SOUTH central Melbourne became more like South Central Los Angeles on Saturday as rioters swept through the CBD terrifying locals and tourists alike.
Havoc descended on Federation Square with metal chairs from the city’s famous Brunetti’s cafe used as weapons on nearby Swanston St, as gang members fought with both the police and among themselves.
But these weren’t members of Melbourne’s notorious crime families, as depicted in Underbelly, or even bikie gangs asserting their dominance. But rather young people, some no more than 12 years of age, from hitherto little known gangs living out their dreams of a “Fast and the Furious” lifestyle.
Police say the primary gang had been under surveillance for months, accused of breaking into homes, stealing cars and even the tragic death of a mum-of two late last year.
While a Salvation Army officer with knowledge of the gangs told news.com.au the culprits “don’t care” about the concerns their actions cause, and that a fear of being a labelled racist meant little effort was being done to tackle the gangs whose members predominantly hail from eastern Africa but also the Middle East and the South Pacific.
* It was a conflict between the Apex and the Islander 23, a gang made up of Sudaese and Pacific Islanders, respectively. I think the Herald Sun was the only newspaper who mentioned the nationalities.
* I saw Amanda Vanstone – Australia’s former Immigration Minister – boast on TV that she was the one behind the Sudanese resettlement. Surprised that she is a childless white lady?
* There are very few Africans in Melbourne (or the rest of Australia), but they certainly punch above their weight (if you’ll pardon the expression) when it comes to violent crime.
The last census in Australia (2011) didn’t have any separate numbers for Africans (by birthplace or ancestry) because the numbers were too small – only a fraction of one per cent. The numbers have certainly increased in the last five years but I would guess they are still well under one per cent.
The riot in Melbourne was a pitched battle between gangs of Sudanese and Pacific Islanders (mainly Maoris and Samoans), and we have larger numbers of the latter group, but only 15,000 Maoris were identified in the census (out of 4m Melburnians).
As it happens, the people worst affected by the riot (and by street crime by Africans and Islanders in general) are typically East Asians and South Asians (students studying here, or recent immigrants). They are considered (correctly, as a rule) by criminals to be soft targets.
A few years back there was a series of nasty robberies and a few killings targeting South Asians in Melbourne, and Indian media reported them as being committed by racist “Australians”. It turned out that the majority of those crimes were committed by Islanders and Africans (race realists, for sure, but not Australian to any but the terminally PC). The race of criminals was (and is) usually omitted in any reports by MSM or police; social media help fill the gap (much as in Europe).
* The “Out of Africa” movement seems to be in full swing. Why any nation feels the need to bend to these demands to open its gates is beyond me. I think it’s becoming quite scientifically known that we – i.e., humans – are not all the ‘same’ under the skin – close maybe, but not the same. Sex seems to be the determining factor to the ‘we’re all the same crowd’ – if you can fu*k it, it’s same as you.
* From what I could gather this was a clash between Africans (Sudanese) and Pacific Islanders. In Darwin it’s Aborigines and Africans fighting. Such populations overwhelmingly lack human capital and with traditionally male blue collar jobs disappearing their prospects don’t look very good. Most of the Africans are humanitarian refugees and the Islanders come with the oceanian geography, often via New Zealand. Australia is in the process of deporting foreign born criminals after a recently passed law so perhaps a few people will be made examples of.
A lot of the Sudanese, as you would expect of humanitarian refugees, come from conflict zones and I’m sure many of them are genuinely traumatised, but dumping them in a completely alien culture and expecting them to thrive is a little optimistic. Interestingly the left wing Victorian Premier (equivalent to a state governor in America) has said he’s not buying into the ‘poor me’ excuses that community leaders, social workers etc. always seem to come up with.
* i live in rural new south wales. the number of africans that have popped up in australia in less than the last 10 years really begs belief.before around 2006 and 2007 (right before the labour party got into power again) you literally saw no africans at all. a tiny number of high skill tranplants from places like ghana maybe but that’s it. after that there has been a really rapid incraese in sudanese, somali and tazaninan migrants, presumably all refugees. they stick out like a sore thumb here for sure.
