Every group, every people in the world thinks it is the best. I don’t see what’s wrong with that. Yet only “white supremacists” get slurred for this quintessentially human emotion. Why don’t black supremacists and Jewish supremacists and Japanese supremacists get regularly attacked by the media?
I don’t expect people to care about those outside of their group. When they do, and it seems like WASPs have done this more than anybody, that’s lovely.
Whenever you read the term “white supremacist,” you know the writer has an agenda and is on an emotional bender, often acting out a tribal addiction. Every group thinks it’s awesome, but only white advocates get tagged with the slur “white supremacist.”
According to Jewish Journal Editor Rob Eshman: “When you say divisive, nasty things, you empower divisive, nasty people.”
Well, what is nasty depends upon the perspective of the viewer. For some people, the Torah is very nasty. Homosexuals, for instance, have reason to think of the Torah as nasty. Other people similarly condemned by Torah have reason to think the Torah is nasty. From the perspective of Judaism, Christianity is idolatry. From the perspective of Christianity, Judaism is a false religion. From the perspective of a secular humanist, both religions are false. Aren’t those judgments nasty?
Here is an excerpt from the Talmud. Please tell me if this is hate speech.
Onkelos son of Kolonikos … went and raised Titus from the dead by magical arts, and asked him; ‘Who is most in repute in the [other] world? He replied: Israel. What then, he said, about joining them? He said: Their observances are burdensome and you will not be able to carry them out. Go and attack them in that world and you will be at the top as it is written, Her adversaries are become the head etc.; whoever harasses Israel becomes head. He asked him: What is your punishment [in the other world]? He replied: What I decreed for myself. Every day my ashes are collected and sentence is passed on me and I am burnt and my ashes are scattered over the seven seas. He then went and raised Balaam by incantations. He asked him: Who is in repute in the other world? He replied: Israel. What then, he said, about joining them? He replied: Thou shalt not seek their peace nor their prosperity all thy days for ever. He then asked: What is your punishment? He replied: With boiling hot semen. He then went and raised by incantations Jesus [in Vilna edition: “the sinners of Israel”; “Jesus” appears in Munich 95 and Vatican 140 manuscripts and “he went and brought up Jesus the Nazarene” (Editions or MSs: Vatican 130)]. He asked them: Who is in repute in the other world? They replied: Israel. What about joining them? They replied: Seek their welfare, seek not their harm. Whoever touches them touches the apple of his eye. He said: What is your punishment? They replied: With boiling hot excrement, since a Master has said: Whoever mocks at the words of the Sages is punished with boiling hot excrement. Observe the difference between the sinners of Israel and the prophets of the other nations who worship idols. It has been taught: Note from this incident how serious a thing it is to put a man to shame, for God espoused the cause of Bar Kamza and destroyed His House and burnt His Temple.
— Babylonian Talmud, Gittin 56b-57a
So when the Talmud pictures Jesus — the god of the goyim — suffering for eternity in boiling hot excrement, is that hate speech? Asking for a friend.
I’m not arguing that Jews and Judaism are bad or nasty or bigoted. I’m just arguing that it is normal, natural and healthy for all strongly identifying in-groups such as Jews and Muslims and whites and blacks and latinos and asians to have suspicion and negative feelings towards out-groups.
Rabbi Jack Abramowitz writes for the Orthodox Union:
There are six things that the Torah commands us to remember. Optimally, these verses should be recited out loud each day and their meanings should be considered…
3. Amalek’s Evil Attack Remember what Amalek did to you on the journey when you left Egypt. They met you on the way and ambushed those who were lagging behind. You were tired and exhausted, but they did not fear God. Therefore, when Hashem your God relieves you from your enemies in the land that He will give you to possess, you must erase the memory of Amalek from beneath heaven. Do not forget. (Devarim 25:17-19) Amalek is different from other nations that attacked Israel in that we are commanded to eradicate them. Why should they be punished more harshly than Egypt, which oppressed the Jews for hundreds of years? One reason is because Amalek “did not fear God.” They dared to make war not just with the Jews, but with God Himself!
Is that hate speech?
I am having a freiliche Purim and a great chuckle over those 75,000 Hamanites who met their doom at the hands of the Jews. Puts me in the mood for Passover, and the termination of all the first born sons of Egypt.
