Fact-Checking Snopes

From the Chateau:

Faceborg’s Mark Cuckersperg, smarting like a bruised betabuttboy from leftoid legacy media criticism that his platform aids in the dissemination of “fake news” (i.e., real news that doesn’t recapitulate the anti-White narrative), announced that the Winklevoss’s company would team up with a selection of “fact-checking” outfits to curate news feeds on Facedork and identify those deemed “fake” for immediate relocation to the gulag of criminal thoughts.

The reaction from the reactoshitsphere was pointed: but who will check the fact-checkers?

It’s a valid question. A working familiarity with fact-check websites reveals a decided leftoid slant. The owners of those sites will never admit to this bias, of course, but the facts (heh) bear it out. Media-darling “fact-checkers” are almost all leftoids.

Soccermombook listed Snopes as one of the four or five “fact-checkers” with whom they would collaborate to censor alt-right speech. Snopes is a popular “debunking” website favored by shitlibs, but there’s something everyone should know about the Snopes proprietors.

First, a wholesome photo of Snopes co-founders, David and Barbara Mikkelson (with obligatory libcat child substitute).

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This smug libfag would give Pajamaboy a run for Most Punchable Shitlib Face.

Our Snopes story took a darkly humorous turn, when news from America’s foremost paper of record recently surfaced that David Mikkelson divorced his first wife and is accused of embezzling $100K from his company to spend on prostitutes and on his second wife, a chubby ho who is (still!) an escort and a former porn star, (“star” being used loosely here… literally loosely).

The second wife, Elyssa Young:

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Now a DailyMail.com investigation reveals that Snopes.com’s founders, former husband and wife David and Barbara Mikkelson, are embroiled in a lengthy and bitter legal dispute in the wake of their divorce.

He has since remarried, to a former escort and porn actress who is one of the site’s staff members.

They are accusing each other of financial impropriety, with Barbara claiming her ex-husband is guilty of ’embezzlement’ and suggesting he is attempting a ‘boondoggle’ to change tax arrangements, while David claims she took millions from their joint accounts and bought property in Las Vegas.

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David Mikkelson told the Dailymail.com that Snopes does not have a ‘standardized procedure’ for fact-checking ‘since the nature of this material can vary widely.’ He said the process ‘involves multiple stages of editorial oversight, so no output is the result of a single person’s discretion.’

He also said the company has no set requirements for fact-checkers because the variety of the work ‘would be difficult to encompass in any single blanket set of standards.’

You’ve been FACT CHECKED, bitches!

It’ll be fun reading Snopebook try to “fact-check” and censor inconvenient FBI crime stats by race and well-tested group IQ differences. Assuming, that is, Snopes isn’t quietly jettisoned as a potential Facesperg client, losing out on millions of middle-aged fatty escort-purchasing dollars.

Just when I think 2016 can’t deliver any more Trump-branded goodness, the next day brings a fresh batch of WINNING.

PS The Mikkelsons (second iteration) have a wedding website, where you can fact check the size of Elyssa’s upper arms.

PPS There are 147 reviews on Elyssa’s heavily-airbrushed escort service website, all of them positive. (Imagine that!) You have to wonder at the level of emasculation needed to happily wife up an actual whore (and single mom) who continues flaunting the carousel of cock she rode, and still rides, on her escort blog.

PPPS The Mikkelson-Young wedding party is a glimpse into the lives of socially atomized prototypical shitlibs:

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Bridesmen and groomswomen. The gay is strong in this wedding. The best man was the bride’s stepfather. Sad and solitary David Mikkelson needs a friend-check. And a family check. The only people he knows willing to be his “groomswomen” are his employees. He has to pay for witnesses to his wedding.

PPPPS MPC has an entertaining thread on this story.

* She accused him of embezzling money for himself and his hoes. Here’s how he justified that:
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David and his attorneys countered that the India visit was a legitimate business trip, and that he only expensed a fraction – 22.5 per cent – of the total cost of the excursion.
He said he was considering setting up a fact-checking website in India, and wanted to get a sense of the culture. He also said he went to Buenos Aires to attend an international fact-checking conference.

