* Who’s Trump’s Sonny Liston then? Bill Kristol?
* It is funny to know that Bill Kristol has already made such an ass of himself that someone will just have to play him in any film about Trump’s road to the White House.
* Having Negro style masculinity is bad if you want to stay out of trouble with the police and want to live a drama free life. But I recommend for East Asian men and White men to adopt Negro style masculinity only for trying to pick up women.
Adopt the positive aspects of Negro masculinity, but none of the negative aspects of it. If you do that, you basically get Italian masculinity.
Italian men aggressively pursue women just like Black men do, but commit crime at the level of WASP men. It’s a perfect balance, it’s the best of both worlds.
* Incidentally, his daughter married a white man. I wonder if it was her way of rebelling.
* Many of Ali’s opponents came to sticky ends, besides Liston. Sonny Banks knocked him down in their 1962 bout, and was killed in a 1965 bout with Leotis Martin. Zora Folley was found in a motel pool with massive head injuries. Oscar Bonavena was very unhappy with the refereeing of their 1970 match, his only inside the distance loss, and was shot dead in Nevada in 1975.
Ken Norton won all 3 fights against Ali, though he only got the decision in one. Victim of an unexplained single vehicle car accident, and in a coma for 5 years. Trevor Berbick was killed with an axe in 2006. Alejandro Lavorante was another opponent who died from injuries received in a later bout.
The hero in Creed basically has three main obstacles he must overcome:
a) He must stop beating up black guys outside the ring and start beating up white guys inside the ring.
b) He must become part of an authentically black community, in an authentically black city (Philly), by winning the love of an authentically Philly woman.
c) He must make peace with his father, Apollo Creed, and his legacy.
Hey– an alienated son of privilege must make peace with his father’s ghost and become a leader of his race by joining the community of a large black-dominated American city and winning the love of one of that city’s native daughters: I think I’ve read that book before.
Michael Jordan, the actor playing the title role, played Wallace in “The Wire,” the prototypical callow black youth caught in forces beyond his control. And in contrast to Carl Weathers, who really looked like he could have been a champion in the original Rocky, Jordan comes across as pretty callow here. But it works. In almost every scene, Adonis Creed seems less grounded than any of the other, usually older actors around him, but in a way this suits his role as an all-purpose vehicle for hopes (his own and others’) rather than a person with an intense inner life…
Creed, though wrapped in the flashy boxing robe of the big-ticket Rocky franchise, feels like an elegiac repurposing of the myth of Obama himself for the era of Black Lives Matters and the closing year of his presidency.
* OT: a nice quote by Tila Tequila, former porn star and now twitter nazi, on ‘Fash the Nation 42′ (https://radio.therightstuff.biz/2016/06/04/fash-the-nation-week-42/), ~89:30. She came back to Houston after it’d been diversified. She says the intent of section 8 is to put blacks on their best behavior, get them out of their bad environments, but that “that’s not how it works, they dominate the neighborhood and chase out the nice people” (paraphrase). Promises good times for Obama’s Affirmatively Furthering Fair Housing.
* Real boxing doesn’t look much like a Rocky movie, where everything is telegraphed so viewers can follow what’s going on.
Boxing is kind of like hockey where the action tended to be too quick to really follow on pre-HD television. I watched a lot of Olympic boxing on TV in 1976, but I had a hard time following who was winning from what I was seeing.
Did they have instant replay set up for the closed circuit telecast?
Former champ James J. “Cinderella Man” Braddock was in the front row and told a reporter: “I have a feeling that this guy (Ali) is a lot better than any of us gave him credit for,” Braddock said. “It isn’t the knockout punch that sticks in my mind as much as a punch he let go (earlier)….It was a right to Liston’s jaw and it shook him to his shoetops. For all we know, it could have been the one that set up the knockout.”
* In Madmen the old secretary, Miss Blankenship, expresses no interest in Clay-Liston and says “If I wanted to watch 2 negroes fight I’d throw a dollar out the window.” Which is a great line and an example of Weiner having it both ways, as the audience can laugh and say it’s laughing at how awful people used to be.
* Some economists studied the Houston Section 8 lottery; the applicants who won the lottery and received the housing voucher committed more crimes, mostly assaults. Men who won the lottery were twice as likely to get arrested than men who applied for Section 8 but lost. Basically, since spending the voucher is fungible with other spending, you can get drunk (or high, perhaps) more often if you win than if you don’t, and consequently get in more fights. The voucher had no effect on women’s propensity to commit crimes.
This is consistent with other findings that transfers fungible with cash tend to increase crime in the short term (aside from any increases in the long term due to “welfare dependency,” change in culture, etc.)