* What’s funny is that you would think these nations would do some fact checking in South Africa, the southern US or Rhodesia how that co-existence with blacks worked out in the past. But it’s as if they don’t want to know. Maybe they know the score deep down, but think they can actually be successful, and don’t want to rain on the parade.
* I’m from that part of the world too, and have had to work with people from the sudanese community in Melbourne. What struck me was their often brazen contempt for the law- for example, if a white person were to try and commit a crime, they usually have the decency to at least try and be inconspicuous about it. Not so with the sudanese, they’ll do it completely out in the open and punch whichever cop comes to arrest them. As long as the crime isn’t too serious (like stealing alcohol) they know they are going to either get away with it or get a slap on the wrist from a magistrate, as opposed to getting their arm lopped off with a machete.
People here aren’t stupid though, when you hear people badmouth suburbs like Sunshine for being violent, it’s a roundabout way of referring to the sudanese.
Another thing that should be mentioned are the rivalries between “youths” from the Aboriginal and Sudanese communities, who seem to be jockeying with each other to be head of the Australian underclass.
* Is there one country in the world – including their own – where the Somalis have proved useful?
* There’s a more important interest for maintaining strict silence about the ethnic identities of the offenders. If the conventions of political correctness are not observed, things go to hell very easily in a multicultural society.
One of the best illustrations of this was in Sydney in 2004. Gangs of Lebanese Muslims were known to attack lifeguards. After one attack in 2004, at least one popular radio DJ broadcast frank views about attacks by Lebanese Muslims gangs. In reaction, crowds of white Australians gathered in the beach in a demonstration of support for the life guards and for standing their ground. By the time the crowd swelled to thousands, it turned out of control. Police no longer were able to keep order and white mobs even attacked random brown skinned people. That was the Cronulla riot, unleashed by lack of political correctness among those people who have the power to broadcast opinions.
Here in this melee although no white women were harmed, the principle stands that if strict political correctness is not maintained it may incite the white majority to do violence against minorities.
* The articles call them “Sudanese gangs”. However the “Sudanese” that Australia has been taking are actually the poor oppressed “Darfurians” of what used to be the southern part of Sudan.
Darfur, remember, is the poor oppressed southern province of Sudan that the West recently spun off to form its own country. The peaceful oppressed Darfurians are now slaughtering each other wholesale in a big civil war.
These foreign “refugees” always look so meek and pathetic in photos of refugee camps and crowded boats. When they are unleashed on a defenceless Western country they revert to type.
* Defenders of the ‘white Australia policy’ – which, surprisingly lasted right up to year 1973, casually and colloquillaly used to say that ‘Australia has enough blacks of its own, we don’t need any more blacks’ when questioned on the subject.
Which begs the question of the indigenous Aborigene population being a pretty criminally inclined, dysfunctional and sociopathic one, eventually and inevitably clashing with blacks imported direct from Africa.
A dilemma which only the most rabid race-obsessed 19th century anthropology author could ever have contemplated.
Who will prevail? – the so-called ‘rascals’ of Port Moresby – yes, yes, yes, I know its in PNG and not Oz, seem to me to be more of a match to anything Lagos, south side Chicago or Detroit can throw at them.
Even their HIV positive rates are superlative.
* Whoa. We can’t have this in Australia. You guys are my escape plan – or, at least, my escape plan for my children.
The way that I look at it, we’re living through a version of the movie “On the Beach,” except that it’s not a wave of nuclear radiation that destroys the West, but a wave of African and Muslim immigration.
Melbourne was their last refuge from the deadly radiation. Well, Australia is my kids’ Melbourne. (So, yes, Melbourne, in a sense, is both figuratively and literally, my kids’ Melbourne. Kind of like America’s “Vietnam,” i.e. a military quagmire, is the actual Vietnam.)
Of course, in the movie, the inhabitants had no way to stop the nuclear cloud from reaching Australia. But you do. You can both save the future white world and make your current world much more pleasant by keeping out Africans and Muslims.
* The coming Demographic disaster caused by the current population boom in Sub Saharan Africa is going to be the defining event shaping World History in the second half of the 21st century.
Africa has problems feeding and keeping peace of its citizens now. So, how bad will it be when the population quadruples?
What will happen is civil wars, warlords, Islamification, and mass migrations. The Africans will probably migrate to the nearest places, north Africa, the middle East, and South America. The entire middle east will migrate into Europe. The entire South America will migrate into North America.