PLEASE TO BE INVESTIGATING THE REPORTS OF FRAUDULENT POOP IN THE STREETS

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David kept their joint baseball card collection, a savings account with $1.59 million balance, and other savings worth more than $300,000. They also agreed to split the company checking account’s $240,000 balance at the end of 2015 after his salary had been paid and a $50,000 float left.

Daily Mail sneaks in some low blows of its own:
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That has not ended the difficulty however; court documents show that a decision on David’s salary for 2016 became bogged down in legal argument when Barbara refered it to an arbiter, and the appointment of the arbiter became itself a matter of dispute.
Snopes.com will be asked by Facebook to be an arbiter on the veracity of news.
Attorneys for the former husband and wife also conducted a lengthy exchange on what was actually true about the actions of the former couple.

Finally, the new Snopes’ main fact checker is a dominatrix who runs a smutty web site dedicated to smut. She describes her work at Snopes:
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Describing her day-off activities on another blog, she wrote that she ‘played scrabble, smoked pot, and posted to Snopes.’ She added, ‘That’s what I did on my day “on,” too.’

Yes, yes of course and you knew this was coming:
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In others posts, LaCapria claimed to be ‘addicted to smutty HP [Harry Potter] fanfic.’

* His new wife may STILL WORKING AS AN ESCORT, her website is still up, so is her Twitter.

Her rates are ridiculous, does this look like a $500 an hour hooker to you?

* That whole Snopes thing started on usenet, where people with academic connections could status signal against folklore.urban. It was a way they could show their superiority to normies, dittoheads and AOL account holders. Then it moved to the web and became an institution. It was always SWPL-liberal but it was at least useful in combating that forwarded crap your relatives would email you.

Now the whole thing is like a bad 1980s televangelist scandal.

* A wedding where your wife’s sons are the Bridesmen (and have different last names), your Groomswomen are your employees, and where the terms “Bridesmam” and “Groomswoman” exist at all… it’s like some bad parody of nerds except it’s all very real

Goons and nerds like the idea they own truth and get to define what it is, since they have precious little else to feel valuable about in their lives. Hence why they like compiling lists of information (like Snopes).

Being the weak willed creatures they are, they couldn’t help but get co-opted by political operatives acting in bad faith to use up what little credibility they had to further their own ends. Good luck being cited anymore, Snopes.

* Most men don’t expect to marry a virgin these days but imagine if your wife had 147 reviews on an escort review website, in Elyssa’s case they’re almost universally positive but that would only invoke more suspicion, if she’s so good at pleasing men then how would you know if she really loves you or not?

* The whore that is addicted to Harry Potter erotica which features explicit sex scenes between adults and children debunked PizzaGate? Brava.

* The best response to the “fake news” theory is that mass reporting is made up of multiple levels and that the bottom level, the phony articles passed around on Facebook, is relatively benign compared to the corruption at the higher levels. In fact, the idea that “fake news elected Donald Trump” is itself a kind of fake news, a partisan talking point used to delegitimize election results and make excuses for the no-message, no-energy Hillary campaign.

The major media sources have all acquitted themselves terribly over this campaign, from deliberately pumping up Trump early on because they thought Hillary could beat him to collaborating with campaigns to printing egregiously slanted “analysis” and attempting coordinated hits. Of course the media does not report on its own revolving door problem, it no longer even bothers observing that George Stephanopolis was a key figure in the Clinton administration, or that most reporters identify as liberal, or that media culture is itself stridently liberal and works closely with liberal groups while keeping conservative groups at arm’s length.