* For fraction of the money Soros has wasted on BLM, he could have funded surveillance cameras for Chicago’s most violent neighborhoods.
I would like to know what percentage of Chicago homicides take place outside and could be captured on video.
The gang murder trial I was a juror on that ended in an acquittal due to gross lack of evidence happened out in the middle of the street in front of a crowd on a hot summer’s night.
If you watch The First 48, a large number of the shootings involving blacks that are resolved had video evidence. I imagine the show’s producers choose not to waste time attempting to track cases involving AAs that do not have either video, audio or social media evidence simply because the “no snitch” mentality makes the cases poor odds for resolution.
Of course the last thing TWMNBN would want is more video that would end up on WSHH, SBPDL or Colin Flaherty’s Youtube channel.
But improving the CPD murder case conviction rate by just 10% could dramatically lower the carnage.
* What happens to all the hatred bottled up inside someone like Ali when he dies? Is it released back into the environment?
Is there some kind law of conservation of hatred like that in physics for the conservation of energy or angular momentum?
Ali even hated his fellow negroes taunting poor Joe Frazier for being too simian-like:
from the Washington Post:
We remember Ali calling Frazier “ugly,” an “Uncle Tom” and, especially, a “gorilla.” And even those of us too young to have stayed up to learn the result of a 15-round prizefight in the 1970s recall how black people laughed and laughed at this.
“I’m cringing in my car right now just thinking about it,” says Janks Morton Jr. He visited Frazier in Philadelphia in the early 1970s with his dad, Janks Morton Sr., who trained Sugar Ray Leonard and was close friends with Frazier’s sparring partner, heavyweight champ-to-be Ken Norton. “I can still see [Ali] sitting next to Howard Cosell punching that [rubber] black gorilla, saying, ‘It’s going to be a thrilla in Manila when I kill that gorilla.’”
* When confronted by the press about his low IQ score, Ali said “I always said I was the greatest, not the smartest.” When he was training for his second match against Sonny Liston in Boston (a match that had to be postponed and rescheduled for Lewiston, Maine because Ali got hit with an appendicitis attack), I went with a college buddy to the small gym where he was working out. He was the most beautiful man I have ever seen. To see him spar in the ring with his sparring partner was truly impressive. He was so quick and graceful. Truly “floated like a butterfly and stung like a bee.” It was a small gym and we were about the only people watching, which meant we were about 25 feet away from the sparring ring. I was also stunned to see how big he was after reading all the stories in the press about how Sonny Liston towered over him with his scowl. Ali was two inches taller, had several inches in reach over Liston and outweighed Liston by a good 15 pounds when I saw him. No wonder my college friend from Louisville cleaned up on the first fight betting a good deal of money at 7 to 1 odds. Later, when Ali met Frazier in their first fight, I happened to be skiing in Innsbruck, Austria with my girlfriend. Because of budgetary constraints, we were staying in a pension with no TV. The night of the fight we checked into a hotel with a TV in the lobby and got a wakeup call around 3 am (because of the time difference) and joined a fairly large crowd in the lobby to watch the fight. I was cheering for Ali all the way but realized that the judges’ decision at the conclusion of the fight was the right one. It was the most memorable and exciting sporting event I have ever watched, in person or on TV. During his career, I always rooted for Ali, but after he retired I concluded that Joe Frazier was the much better man. He put up with all that crap from Ali with a great deal of dignity, and, based on what I read, he conducted himself the same way in all aspects of his life.
BTW I rather enjoyed John McEnroe’s antics when he played and saw the humor in what he did. Apparently, he did too based on the commercials he made after he retired. I was also a big McEnroe fan because of his artistry as a tennis player.
* According to the NYT obit he failed the Army’s mental ability test which I’m assuming is NYT speak for IQ test. It was only after the minimum score was lowered that he became eligible to be drafted.
* Muhammad Ali strikes me as evidence that Jensen’s “Level 1″ intelligence is better understood as heuristic-based or subconscious processing than as literal recall. Ali could be insightful, even creative, within a narrow band of topics and situations, but presumably had no ability to abstract outside that, the Level 2 intelligence that IQ tests evaluate. I also think there might be some tradeoffs between fast visual processing of 3D objects and fast 2D processing, that might have made him especially predisposed to illiteracy. The IQ test was correct as far as it went, but everything’s not IQ.
My wife saw him in Times Square once- the stretch limo pulls up, the window goes down, an enormous head with a big smile leans out, the crowd of people waiting to cross 42nd street goes suddenly wild.