A population boom in Korea in 100AD destroyed the Roman Empire. The resulting subsequent constant population migrations collapsed the border and collapsed Roman society from within when the wrong immigrants were let inside the border. The resulting chaos was called the Dark Ages, and most of Europe was burned to the ground. This has happened before and could happen again.
Time is past due to cast aside the neocon rivalry with Russia. We’ll need their help to deal with the future. We’ll also need an armed Western Europe with capable politicians. (We’ll probably also need to cooperate with the Arab/Persian world). Otherwise, everything could fall.
* Ever notice how it is only white western nations that take in African “refugees”? Ever catch that? Note how Japan didn’t let them in. Or South Korea. Or Taiwan. Or a hundred other places that would have been a least a bit safer and more stable then Sudan, Somalia etc. Only the white western nations of the world, even though Australia for instance is thousands of miles away from Africa.
* Australia is a continent, but its mostly desert so you hit a hard limit on how many people can live there without completely trashing the ecology earlier than elsewhere.
This means that there is a stronger argument for closing the country’s borders with Australia than with just about any other place in the world. The place has to be reserved for the descendants of the English speaking immigrants who went or were shipped there in the twentieth century, plus whatever is left of the Aboriginal population. A larger population would wreck it, and given that its surrounded by water and in an isolated corner of the globe, keeping additional people out is less difficult than elsewhere.
However, for the same reason, Australia can’t be an “escape plan” for anyone in the rest of the world, including white people. Sorry. In an overpopulated world, there really is no place to escape to.
* You’re saying that Freedom of Speech can’t exist in a multiracial society.
Let’s get this straight. Multi-racial societies lead to:
1. Loneliness and much less social interaction (see Bowling Alone)
2. Violence
3. Repressive governments and a lack of civil liberties
I can see why they’re so popular.
Future historians are going to look back on this age in wonder. I doubt that they’ll ever really understand why the West committed suicide. I mean, if I wasn’t living through it, I wouldn’t believe it.
* Is it relatively more acceptable in Aussie public life to be a fat woman? When I first saw British newscasts or morning shows growing up I was struck by the fact of normal plain-looking, often overweight women getting hired to work in front of the camera, even as show hostesses, and not just on the public channels either, but in recent years they seem to be going in the Fox News/Access Hollywood direction (to be fair, not so different from the standards of every local news team in every state) which is an outgrowth of the obnoxious L.A. media demimonde.
* Most liberals don’t want to know, because it’s crimethink. A leftist operates under a number of quasi-religious axioms, something like those I’ve identified below:
-All peoples are equal.
-Diversity is the highest good.
-If there is a group difference, it is due to white racism, or the white male power structure.
-White people are obligated to pay money in the form of tax until everyone is equal.
-If you can find one intelligent, altruistic or non-criminally-inclined member of a race or ethnicity, it is proof that group differences in races/ethnicities are due to something other than genetics.
-Anyone who questions or researches the above is a thoroughly bad person.
-White racists should be punished.
Because this axiom structure is laid down through many, many Hollywood movies, kids’ TV programming and books, the education system (textbooks, curricula and the views of teachers), proclamations by government officials etc. there is no real unified set of laws to it all except that white men are bad and anything that will lead to the production of more of them, especially a unified group of them, is bad.
A lot of non-US countries including Australia like to consider that the problems that they perceive the US has stems from something intrinsic to the US itself, a kind of tragic dirt. These other countries consider that they have solved problems that have eluded the USA, and they kid themselves about the reasons behind it. Fundamentally the problem is ethnic mix, but this is put down to various other things.
Warren Buffett’s famous maxim might be riffed on here: “When a management with a reputation for brilliance tackles a business with a reputation for bad economics, it is the reputation of the business that remains intact.”
So I would say this:
“When a government with a reputation for competence imports an ethnic group with a reputation for high crime and low economic performance, it is the reputation of the ethnic group that remains intact.”
* That’s the case here in Europe, for sure. The liberal government and media elites generally look on Americans with disdain, especially Southern whites. It almost seems as if their support for immigration stems from their eagerness to show how much better they can handle the problems that will arise when different races are put together.