FORBES: Thus, when I reached out to David Mikkelson, the founder of Snopes, for comment, I fully expected him to respond with a lengthy email in Snopes’ trademark point-by-point format, fully refuting each and every one of the claims in the Daily Mail’s article and writing the entire article off as “fake news.”
It was with incredible surprise therefore that I received David’s one-sentence response which read in its entirety “I’d be happy to speak with you, but I can only address some aspects in general because I’m precluded by the terms of a binding settlement agreement from discussing details of my divorce.”
This absolutely astounded me. Here was the one of the world’s most respected fact checking organizations, soon to be an ultimate arbitrator of “truth” on Facebook, saying that it cannot respond to a fact checking request because of a secrecy agreement.
In short, when someone attempted to fact check the fact checker, the response was the equivalent of “its secret.”
It is impossible to understate how antithetical this is to the fact checking world, in which absolute openness and transparency are necessary prerequisites for trust. How can fact checking organizations like Snopes expect the public to place trust in them if when they themselves are called into question, their response is that they can’t respond.
When I presented a set of subsequent clarifying questions to David, he provided responses to some and not to others. Of particular interest, when pressed about claims by the Daily Mail that at least one Snopes employee has actually run for political office and that this presents at the very least the appearance of potential bias in Snopes’ fact checks, David responded “It’s pretty much a given that anyone who has ever run for (or held) a political office did so under some form of party affiliation and said something critical about their opponent(s) and/or other politicians at some point. Does that mean anyone who has ever run for office is manifestly unsuited to be associated with a fact-checking endeavor, in any capacity?”
That is actually a fascinating response to come from a fact checking organization that prides itself on its claimed neutrality. Think about it this way – what if there was a fact checking organization whose fact checkers were all drawn from the ranks of Breitbart and Infowars? Most liberals would likely dismiss such an organization as partisan and biased. Similarly, an organization whose fact checkers were all drawn from Occupy Democrats and Huffington Post might be dismissed by conservatives as partisan and biased. In fact, when I asked several colleagues for their thoughts on this issue this morning, the unanimous response back was that people with strong self-declared political leanings on either side should not be a part of a fact checking organization and all had incorrectly assumed that Snopes would have felt the same way and had a blanket policy against placing partisan individuals as fact checkers.
In fact, this is one of the reasons that fact checking organizations must be transparent and open. If an organization like Snopes feels it is ok to hire partisan employees who have run for public office on behalf of a particular political party and employ them as fact checkers where they have a high likelihood of being asked to weigh in on material aligned with or contrary to their views, how can they reasonably be expected to act as neutral arbitrators of the truth?
Put another way, some Republicans believe firmly that climate change is a falsehood and that humans are not responsible in any way for climatic change. Those in the scientific community might object to an anti-climate change Republican serving as a fact checker for climate change stories at Snopes and flagging every article about a new scientific study on climate change as fake news. Yet, we have no way of knowing the biases of the fact checkers at Snopes – we simply have to trust that the site’s views on what constitutes neutrality are the same as ours.
When I asked for comment on the specific detailed criteria Snopes uses to screen its applicants and decide who to hire as a fact checker, surprisingly David demurred, saying only that the site looks for applicants across all fields and skills. He specifically did not provide any detail of any kind regarding the screening process and how Snopes evaluates potential hires. David also did not respond to further emails asking whether, as part of the screening process, Snopes has applicants fact check a set of articles to evaluate their reasoning and research skills and to gain insight into their thinking process.
This was highly unexpected, as I had assumed that a fact checking site as reputable as Snopes would have a detailed written formal evaluation process for new fact checkers that would include having them perform a set of fact checks and include a lengthy set of interview questions designed to assess their ability to identify potential or perceived conflicts of interest and work through potential biases.
Even more strangely, despite asking in two separate emails how Snopes assesses its fact checkers and whether it performs intra- and inter-rater reliability assessments, David responded only that fact checkers work together collaboratively and did not respond to further requests for more detail and did not answer whether Snopes uses any sort of assessment scoring or ongoing testing process to assess its fact checkers.

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Facebook Censorship

I previously got blocked from posting on Facebook for 48 hours because I quoted somebody using the word “fag.”

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Josh Gelernter In National Review: ‘A Conservative Defense of Transgender Rights’

Comments at Unz.com:

* Mr. Gelernter’s error: A lot of situations are “communicative” and in these situations both parties must have a say. He may be free to smoke but he mustn’t blow his smoke into another man’s face – or the other man has a right to defend himself.

But in a way this is a classical error – the error of promoting the “rights” of the immigrating (Jewish/transgender) individual to be unconditionally accepted/included in every kind of association; at the cost of other people’s freedom of association (which includes the freedom to not associate).

