Petula Dvorak writes for the Washington Post:
Take a look at Brock Turner’s happy, privileged face. This is what campus predators look like, America.
Bring it on — the brilliant smile of a Stanford swimmer with Olympic dreams, the happy privileged face of a white college kid named Brock Turner. Another picture of him smiling, please.
Because this is what a campus sexual predator looks like. And that’s the truth too many people refuse to acknowledge. It’s the most difficult part of the campus rape culture destroying the lives of so many young women: acknowledging whom their rapists are.
Turner, 20, was convicted of sexually attacking an unconscious woman behind a dumpster at Stanford University after a fraternity party. It was a violent, brutal attack, and he was caught by two passersby, who tackled him when he tried to run away.
The rape charges were dropped because it was Turner’s fingers, along with dirt and pine needles, that went inside his victim, not his sexual organ. Was that calculated on his part? Was he trying to avoid leaving his DNA in her body?
The jury convicted Turner of sexual assault, which doesn’t sound quite as horrible as rape.
* The swimmer was a bad guy, the Dad is inexplicable, and the sentence too light. (Although difficult to find exact comparison given that there is only claim of digit rape).
But that is not the problem being discussed. At issue is the attempt to generalize the “face of campus rape” based on this one case that is clearly an outlier. He is the only example she cites, as the other cases do not involve conduct at a college campus or students (that I can see).
Thus, while we can admit the severity of this particular case, we should not allow her to get away with this false generalization.
* God help me but, not meaning any disrespect, I read as much of her diatribe as I could, scanned most of it and so help me God it looks as though she was so drunk she pretty much was complicit in what happened. Did anyone read the whole thing? Correct me if I’m wrong. I’m serious. I don’t condone rape. But she seemed to have gone along with most or all of what happened. I just couldn’t get through the whole long, self-absorbed blabber.
* I’m not offended. I really don’t know what happened, but it’s a given that the woman in question was so drunk she has no memory of going to the party with her sister or anything that happened after that until she woke up in the hospital. (She was about 4 years older than the guy.)
There’s no question that some kind of sexual assault took place inasmuch as she blacked out, lost consciousness, and with a BAC three times the limit for intoxication was clearly in no position to give consent. However, in fact, no one claims PIV; it is claimed that he touched her down there and was dry humping her. Outside of that, I don’t know what to say, except that, clearly, if someone drinks that much they bear some responsibility for their actions.
As for her statement, I thought it was incredibly self-indulgent. I expect she will go public in short order to draw even more attention to herself, and her literary skills.
* …the happy privileged face of a white man named Bill Clinton. Another picture of him smiling, please. Because this is what a presidential sexual predator looks like. And that’s the truth too many people refuse to acknowledge.
* They should have run Petula’s photo along with that of the rapist:
I’m not sure that Petula really needs to be worried about being raped.
To me, the circumstances of the “rape” are not all that clear cut – two very drunk college students left a party together. The female has no memory of consenting or not consenting to sex. Apparently he didn’t get very far – his conviction was for fingering her, and “intent” to commit rape. It sounds like if anyone was having fun, it was her, at least up until the point where they were interrupted. She was supposedly unconscious but presumably walked to the area where the “assault” occurred. If two very drunk people fumble around in the dark, who raped whom? It’s my understanding that a lot of college women get drunk specifically in order to lower their sexual inhibitions although they often misjudge and end up black out drunk or unconscious (or sometimes even dead).
Other than the fact that this fellow has Haven Monahan good looks, the circumstances don’t make him the Great White Defendant, at least not to me. If she was a stranger walking down the street and Turner jumped out and dragged her into the bushes (the way actual black/Hispanic rapists often do), THEN he would be the Great White Defendant, but this case was far from that.
* You know how it’s always the most repulsive specimens can’t stop talking about how all men want to rape them?
It’s called bragging.
* I tried to explain to a friend tonight that people bring their preconceptions to these internet stories and they are often false, but the preconception determines their first (and sometimes final) tack on the subject.
I explained that when Harambe the gorilla was shot apparently most people assumed the kid was white, which is why there are youtube videos of black talk DJ’s excoriating the mother and the zoo for killing the gorilla. Also SJW types, and also me. But, when it turned out that the kid was black, all of a sudden the gorilla was “just an animal” and also that “it could have happened to anyone.” (Except for me, I still am unhappy with the the shooting and the mother.)
