fast to help shape the public perception of of this sudden jihadi eruption.
* Had the wife Malik survived after murdering fourteen innocents and firing on police and tossing bombs at them, she’d have been one of those widows whom Republicans, Obama mocked, are so unreasonable as to fear.
But since she’s dead we’ve no one to fear without reason except her orphan.
* Just as there are statistics on rates of murder by blacks, whites, etc. it would be useful to have statistics on *rates* of mass murders by individuals or groups of white Christians, black Christians, Muslims, Asians, immigrants, native Muslims, immigrant Mislims, etc. A simple comparison of numbers of mass murders by natives and immigrants does not allow for the fact that there are many more natives than immigrants. And there are many more Christians than Muslims, just as there are many more whites than blacks.
* I’m a little confused; should these shooters be classified as widows or orphans?
* You could feel the frisson of excitement in the media class at the thought they were white shooters, maybe even Trump supporters. Reminds me of the Boston bombing or the live TV shootings, the disappointment you could sense in the reporting when it turned out it was the usual suspects.
* “Cool AK-47, Farooq. Want to bring it by the White House?”
* The news channels are trying to propagandize the shooting as another example in a series of events of gun violence. None of them will give a timeline of Muslim violence over the last two decades. Why aren’t journalists questioning Obama on the Syria refugee policy?
* And their child is now one of those orphans Obama ridiculed us for being fearful of. And yet, isn’t it rational to be worried about what the child of two shahids will grow up to be?
* If you look at the racial breakdown [in US mass shootings compiled by Mother Jones]:
Asian 6
Black 11
Latino 4
Mixed 1
Native American 3
Other 2
Unknown 1
White 44
It shows clearly that whites are underrepresented compared to their proportion of the population (especially since this goes back to 1982, when whites were an even larger percentage).
However, Asians are vastly over-represented.
* Black lives apparently don’t matter to Mother Jones. There was a “mass shooting” (Negros-on-Negros) at Bunny Friend Park in NOLA. Seventeen victims. I didn’t see it listed.
In fact, Mother Jones does not list any of the birthday party, graduation party, gangsta funeral, and drive-by “mass shootings” so common in the Negro and Mexican community.
I have to think there is some SJW political reason they ignore all this black suffering. Or maybe black lives don’t matter to Mother Jones unless enough of them actually die in a single incident (as opposed to being perforated by bullets and living their lives as a gork in a wheelchair).
* There have been innumerable NON-deadly mass shootings by more than one shooter. Most recently, several Negro males shot up crowded Bunny Friend Park in NOLA, perforating at least 17 people.
The reason they limit their reporting to “deadliest shootings” is to carve out Negro mass shootings like Bunny Friend, which are much more numerous. Negros are impulsive and notoriously bad shots. Their preferred mode of mass shooting (at funerals, parties, graduations and street gatherings alike) is “spray-and-pray”.
* The New York Times is suggesting that an “American” committed the crime, not a sainted foreigner, immigrant, or illegal alien.
As an “American” from birth, his homicidal impulses must be a product of his “American” upbringing.
Ergo, if you hate the shooter you should really hate your “American” self and your “American” culture too, and not Muslims, foreigners, immigrants, or illegal aliens.
* “American dream” has long been used sarcastically by the Brits as one of their essential put-downs of the US, to be inserted as needed in any story involving 1) a shooting or 2) someone in economic distress. I’m not surprised it’s caught on with our media commentariat.
* They want “gun control” to disarm law abiding white Americans and make them defenseless against their minority thug street soldiers. Illegal weapons coming in across the border would find their way precisely into the hands of the type of people they want to see armed.
* Inviting muslims into your country is kind of like building on the shore in Florida. It invites disaster.
Maybe insurance companies could start offering Jihad riders on their policies. But they wouldn’t pay out for muslims, because – for them – it would be an act of God.
* Some of my lib Facebook “friends” have been posting that there have been more than 365 mass shootings in the U.S. this year. They cite this Reddit page, listing every mass shooting.
For each mass shooting on the list, they have a link to a news article about the shooting. Having randomly clicked on several links, I was shocked, SHOCKED to find that virtually all of them are blacks shooting other blacks.
* If this incident doesn’t get Trump elected, nothing will.
And if Trump doesn’t run with this the entire way to the White House, I will be shocked.
Yes, the election is 11 months away. Everything can change. Bush 41 was unstoppable after Gulf War 1 but the economy and Perot killed him and Bubba did a great job campaigning.
