* I think you have to distinguish between hatred of white nationalists and hatred of white people in general. Your average Scardsale orthodontist doesn’t have much dislike of the WASP family next door, but would get uncomfortably very quickly if the White Students Union showed up.
Remember, the elite has to convince Jews not to intermarriage or their clout shrinks. So they try to play up Jewish identity.
* Belloc was remarkably prescient about the Muslims, writing that they would one day be a far greater threat to Western Civilization than either Nazism or Communism. Given when this was written (right before WW2), people must have thought he was insane.
* “What one needs to understand about Jews is that their shell game is all based on identity.”
Replace “Jews” with “ethnic groups” and you are spot on. Listen, why should anyone be surprised regarding identity politics? The coalition of the fringes from both sides of the aisle have been upping the ante for the past two decades.
“The Jewish identity is *one big country club* based on identity. That’s the irony. That’s why they get their shit so torn up on the subject and why they go to great lengths to destroy everyone else’s.”
As opposed to any other group who also engages in similar tactics. There’s no irony, here.
“All their rituals are self-reinforcing markers for in-group identity.”
As are the Christians, the Muslims, the white nationalists, the black nationalists, etc.
“They aren’t a race, they aren’t a religion, they aren’t a culture.”
Actually, Jews are all three, just like whites and blacks and Hispanics are all three.
“They are a mutually serving, externally exploiting, self-identifying in-group of parasites. That’s all that they are.”
Jews? Really? Not any other group?
“Have you not noticed that *everything*, and I mean *everything* these days is about identity?”
American history has demonstrated that it ALWAYS has been about identity. Where have you been?
* Right, a commenter pointed out that a boxing analogy applies: you want to get the government to arrange the affirmative action categories so that your family comes in at the top of your assigned weight class, not at the bottom.
For example, the government used to lump Asians and Pacific Islanders together, but for the 2000 Census, Hawaiian activists got Pacific Islanders broken out separately because it wasn’t doing them any good in terms of affirmative action to have to compete with Chinese and Indians.
It would be disastrous for Jews to be administratively broken out from whites in a separate category, because they tend to weigh in near the top of the white weight class. Jewish organizations have vetoed all attempts to have a “Jewish” category, even where it would be obviously applicable, even on the “Ancestry” question where whites are asked to pick a single ancestral nationality, such as German, English, or Scots-Irish. There are no affirmative action benefits tied to Ancestry figures, but you are still not allowed to pick Jewish.
On the other hand, for cultural/psychological/guilt-induction purposes, there are obvious advantages from getting out from under the straight white male bogeyman category.
* When Jews fill out college, job and other applications, do 99.99% put down white? Yes.
If you stop a random Jew on the street and ask him, does he say he’s white? 99.99% of the time yes.
Even when jews know they will suffer from affirmative action in admission and employment, 99.99% say they are white.
But no, let’s highlight the 1 in a million (maybe at most 1 in 10,000) Jew who thinks he’s not white because as a liberal he doesn’t believe races exist since not even he believes that Jews cluster with blacks or Orientals.
Genetically Jews are a different ethnicity from Swedes or Germans, but racially clearly cluster as part of one white race. That an ethnic group differs is always the case which is why the Poles look Polish, not Irish. The Jews are, however, part of the same haplogroup as other Meds: Italians, Greeks, etc. All of them are J-haplogroup, which is part of the white cluster of haplogroups.
Jews look white because they are in fact white. That’s why blacks and Orientals don’t look white even if they are 75% white and only 25% another race. But a jew can be 100% Jewish and in some cases you can’t tell (just look at all the people Jew watch got wrong).
* When Germany was strong (before 1914), most Jews tried to become “good Germans” (undoubtedly “in good faith”); but after Germany had become weak (1918), most Jews were much less interested in being German (even if the Kaiser had been removed).
I suppose, in this case – as in so many others – Jews were only the precursors of a modern tendency: investing in national identity according to the capital (reputation, opportunities) which comes with this identity.