Chaim Amalek: You are sick, sick. I wish you had stayed in porn and left the Yidden to daven and shuckle on their own.
Luke Ford: Should not the Museum of Tolerance have an exhibit or two on the people of Amalek?
Chaim Amalek: More sick, wicked thoughts. There is a world of difference between killing an Amalekite toddler as God in our Holy Torah commands us to do, and killing a rabbi because a wicked man decides to do this. One is a commandment from God – what we Yidden call a mitzvah — and the other is craziness from a goy.
Chaim Amalek: I say no apologies. The Museum of Tolerance should actively embrace all of Torah, including the very clear biblical commandment that the Amalek People be annihilated, branch and root.
Luke Ford: Should Jews become as tolerant of Amalekite babies as the goyim are of Jewish babies? Live and let live perhaps? Asking for a friend.
Alex Trivunovic: It would be hilarious if all this time, Luke was just a catspaw for Jews who want to ask questions they’re afraid to ask their Rabbi.
Luke Ford: While Jews have been celebrating Purim like mad, my poor friend Chaim Amalek has had to spend the day in hiding. #StopTheHate
David: There’s no rational explanation for anti-Amalekitism.
Jewish Journal Editor Rob Eshman finds it “frightening” that Trump gets Tea Party support. Frightening for whom? Not every group of people in America have equal reason to fear Donald Trump. So should Jews be most fearful? Or how about blacks or Muslims or latinos?
Do goyim ever have reason to fear Jews? For instance, many of the biggest mass murderers of the 20th Century were Jewish (worked for Joseph Stalin). The relatives of the millions who were killed in genocides executed by Jews in the Soviet Union have a reason for some skepticism towards the beneficence of Jews.
Here is a good comment posted after Eshman’s essay: “Blacks had assembled together to support Obama, and it was not considered racist. Jews have assembled together to support Sanders, and it is not considered bigoted. Women have assembled together to support Hillary, and it is not considered sexist.
So why is it that Whites are considered all of those things for supporting a White candidate?”
Responding Comment: “Two wrongs don’t make a right James. Try again? You support a man who feels that anyone who isn’t a European Christian is somehow 3/5th’s a person if that. Whose supporters like Ann Coulter feel that anyone who isn’t a WASP like her should be deported if they don’t do what they want as she said with Nikky Haley. Never mind that she was born in South Carolina. Her parents are Indian Immigrants. You could disagree with her politics but what gives you the right to claim she should be deported unless you are trying to rewrite American history. That the USA is only for European Christians. That is wrong James. That isn’t the USA.”
Rejoinder:
I reread my post several times and failed to see where I said anyone, especially a US Citizen, should be deported. Of Course, Abe Lincoln did support such deportation.
“I have urged the colonization of the “blacks” back to Africa, and I shall continue. My Emancipation Proclamation was linked with this plan. There is no room for two distinct races of White men in America, much less for two distinct races of Whites and Blacks. I can think of no greater calamity than the assimilation of the “black” into our social and political life as our equal. Within twenty years we can peacefully colonize the “black” under conditions in which he can rise to the full measure of manhood. This he can never do here. We can never attain the ideal union our fathers dreamed, with millions of an alien, inferior race among us, whose assimilation is neither possible nor desirable.”– Abraham Lincoln’s speech during the signing of Emancipation Proclamation of Sept. 1862
(note: due to censorship, it was necessary to change the original word used to “black”).But now let’s take a gander at our ole’ US Constitution…
*Article 1 Section 2 considered slaves as just 3/5th a person for representation. (Must be where you got that 3/5th thingy, huh?)
*Article 1 Section 9 REQUIRED for the slave trade to continue and the institution of slavery be reinstated in all States until at least 1808; (some 20 years after ratification).
*Article 4 Section 2 REQUIRED for all escaped slaves to be returned to their master.
*Amendment 13 still ALLOWS for slavery providing that it is as punishment issued by the Court.Well Doggies. Sounds like that is the good ole’ USA after all. But to be fair, we had a civil war over some of these issues, so let’s take a look there…
We’ll begin with a peek at that mean old Confederacy…
*The 1st Black Regiment to ever exist in America was the Confederate 1st Louisiana Native Guard, consisting of 1,135 black infantrymen and 14 Companies.