But 1) Sept. 11th’s pull on Bush 43 lasted a lot longer than Bush 41′s Gulf War victory—because the action happened on U.S. soil; 2) this massively bolster’s Trump’s biggest issue: immigration; 3) Paris was so recent; and 4) do we really think that NO Muslim terrorism will hit the news between now and the election; and 5) any downturn in the economy or other areas of the country hurts Clinton, not Trump, since she’s part of Obama now (and that must roil her).
Trump 2016. If he does half of what he promises, the country might be revived.
* Could there be a connection between guys like Farook working for the health department and the rash of e.coli outbreaks in America?
* This is something that citizens should be asking the great state of California.
How can someone with such poor literacy and demonstrated murderous intent get a job in the CA government.
Also, how many more Murderers has the CA government employed.
* If you work with a Muslim that 1) travels to Saudi Arabia and 2) starts wearing a long robe and 3) grows a beard, you better exercise your CCW right (if you have one).
* Reminds me of a gag I read at Chateau Heartiste the other day: until every Muslim on earth has participated in a terror attack, people will still say “they’re not all like that.”
* Though the lead shooter wasn’t technically an immigrant, had he been one who was granted legal status, he could have done the same thing, bring in a direct relative through family reunification. Thanks to the 1965 Immigration Act, legal immigrants and permanent residents are allowed to bring in certain direct family members in what some term chain migration.
This is why post 1965 immigration has been on steroids. Earlier, overwhelmingly European migration periods did not allow this. Hence, most of us palefaces always had stories about family ‘back in the old country’. Today family left behind in the third world will probably eventually make it here thanks to family reunification.
To allow for family reunification means that existing Americans gets little to no say over who comes in. So long as a newly minted citizen or permanent resident decides to invoke the family reunification rules, they get to determine the next batch of Americans.
Someone once compared this to a country club whose membership policy involved bringing in new members, and then immediately letting those new members select the next batch of members. Then the newest members in turn would be the only ones allowed to select the next members, and so on. Of course no club would do this. What long-standing members would allow such a policy that removes their right to choose new members?
But family reunification in effect does this to the US. Our newest members get to determine, without our consent, who the newest Americans will be.
Let’s discuss this NYT. Why was he able to bring in this woman? Did ICE get to check her out, or was she green-lighted because of family reunification?
* You have to understand that this is a great victory — for Muslims. I expect a ban on all Christmas parties — they cause Muslims to go on shooting rampages, etc. Also inch-by-inch bans on pork, alcohol, and unveiled women. That stuff will happen gradually, likely by a pork ban in all government agencies.
As it stands now, Muslim society is far, far more successful than White ones BECAUSE IT IS VIOLENT. Yes, Muslim peoples live in a nest of scorpions like Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Afghanistan, Libya, and Pakistan. Excuse me, Paaaahhhhk-eeeee-stan (the correct media pronunciation). BUT — their way of life does not get erased. On the contrary, it has conquered or is in the process of conquering other people’s way of life save perhaps Japan, and possibly China (which has both repressed and surrendered to Muslims).
Muslims ability to get various other Muslims to band together to kill people to assert territorial control and crush competing ways of life is their critical advantage. White shooters are lone nut cases, and they don’t accomplish anything.
Speaking “beyond good and evil” ala Nietsche, the failure of White shooters to act in concert with other White shooters and critically to not have a drip-drip-drip of inspired murders creates a one-way street of fear. Governments know they cannot under their PC strictures get rid of Muslims, deport them, imprison them, or do much of anything other than respond to the latest shootings — so they Islamify society to cut off future shootings as their is no Big Man to make a deal with. Governments have to make their society Islamic to satisfy the mass of Muslims who are willing to band together to kill.
By contrast, there is no penalty for crushing White men because each is atomized. You don’t have constant territorial killings to preserve or expand their way of life. You don’t have organized punishment campaigns to expose the dirty dealings of elites and governments and make them pay in that form. The “best” White men can do is Anonymous which just targets big corporations and governments from a Left Wing perspective of not having more anti-White male stuff on hand.
* I knew within a hour it was terrorism, specifically the Muslim kind. The attack style was as Robert Baer pointed out common in the ME. Classical hit and run, the couple fully intended to get away. Fact is most Jihadis aren’t into suicide – they just prefer to murder people like any good psychopath.
I also saw how the MSM turned into a circus, refusing to release any details about the people involved – they always fall into this mode when the shooters are either Muslim or black, otherwise they release the info ASAP.