* Saul Goodman from Breaking Bad and the main diamond merchant from Snatch pretend to be Jews. Interestingly, the former does so to trick gentiles into believing that he is a smart Jewish lawyer while the latter does so to integrate with the Jewish diamond trading community.
Indeed, it seems like a minor trope in Hollywood and big budget TV; which makes sense considering how disproportionately Jewish that industry is. Gentile writers and directors, like the British quasi aristocrat Guy Ritchie, seem to have almost considered passing. Then again, the fact that you can joke about it probably means that it is not very important.
* The point about pretending to be a Jew is that no-one would know that you were pretending. I suspect that the only thing you would find is that you have the same level of instant bond with Jews as if you were from the same home town or supported the same football team. Which is significant and useful but not life-changing.
The level of bonding would also be highly dependent on the other person. I benefit from a similar asabbiyah, as I went to boarding school, so I think that I get it. Essentially by just going to boarding school you share a reasonable number of experiences and that creates group feeling and trust with all other boarders not just those at the same school…but not that much! (It’s an easy and fun opening topic of conversation with its own jokes.)
* It is always risky to look for one cause for things, but the book “Resentment Against Achievement” by Robert Sheaffer, comes very close. (I realize that others, like von Mises in “The Anti-Capitalistic Mentality” have made similar arguments).
It explains both black anger and white guilt pretty well.
And the beauty of Sheaffer’s theory is that it does not need to take either race or IQ for its explanatory power.
* How does it work? Show up at your local Reform temple and tell them you’re interested in the religion. They’re pretty lax about it (they’re lax about everything). Even the Orthodox will let you in if you pester them enough. You’ll have to waste a lot of time reading arcane religious texts though.
* My best friend’s dad was in the garment business in L.A. He wound up with an accent just like Milton Berle’s, though he had been Irish Catholic who dropped out of Yale on 12.8.41 to join the Army.
* On the one hand, it’s true that people (not just Jews) tend to tout their experiences, no matter how lame, to prove their in-group membership. My father was a concentration camp survivor – one of those guys you see in the documentaries with the striped uniform and their ribs showing). When he first came to the US, one of his first jobs was in a kosher butcher shop. One day one of his customers said to him something like, “You know, we didn’t have it easy here either during the war – we had ration cards and you could only get chicken once per week.” This to a man who had spent four years living on watery turnip soup (he never ate a turnip again in his life). He wanted to say to her, “Lady, you have no f-ing idea”, but he held his tongue.
On the other hand, one should not gloss over the pervasiveness and effect of anti-Semitism in America in its heyday (’20 thru ’50s) and which persisted in some respects into the 1970s. Compared to Europe and compared to the treatment of blacks in America (or Japanese Americans during WWII) , American Jews were certainly lucky, but that just means that instead of being atrocious, their treatment was just nasty. The “country club” thing is just one aspect of pervasive anti-Semitism that meant Jews were excluded (sometimes except for small quotas) from top universities, jobs in big business and major law firms, living in certain neighborhoods, staying at certain hotels, etc. Of course American Jews were able to create their own “separate but equal” institutions, but being a 2nd class citizen in a country that was, according to its founding documents, non-sectarian, was no small thing and it is right that we not sweep this history under the rug or poo-poo it as no big deal.
* A lot of Jewish pundits who criticize European Americans, aka, “whites,” as a group (Frank Rich for example) and celebrate its passing as the majority (fill in the blank) certainly act like they don’t consider themselves white. These columns somehow comes across as being more about “them” than “us.” Similarly, when the alpha male economist Paul Samuelson advocated for NAFTA and free trade with low-wage Goliaths like China, it seemed that he had already calculated in the back of his mind, perhaps unconsciously, that none of the people he knew, including his relatives, would be adversely affected. This is an argument for selecting our elites, as in Ivy League admissions, to better reflect the ethnic and geographical and, yes, the socio-economic diversity of America. In other words, affirmative action for all! Though it is largely forgotten, Charles Murray touches on this theme — in fact it is the theme — in his book, The Bell Curve. Ethnic and racial diversity is a bitch. A meritocracy in an ethnically and racially diverse society is even bitchier.