In this case, people see (a) white kid, (b) sexual assault (which automatically becomes “rape”), and (c) assumes penetration. So everyone assumes that this was an imagined entitled white kid Haven Monahaning some freshman who only wanted directions to the library.
In fact, there is no evidence of penetration, which is why the rape charges were dropped, both of them were drunk, the woman exceedingly so, there is no clear evidence when or for how long she lost consciousness, she claims no memory of the campus party until the following morning when she sobered up in the hospital, but nevertheless wrote a 12,000 word victim impact statement about how her life had been ruined, and even how her attacker’s life was ruined, culminating in a quite inappropriate comparison of herself and the perp with the Twin Towers on 9/11. (Color me suspicious about her memory loss; I know people who have drunk to blackout status, they don’t forget an entire evening.)
On the other hand, the young man insists that they met at the party, where the 23 y.o. plaintiff attended with her “baby sister” and who danced, flirted, made out and engaged in other consensual behavior with him, before leaving with him and falling down behind the dumpster where they engaged in further sexual behavior.
I will be quite honest and say I don’t know what actually happened, I know the young guy tried to run when two Swedes came by on their bicycles at 1 AM. But OTOH there clearly was a sexual assault because her level of intoxication (at least 3x BAC) would have made it impossible for her to consent. Therefore I have no problem with the final resolution in this case.
But the problem is that most people freaking out about this case simply assume that it was penetrative rape in the usual way; they simply don’t know the facts, and they make up their minds on the initial idea, and try as you might they will not budge; counter-intuitively indeed many of the people condemning him now want him to go to prison so he can be raped there; which of course is quite bizarre but there’s a heart of darkness in a lot of SJW types.
* I (almost) can’t believe this is the Washington Post and not The Huffington Post.
This woman is disturbed; a real nutcase hater of white men. Period.
* Here’s the real face of campus rape as reported by the Washington Post:
* While I don’t doubt that the dude is guilty……
I’m also suspicious of anyone who claims to have “totally lost their memory” while drinking. If you just pass out drunk, you still remember things up to the point that you fall asleep/unconscious. There is no way that someone would have absolutely no recollection of the HOURS spent at a party before they passed out.
I think many “blackouts” are probably psychological. It’s telling that some people claim to regularly black out while other people can get drunk to the point of minor alcohol poisoning and still remember everything.
* Part of the issue here is that liberal journalists project their experiences to the rest of the country. Liberal journalists are generally SWPL types who either don’t go to colleges with strong athletic programs and lots of black athletes, or don’t travel in the same social circles as black students. If they are friends with blacks or associate with them, they’re generally nerdy or SWPL type blacks, not ordinary blacks or black athletes. They generally don’t hang out with black athletes or go to the same parties. So when they say that “this is what campus predators look like”, part of what they mean is that they generally aren’t in a position to be affected by black predators on campus, who commit most of the rapes overall, because they generally avoid blacks in the first place.
* The gist of that article is that Brock Turner deserved hatred because he has blond hair and blue eyes – I can’t see any other reason for all that bile and hostility.
Pure racial hatred in other words.
The white race – the Judas race.
* The victims letter makes it sound like the violations she suffered were mainly in the hospital, her vagina being photographed and poked for hours by nurses gathering evidence before letting her shower. If no one told her she had been raped, she might not have had to suffer.
* They know exactly what they’re doing.
They lie to maintain the anti-white narrative.
It’s not just this – the pattern repeats over and over – the filthy media lie to maintain their anti-white narrative and they’ve been doing it for 50+ years.
* He was a freshman. My guess is that they were really drunk. Started grinding on the dance floor anonymously. Started making out. Went somewhere private (he’s a freshman so he doesn’t have a room at the frat house). This was probably all with very little to zero talking.
If I were trying to argue on his defense, I would make a big deal about this next point. He fingers her. Is this something a rapist does to an unconscious girl? I’m guessing she was givong some kind of indication that he took for her enjoying it.
At some point she probably passed out or was at least very close to it. Then the swedes arrive and he runs away. He clearly feels as though he has been caught, so there is an indication of a guilty drunken mind.
im not sure this kid is a predator. Drunken hookup culture is just going to lead to things like this. Perhaps if it was made clear that normal women don’t want to get drunk and have one night stands rather than it being a common sitcom plot. Perhaps men should be encouraged to be chivalrous or of the reputation for being a cad was actually considered a bad thing. What if, gasp, we returned to an era of chaperoned interactions between teenage single mean and women. This disgusting situation is pretty close to what passes for courtship among college kids. Feminism ia part of the cause and is the only socially acceptable “solution” to this.