*The 1st memorial to ever give recognition to any black soldier in the US is the Confederate Memorial in Arlington Cemetery. If you look at the images engraved, you will see a Confederate soldier placing his child in the arms of a black woman as he marches off to battle and black soldiers marching in rank with White confederate soldiers.
*Black Confederates received the same pay as their White counterparts, were provided uniforms when provided to White soldiers and carried banners. In Contrast, Union black soldiers were paid nearly just half of their White counterparts, had to purchase their own uniforms and were not allowed to carry the Union banner; only a bare pole.
*No slave was ever brought to the US on a Confederate ship or under the Confederate banner. (The CSA Consttution forbade it).Gee wilikers. Here I am making them sound rather considerate. Better bring up them there Union folks now before Manassas Creek starts runnin’ red again…
*What does Washington DC, Maryland, West Virginia, Kentucky, Missouri, Kansas, Nebraska, New Jersey and Delaware all have in common? They were all Union States, territories and capitol that continued to have slavery during and after the Civil War.
*Slavery ended in the Confederacy in May 1865. Slavery was not abolished in the Union until Dec. 1865; some 7 months after it ended in the South.
*The Union offered to pass a Constitutional Amendment to forever protect the right to own slaves if the Confederacy would peacefully return to the Union.
In his first Inaugural Speech, on March 4, 1861, President Abraham Lincoln approved of a Constitutional Amendment passed through the Union Congress that would guarantee permanent slavery in the United States. Lincoln stated in his Speech, “I understand a proposed amendment to the Constitution has passed Congress, to the effect that the Federal Government shall never interfere with the domestic institutions of the States, including that of persons held to service. Holding such a provision to now be implied constitutional law, I have no objection to its being made express and irrevocable.”
The Corwin Amendment read, :”No amendment shall be made to the Constitution which will authorize or give to Congress the power to abolish or interfere, within any State, with the domestic institutions thereof, including that of persons held to labor or service by the laws of said State.”BTW: Those “Jim Crowe” laws that extended through the 1960’s? That was done by the US government, not the Confederacy (which ended back in 1865)
Your intentional ignorance pertaining to the unique variances of our respective races due to the phenotypes which define the genetically differentiated human populations indicates to me that you have no interest in developing an anthropological appreciation of the accomplishments and sacrifices made by these specific populations but rather embraces a desire to undermine such advances by subscribing yourself to the popular ideologies of political correctness.
Comment: “ISIS and Black Lives Matter pose a far greater threat to society than the KKK. They aren’t in the news for beheadings or riots. This article is just fanning the flames of racism. Stop it.”
Comment: “Talk about guilt by association!! Trump is admittedly – even thankfully – not always politically correct in his statements. Especially some of his off-the-cuff statements are outright stupid, but to imply that he is a white supremacist like in the headline is totally absurd. The author fails to cite a single “white supremacist” position taken by Trump. All the author has to offer is the standard list of right-wing nutcases. Of course, if someone on the conservative side were to use such cheap tactic to criticize Clinton or Sanders because they have the support of radical Islamist tolerant leftist groups, the author would blow a gasket.”
Comment:
Scrolling through these comments, it’s nice to see the good, honest, incredibly intelligent white people of America waking up to what is really going on, here.
Yeah, that’s right, I said “good, honest white people”, because somehow that message seems to have gotten lost in the SUCCESSFUL attempts of whites to help others empower themselves.
And this is the thanks we get from the Jewish press, huh? Classy, guys. Really, really classy. You know that Americans welcomed European Jews in when they were in trouble, right? Or have you all forgotten so quickly? Don’t answer that, it’s pretty clear to us that you have.
Rob Eshman writes for the Jewish Journal:
Donald Trump has a white supremacist problem. The only question is whether he will ignore it, deny it or do something about it.
Trump has changed a lot of the rules in the campaign game, but one law he hasn’t broken is this: When you say divisive, nasty things, you empower divisive, nasty people.
Organizations that track hate crimes against Jews and others have been following what we can call the Trump Effect for the past year, and have compelling evidence that it is real.
White nationalist leaders including Jared Taylor and former Klansman David Duke have endorsed Trump. On Vanguard News Network, the largest white supremacist website, Trump is regularly referred to as “Glorious Leader.” Bloggers compare him to Hitler, treating him like the Second Coming of the Third Reich. In January, William Johnson, leader of the white supremacist American Freedom Party, paid for a series of robocalls in Iowa in support of Trump. Johnson convened a 2015 white power political event in Bakersfield at which Matthew Heimbach of the Traditionalist Youth Network gave a speech blaming Jews for destroying the white race.