Roger Ebert’s essay about watching Rocky 2 with Ali is quite good, and doesn’t have the hagiographic quality that things written more recently have.
* His celebrity status helped popularize the so-called ‘Black Muslims’, a hate white people group who preached that whites were literally the devil. It’s believed this group spawned murder cults such as the Zebra murderers and others across the country. The NOI (Nation of Islam), currently headed by Farrakhan has been on public access television at various slots for years in the Chicago area. This would never have been tolerated were it to be a white nationalist type group but blacks always get a pass no matter. The nasty taunting of Frazier for being darker is a window to the inherent race obsessions of blacks, such as light vs dark feelings and other forms of hating everybody. Generally, the vast majority of blacks are united in their hatred of whitey and masochistic, simpering whites just suck it up and ask for more.
* Ali was punchy long before Parkinson’s set in. Back in the 80s and 90s Howard Stern would have Frazier into the studio for interviews and would joke between them how dopey Ali was, how dazed in later days Ali was and snicker about how Frazier beat Ali stupid. Ali was brain dead and underwater for decades.
Ali kicked off everything that is idiotic about Black athletes today and rare indeed is the Black sports star who, in the end zone, acts as if he’s been there before, as they say. Ali was also the beginning of the era of Black-Man-Does-No-Wrong-That-We-Print-Or-Portray media. Ali was the beginning of the tolerance of Black-onWhite racism and the beginning of the shuttling aside of a man’s moral and intellectual shortfalls because of his Black skin, especially if he was a celebrity. Little known factlet, 4 wives, by various accounts from seven to a dozen children that we know of, and dozens or hundreds of groupies, a particularly egregious record, even for Blacks in the 60s and 70s. From Ali onward, are you Black? Promiscuous? Unsupported children? No problem, just a Black thing. You wouldn’t understand. It all started down the hill with Ali.
* ‘Ali was, in the words of famed sportswriter Frank Deford, “the original trash talker.” He liberated athletes in most sports (other than golf) from the code of the British gentleman.’
No. He liberated blacks from the oppressive chains of good sportsmanship. White athletes, for the most part, still display good sportsmanship no matter the sport.
* If Ali had a low IQ then this seems to clearly demonstrate in an HBD sense blacks folk’s have something else that compensates to some extent. A white person with the same IQ could not riff like that. Rappers can be pretty clever with the phrases too. Mike Tyson seems to be kind of an idiot yet insightful at the same time. Low IQ whites are just dull. What is going on?
* Right, blacks seem to be more talkative than most people, and they have a tendency to string together words and phrases they pick up from the environment into utterances that don’t make much sense semantically or logically. The words and phrases seem to be put together for the purposes of sound and rhythm.
A lot of sports broadcasting and commentary is now virtually unwatchable because they tend to have black commentators on every panel and broadcasting crew. It’s embarrassing and cringe inducing to watch. Cable news is increasingly like this as well, although not as bad yet. They now tend to always include one or more black commentators.
* If you spend any time around black people, you will hear a lot of very amusing and entertaining trash talk. When I was younger and more naive, I knew a very witty black woman obviously much brighter than her black peers. I was amazed when she showed me the DFS paperwork relating to her having lost custody of her children. Her IQ was listed as 99. I couldn’t believe it was so low. In retrospect, it seems spot on to me.
* After Ali won the title again in 1974, it became “In” to hero-worship him. I recall in 1976, Ali was on CBS Face the Nation, of all things. A reporter asked him who he favored in the Presidential race. Ali said he liked Gerald Ford, who had invited him to the White House, which Ali liked very much.
I was a bit surprised, but that’s what he said. I believe Ali endorsed Reagan in 1984.
* The 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica had a different explanation. Interestingly, this section has been expunged from some of the on-line versions.
Mentally the negro is inferior to the white. The remark of F. Manetta, made after a long study of the negro in America, may be taken as generally true of the whole race: “the negro children were sharp, intelligent and full of vivacity, but on approaching the adult period a gradual change set in. The intellect seemed to become clouded, animation giving place to a sort of lethargy, briskness yielding to indolence. We must necessarily suppose that the development of the negro and white proceeds on different lines. While with the latter the volume of the brain grows with the expansion of the brainpan, in the former the growth of the brain is on the contrary arrested by the premature closing of the cranial sutures and lateral pressure of the frontal bone.
* The late David Halberstam thought Ali had the most astute analysis of the Vietnam War of anyone. Halberstam also declared Ali sacrificed more due to the war than anyone.
An example of the fawning over blacks, and Ali in particular, common to people (literary and otherwise) of Halberstam’s milieu.