* Here’s an angle which is worth consideration: Was Turner juicing? To be on the swim team at Stanford is quite an achievement. Also, the attack he engaged in is out of character for the kind of students they have at Stanford. Last, the police report, which seems pretty believable, says that Turner still had an erection after he’d been chased, tackled, and held down by some other students.
Lawrence Auster wrote in 2007:
Like Ahab’s search for the Great White Whale, liberals’ search for the Great White Defendant is relentless and never-ending. When, in 1988, Tawana Brawley’s and Al Sharpton’s then year-old spectacular charge that several white men including prosecutor Steven Pagones (whose name Brawley had picked out of a newspaper article) had abducted and raped the 15 year old was shown to be completely false, the Nation said it didn’t matter, since the charges expressed the essential nature of white men’s treatment of black women in this country. When the Duke University lacrosse players were accused of raping a black stripper last year, liberals everywhere treated the accusation as fact, because, just as with the Nation and Tawana Brawley, the rape charge seemed to the minds of liberals to reflect the true nature of oppressive racial and sexual relations in America.
To see the real truth of the matter, let us take a look at the Department of Justice document Criminal Victimization in the United States, 2005. (Go to the linked document, and under “Victims and Offenders” download the pdf file for 2005.)
In Table 42, entitled “Personal crimes of violence, 2005, percent distribution of single-offender victimizations, based on race of victims, by type of crime and perceived race of offender,” we learn that there were 111,590 white victims and 36,620 black victims of rape or sexual assault in 2005. (The number of rapes is not distinguished from those of sexual assaults; it is maddening that sexual assault, an ill-defined category that covers various types of criminal acts ranging from penetration to inappropriate touching, is conflated with the more specific crime of rape.) In the 111,590 cases in which the victim of rape or sexual assault was white, 44.5 percent of the offenders were white, and 33.6 percent of the offenders were black. In the 36,620 cases in which the victim of rape or sexual assault was black, 100 percent of the offenders were black, and 0.0 percent of the offenders were white. The table explains that 0.0 percent means that there were under 10 incidents nationally.
The table does not gives statistics for Hispanic victims and offenders. But the bottom line on interracial white/black and black/white rape is clear:
In the United States in 2005, 37,460 white females were sexually assaulted or raped by a black man, while between zero and ten black females were sexually assaulted or raped by a white man.
What this means is that every day in the United States, over one hundred white women are raped or sexually assaulted by a black man.
The Department of Justice statistics refer, of course, to verified reports. According to the Wikipedia article on rape, as many as half of all rape charges nationally are determined by police and prosecutors to be false:
Linda Fairstein, former head of the New York County District Attorney’s Sex Crimes Unit, noted, “There are about 4,000 reports of rape each year in Manhattan. Of these, about half simply did not happen…. It’s my job to bring justice to the man who has been falsely accused by a woman who has a grudge against him, just as it’s my job to prosecute the real thing.”
No wonder there was such absolute belief in the guilt of the Duke students among the leading sectors of liberal America. A drug-addled, half-deranged, promiscuous black stripper accused three young white men of raping her. There are virtually zero rapes of black women by white men in the United States, and half of all rape charges against specific individuals turn out to be false. But in the gnostic, inverted world of liberal demonology, the white students had to be guilty.
Meanwhile, in the real America, week after week, the newspapers report the rapes of white women by black men—though, of course, without ever once using the words, “a white woman was raped by black man.” Just last week in the New York Post there was a story about a serial black rapist who invaded women’s apartments on Manhattan’s Upper West Side; you knew the rapist was black from a police drawing accompanying the story, and you knew the victims were most likely white from the neighborhoods where the attacks occurred. But even when news media’s reports of black on white rape make the race of the perpetrator evident (which the media only does in a minority of instances), no explicit reference is ever made to the racial aspect of the case. Each story of black on white rape is reported in isolation, not presented as part of a larger pattern. There is never the slightest mention of the fact that white women in this country are being targeted by black rapists. In the inverted world of liberalism, the phenomenon does not exist.
