* He said that he would “expedite” the return of the “good” illegals once they had left the country and re-applied for entry. Said there were a lot of good, hard-working, honest people who had lived here for a long time and that they deserved to have their legal re-entry “expedited”. But said he would make the “criminal” illegals leave so fast your head would spin. Also said he never liked the word “alien” and preferred “illegal immigrant.”
If he’s going to let the 80%+ of illegals who are not criminals come right back again after being deported, how is this different than just giving them an amnesty while they’re here? A token requirement that they briefly leave the country before he “expedites” their return is meaningless.
I thought he got it: we want America to remain a white majority (a growing white majority) country. That’s why he zoomed into first place in the Republican race. But apparently he doesn’t get it. If he’s going to let all the “good” illegals back in, what’s the difference between his plan and Obama’s or any other amnesty? They all promise to make the criminals leave. Big deal.
For the record, here’s my transcript of Trump on Hannity, talking about letting the “good” illegals back into the country on an expedited basis (starting at minute 10:00 of the third block of the Hannity radio program on 10/26, from Hannity’s web site):
Hannity: “Why do we as a nation…why do people get outraged at the idea that you’re saying ‘go back, and if you’ve been a law-abiding citizen, then you can come back legally’…
Trump: Right.
Hannity: …and everyone freaks out. Why?
Trump: Well, if you noticed when I said that this morning in New Hampshire, I got a tremendous ovation. It was one of the biggest ovations I had was when I said, ‘you have to go out, and we’re gonna come back, and we’re gonna expedite, because you know, that’s fair, they’ve been here for a long time, some of ‘em have been here for very very long, and they’ve done fine, and some of them great, some of them really good, they’ve been great people to be in the country, and we expedite. But you know Sean, you have tremendous bad ones, you have a lot of the gangs in L.A., you have many many illegal – you used to say aliens, I’ve never used that word actually, I never liked that word, and I hear now it’s politically correct to do it, so for the first time I’m OK with political correct – but I call it illegal immigration, illegal immigrants. You have a lot of ‘em here in gangs and you have a lot of them that are really tough dudes and we gotta get ‘em out. And we’re gonna get them out so fast your head will spin.
How is this not essentially an amnesty? What difference does it make to just require them to leave the country for a token period of time?
I predict that when word of this gets around, Trump will plunge in the polls. All the man had going for him, as far as I’m concerned, was that he was going to make the illegals all leave. We assumed that meant for good.
* I heard the interview, also. Basically he was proposing one of the plans from the early 2000s, in which illegals leave the country for some period of time but many are let back in. I think it totally depends on the numbers that are let back in. If it’s 80%, yes, that’s way too high. Twenty percent who created viable businesses? I might be able to live with a couple million — so long as future illegal immigration is well and truly stopped.
* There will be no plunge in the polls. Trump has been saying it this way all along and has not changed his position one iota.
* Exactly – what defines what is a “good” illegal who deserves to be “expedited” back into the country? His statement on Hannity sounded like the fact that they were here for a long, long time already ought to weigh in the decision.
Trump is very big on not giving away concessions in negotiating any sooner than you have to. Here the election is a year away and he’s already massively qualified his statement about “they all have to go.” What difference does it make if they go, if they’re just coming back again? Hell if they’re coming back again, don’t waste their bus money and make them jump through that pointless hoop. Just amnesty them right here. And you know very well that that is the next “compromise” that will be offered: “these really good people, really great people, been here a long, long time – it’s really unnecessary to make them leave, just to turn around and come back again. And we’re getting rid of the real tough dudes, that’s what matters.”
Trump never had much credibility with me because of his blowhard statements about how rich he is and how he’s nice to people so they better be nice to him, etc. What he had going for him was adopting Sen. Sessions’ immigration plan and making blunt plain statements about how the illegals have to go. For me, to hear that he’s already, at this early point, stating that the “good” ones can come back on an “expedited” basis shows that he doesn’t get it, after all. It’s not about legality or illegality of immigrants. It’s about maintaining a majority white population. And that means at the very least that ALL the illegals have to go, for good. (And if they’re such great people, then they will be nice, hard-working assets for their homelands, which need people like that.)
I have to say that I’d completely given up on ever voting again but was seriously considering voting if Trump won the Republican nomination, just on the outside chance it might save a white America without a civil war…but with this nonsense about “expediting” the “good” illegals’ re-entry, I’m back to saying to hell with voting.
And yes, there is an alternative to Trump for right-wing voters: not voting at all, and letting the whole s**t-house go up in flames that much faster.
* Many Somalia were placed in the south, in accord with your reasoning. They were unhappy with the local blacks and the stingy freebies. The community was quite proactive finding a more congenial spot, sending their own to check them out.
Maine with its 99% white population and decent welfare benefits despite being a poor state, won the competition, or lost depending on your viewpoint. And so it came to pass that Lewiston and portland now host a growing Somali community. In addition, maine is one of the few states that allow asylum applications to be made locally instead of overseas. The governor is trying to change that rule.
This situation demonstrates the “free rider” problem in a big way. A high trust white society comprised of french Canadians and the descendants of puritan’s build an adequate social safety net for their own, despite their meager resources. Only to be overwhelmed with alien freeloaders.
* One positive I can see is that if the illegals are made to leave and then apply for readmission, their numbers should count toward the quota of Mexicans we let in legally every year anyway, right?