* Conservatives are supposed to understand barbarism is the natural state of human affairs, civilization is rare and fragile. Liberty is therefore sustainable only in limited amounts, to the extent it does not lead to the dissolution of order. Democracy was a radical departure from conservatism,the founders of the US naively thought they could manage it by reserving the vote to adult males of property who would understand, not libertarianism but conservatism. who would understand the importance of order, authority, hierarchy,tradition, the known over the experimental, the weakness of human nature.

* What makes this funny for me is that I left a comment on National Review (before they went into censorship mode by using Facebook comments) and I said National Review will one day declare that Transgenderism is a conservative value. As expected all the cucks denounced me as being a crazed troll, the only thing I was wrong about was how much sooner their endorsement has arrived.

* It may be inferred again that the present movement for women’s rights will certainly prevail from the history of its only opponent: Northern conservatism. This is a party which never conserves anything. Its history has been that it demurs to each aggression of the progressive party, and aims to save its credit by a respectable amount of growling, but always acquiesces at last in the innovation. What was the resisted novelty of yesterday is today one of the accepted principles of conservatism; it is now conservative only in affecting to resist the next innovation, which will tomorrow be forced upon its timidity and will be succeeded by some third revolution; to be denounced and then adopted in its turn.

American conservatism is merely the shadow that follows Radicalism as it moves forward towards perdition. It remains behind it, but never retards it, and always advances near its leader. . . . Its impotency is not hard, indeed, to explain. It is worthless because it is the conservatism of expediency only, and not of sturdy principle. It intends to risk nothing serious for the sake of the truth, and has no idea of being guilty of the folly of martyrdom. It always when about to enter a protest very blandly informs the wild beast whose path it essays to stop, that its “bark is worse than its bite,” and that it only means to save its manners by enacting its decent role of resistance: The only practical purpose which it now serves in American politics is to give enough exercise to Radicalism to keep it “in wind,” and to prevent its becoming pursy and lazy, from having nothing to whip.

No doubt, after a few years, when women’s suffrage shall have become an accomplished fact, conservatism will tacitly admit it into its creed, and thenceforward plume itself upon its wise firmness in opposing with similar weapons the extreme of baby suffrage; and when that too shall have been won, it will be heard declaring that the integrity of the American Constitution requires at least the refusal of suffrage to asses. There it will assume, with great dignity, its final position.

Robert Lewis Dabney on Conservatism, 1897

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The Jewish Edge

Adults with post-secondary degrees (global) according to Pew:
Jews 61%
Christians 20%
Unaff 16%
Buddhists 12%
Hindus 10%
Muslims 8%

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The Jewish Alternative: A Manifesto

Reactionary Jew posts:

A third goal of ours is to change the paradigm of US-Israel foreign relations. This means working towards weakening or reforming international globalist institutions like the UN, which by their very nature tend to act against the national interests of both whites and Jews. Moreover, we’re in favor of an Israel more generally independent: we oppose US military aid to Israel, which is little more than a diplomatic thumbscrew used by the US to dictate Israeli domestic and regional woes, and easily replaceable from within Israel’s budget. We’re skeptical of traditional neoconservative foreign policy in the Middle East, which has done little but prove itself to be dangerous, expensive, and ineffective. At the end of the day, we want Israel to become a normal country like any other: with a free hand to act in the region as it sees fit, unfettered by endless condemnation from a self-righteous international community, and no longer a fulcrum of Western foreign policy dealing with a tense internal perpetual entanglement. We want to see Jews move to the state of Israel in the highest numbers possible, along with the annexation of Gaza and the West Bank.

Where do we disagree? Ari Ben Canaan is a secular Zionist who drinks eggnog with his porkchops on Hanukkah; Reactionary Jew is an Halachically-observant Orthodox Zionist; Joshua Seidel is somewhere in between. Of the three, Josh could be said to be the furthest left of all of us, and closer to the so-called “alt lite” than either of the other two. Whereas RJ sees Jewish identity as fundamentally rooted in an understanding of traditional religion, Ari sees Jewish identity only as a matter of common heritage, ancestry, and history. RJ and Ari believe Jews should, ideally, live in Israel; whereas Josh believes that Jews can have a permanent place in the West. We believe that these diversities of opinion are (((our greatest strength))), and hope to develop both our agreements and disagreements as we continue to publish and podcast.

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