“Donald Trump’s demonizing statements about Latinos and Muslims have electrified the radical right,” Mark Potok of the Southern Poverty Law Center wrote in his group’s 2015 report.
Instead of distancing himself from such supporters, Trump has retweeted their hate posts — then denied knowing he did so. He has used neo-Nazi statistics on black-on-white hate crime as his own, and has cited bogus polls by anti-Muslim hate groups, like ACT for America, claiming that a quarter of American Muslims support violent jihadists.
Jonathan Greenblatt, executive director of the Anti-Defamation League, put it to me as judiciously as possible.
“It’s very worrisome to see the convergence of that crowd and a mainstream candidate,” he said.
Yes, of course, Trump’s popularity extends far beyond the fringe. He has support among great numbers of fairly mainstream Tea Party types — something that is no less frightening. And there are plenty of people who disagree with his hateful statements but love his non-P.C. approach, or just find him entertaining. They don’t care whether Trump has the answers, they just care that he has the attitude.
All that is scary enough, but understandable in the context of an electorate on both the left and right that is fed up with politics as usual.
But what’s beyond the pale are the truly sick, dangerous forces Trump has unleashed, the poison he has uncorked.
“His platform’s great and just the right mix, this is the will of the majority,” wrote a frequent blogger on Vanguard News Network who goes by the name Joe Smith. “And that’s why ALL the Jews are boycotting him (Univision, Comcast/NBC, Macy’s, all owned by Jews). Jews’ attack dogs are also getting into the fray making their masters happy.”
There have always been right-wing voices that veer toward outright racism and feed the anti-Semitic fantasies of sad, white men. The ’80s brought us Pat Buchanan, for instance.
But two things set Trump far apart from his predecessors: the rise of talk radio and social media, which provide an unlimited echo chamber for hate, and Trump himself, who with his money and marketing genius, has now all but run away with the nomination.
Meanwhile, the revitalized network of white supremacists, anti-Semites and neo-Nazis that Trump inspires poses as big if not bigger threa to the average American than ISIS. Over the past two decades, these hate groups have planned and/or perpetrated dozens of attacks, killings and plots against the Jewish community, among others. According to a report in The New York Times, Islam-inspired terror attacks accounted for 50 fatalities over the past 13 1/2 years. Meanwhile, right-wing extremists averaged 337 attacks per year in the decade after 9/11, with 254 fatalities. While some sources dispute how these numbers are tallied, a survey of 372 police and sheriff’s departments nationwide found that 74 percent of the law officers view antigovernment violence as the greatest source of violent extremism, while 39 percent listed “Al Qaeda-inspired” violence.
Nearly all media outlets have given Trump a pass for helping to stoke these fires. Not one debate moderator has confronted Trump about it.
So, who will hold Trump accountable?
It won’t be the Republican establishment, which for seven fat years was more than happy to let Trump build his political brand and undermine the Democrats by stoking racist theories about President Barack Obama’s nationality. It won’t be Jewish Republican donors, now moving on from Jeb Bush. Most of those won’t have anything to do with Trump, and in any case, he doesn’t need anyone’s money or advice. And it won’t be the Democrats, whose worries will just be dismissed as partisan.
That leaves only one possible source of hope.
Trump’s grandchildren.
Trump’s daughter Ivanka converted to Judaism before marrying real estate scion Jared Kushner in 2009, so she and her two children, Arabella, who is 4, and Joseph, who is 2, are Jewish.
Does Trump understand he is inspiring the very people who want to see his grandchildren dead? Does he remember the 2014 attack on a Jewish Community Center in Kansas that left three people dead, perpetrated by a devoted contributor to the Vanguard News Network, the same network that refers to Trump as its “Glorious Leader”? Why is Trump not publicly rejecting them? Why is he not backtracking on the divisive racial comments he’s made, the ones that bring these lowlifes and rejects firmly into his camp?
Call me naive, but I still believe in the power of a grandchild to melt a grandparent’s heart. I believe that one day soon, Trump will look into Arabella’s and Joseph’s eyes and see what a dangerous path he’s on. We’re counting on you, kids. Good luck.