FoxNews was going nuts trying to spin this event as a workplace shooting and even as the authorities released the names of the suspects they continued to spin. Their reporters were literally oozing desperation. Never mentioning Islam or Jihad once. The other networks were just as bad. At least CNN had on Robert Baer who called it correctly.
And they all talk about finding the mysterious “motive”. They won’t mention ‘Islam’, they won’t mention ‘Jihad’, they can barely mention ‘terrorism’. Just like the Chattanooga shooting or the two community college rampages. No motive was ever found.
FoxNews is probably the worst, still calling yesterday’s jihadi incident possible “workplace violence”.
On one level the media and government response is a obscene joke but on another level it means we’re screwed as a nation. Because we’re not confronting the problem and that is Muslims. And in particular the notion that the more devout a Muslim becomes the greater the chances of him/her becoming a jihadi or supporting those who do. Jihad is part and parcel of Islam, it is mandated.
Recent PEW polls put support for jihad among American Muslims at 25%. With all those “Syrian” males being brought in it’s probably like 50%.
They just can’t wrap their tiny secular minds around the notion that Islam is a hyper violent and totalitarian system that cannot tolerate opposition of any kind. There is no golden rule in Islam, there is no notion of tolerance, compassion, etc.
* I think it’s worth pointing out that pre-”Militarized Police” in California might’ve had a much harder time dealing with these two than the post-”Militarized Police” did. The sort of trouble the former had with those two bank robbers who were armed to the teeth and wearing body armor, said trouble being one of the things that led Cali police to “Militarize” in the first place.
* I have noticed that severe and blatant paradox in the list of demands that the Black Autumn extortion mobs are giving to college administrators that largely agree with them anyway. They want no armed cops, no private policing, no policing period, private or public, yet they are demanding various things that can only happen via public or quasi-public force. I guess what they presume is that since they live in a high social trust high altruism world where people naturally and without coercion or force abide by laws or quasi-laws or edicts, they presume that all of society can behave that way without the need for even one armed or unarmed cop.
* I don’t think it’s a bad idea to slow down the gun buying process for the lone nut category like the guy who shot Rep. Giffords. Why not require that gun buyers need to be accompanied by a friend who would sign a register? This would slow down that type of shooter. On the other hand, organized, serious minded groups of individuals willing to die in a cause will always be able to obtain some kind of weapons.
* Turkey has been a firmly secular country for a fairly long time, but unfortunately, it is eroding, because Islamists form the majority of the population, and soon the secular population won’t have a stronghold on power, if they even do now. (Turkey latched onto Kemal Ataturk in a religious way, but that’s another story.) For those who will bring him up, it may seem crazy in hindsight, but Erdogan initially ran as a politically moderate, Western-friendly businessman, and he swore up and down that that his personal religious beliefs would not interfere with his upholding the values of secularism.
* How about rolling back citizenship and extending ownership rights to citizens. But that’s the opposite of what the global elite want – if you swamp the country with people who are not connected to the culture that brought forth the constitution, the constitution, and nation-state will be no more. that’s the goal.
* Jesus Christ, Mary and Joseph.
Today, I was walking though the supermarket and I told the two Hispanic women babbling into their cell phones to, and, quoting myself, “STOP SPEAKING SPANISH. YOU’RE NOT IN MEXICO.”
I really, really did. And, frankly, if anyone wanted to make more of it I was ready to go.
And here is the deal: YOU ARE ALL SO DAMN WEAK.
Listen, I’m a TTT lawyer who, in fact, passed the bar whilst drunk of my ass. And, I get it. Watching that Traveler, Joyce, I understand that I am stronger, harder, that most people. Lord, I go to the mall with my 1911 just hoping I can go out in a pile of brass (CORBON, mother F*kers) and just to quip nonchalantly whilst my life bleeds outta me:
THE SNACK BAR IS CLOSED.
Yet, for all of the violence and double talk, none of you Istevers can do it. Well, Twinkie maybe, and that crazy Finnish chick, but, for the most part, sound and fury (millions of words of it.) It pisses me off – the Cathedrals, the Cars, the Catharsis.
* I have had the pleasant experience of reimagining various war movies with an all female cast; I think that “Gettysburg” would have been a much better movie if it had had an all female cast, and a nude bayonet charge led by Colonel Jennifer Chamberlain in defense of Little Round Tops would be, for me, quite inspirational.
