From Tolerance to Equality: How Elites Brought America to Same-Sex Marriage (6-29-25)

01:00 Book: From Tolerance to Equality: How Elites Brought America to Same-Sex Marriage, https://lukeford.net/blog/?p=161625
04:00 Diversity: A Managerial Ideology, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX6CGuJ2U3g
30:00 I try to find empathy for the pain of Iran’s mullahs after they lose their nuclear program to Israeli and American bombing
57:00 Hero systems, https://lukeford.net/blog/?p=146534
darel paul, 3:30 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUzaG6UAXDA
1:13:20 Michael joins to discuss Elon Musk, https://x.com/Michaelmvlog
1:28:00 Michael Wolff’s latest book: All or Nothing: How Trump Recaptured America
1:32:00 How much of a role does Melania play in Trump’s politics and life?
1:34:00 Fight: Inside the Wildest Battle for the White House, https://www.amazon.com/Fight-Inside-Wildest-Battle-White/dp/006343864X
1:37:00 Is Trump post-sexual?
1:40:00 Trump & Elon get their energy and courage from not nice sides of their personality
Does Israel support the kurds because it is nice? No, because it weakens other arab states.
2:20:00 Everybody wants to change the world, https://lukeford.net/blog/?p=158213
2:26:00 Academics are defined by peer review
2:28:00 I Ask AI To Write Me Some Jokes, https://lukeford.net/blog/?p=161651
2:40:00 Why would Israel want to wreck their Arab neighbors? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTzILjAtZAc
2:42:50 Will Russia or China give Iran nuclear weapons? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhmguIBPxqY
2:46:20 The Enforcer: ISRAEL PREPARES TO STRIKE IRAN! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ru3r51oA62U
2:53:00 The Israeli press has just had their own Yom Kippur, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SS9yV3TQabc
2:58:00 The most important week in US politics in 30 years, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dp75wqOrtBs
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3:01:20 America is back, baby! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxcYunTg3XE
3:06:60 What are America’s Judeo-Christian principles (gay rights?), https://www.youtube.com/live/wRjzpNrrDCc
3:08:45 Why is America pro-Israel? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6Zisl4_VpU
3:19:00 Podcast: The Victory of the LGBT Movement – Darel E. Paul, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EUzaG6UAXDA
3:24:00 The Left uses homosexuality as a marker that we on the Left are good and you on the right are bad

A friend says:

A friend of mine asking about coverage of Israel asked me when it was that the American press dropped its pretense of neutrality and started writing more advocacy journalism pieces.

I told him that I thought it dated from when gays became such a large part of the newsroom, that newspapers became vehicles to promote not only acceptance of homosexuality but also of same sex marriage. Richard Berke made some conference in the early 2000’s (or perhaps the 1990’s) to the effect that 75% of the reporters and editors deciding what would be front page news in the NYT were gay. The NYT sets the agenda for the rest of the newspapers and electronic media. That is why when the example you brought up about how a book describing some negative things about how same sex marriage affected children, was in effect suppressed in concert by the rest of media.

The discussion about tolerance and acceptance also rings true. My own theory is that Gays recognize that there is something “wrong” with them. This is not surprising. Any minority group, including Jews and non whites, also feels on some level there is something “wrong” with them because they don’t share the same beliefs or skin color of the dominant group. How they deal with this however, differs from how gays deal with this. Gays demand that their same sex relationships be as valued, cherished and promoted as opposite sex relationships. They want people to believe that two parents of the same sex are a beneficial for children as a heterosexual couple. They always like to point out that a stable homosexual union is better than an unstable heterosexual union, but don’t compare a stable heterosexual union to a gay union.

What drives gays in their attempt to get the rest of society to not only tolerate, or understand, but embrace gay “values” or gay “culture” is that Gays believe on some level that homosexuality is “wrong.”

Whenever any group feels that its behavior, or immutable characteristics such as skin color, or religious beliefs are out of the mainstream and therefore “wrong” the question is how do the individuals as well as the group deal with that. The big difficulty that any outsider has to come to grips with is whether that person or group needs outside validation. Gays definitely believe that they need outside validations, hence all the articles, lawsuits, legislation and outright propaganda to compel non gays to accept them as “normal.” The reality should be that there are huge variations among humans in terms of their sexuality and that although gays may not be normal in the sense that they are a relatively small minority, that there is nothing wrong with them. That should come from within, but Gays are hung up on needing outside validation.

(You can contrast this as to how Jews achieved normalcy. They did this through economic power, and through success in the professions and arts despite discrimination (less than commonly believed) against them. They also did achieve elective office. Blacks who never understood that real power lay in achieving economic success, relied on civil rights laws and elections of black officials with the exception of creating a large black middle class who were either the beneficiaries of government jobs or DEI initiatives at large corporations. Has electing black mayors and having them select black chiefs of police had a positive impact for blacks?

Jews and Blacks (as examples) have a right to demand that they not only be tolerated, but understood and accepted in a way that recognizes them as part of the essential fabric making up America. It is not difficult to accept that some men prefer to have sex with other men rather than with women (and the same is true for Lesbians as well). However, as long as that is behind closed doors that is very different than showing pride parades, and asking ordinary folks to think of that as reasonable behavior.

Grok:

Dive into a riveting podcast episode where a speaker, an Orthodox Jewish convert, unpacks America’s cultural battles with sharp wit and insight. Drawing on Daryl E. Paul’s *From Tolerance to Equality*, they reveal how elites in media, academia, and professions drove same-sex marriage’s rise, sidelining religious freedom in a zero-sum clash. The discussion explores diversity as a managerial ideology, empowering professionals while marginalizing traditional values. In 2025, conservatives, led by Trump and DeSantis, fight back, reshaping institutions and narratives. The speaker also delves into Israel’s strategic moves, like supporting Kurdish nationalism, to counter regional rivals. Blending humor, personal anecdotes from a colorful past, and incisive analysis, this episode is a must-listen for anyone curious about culture wars and power dynamics.

– **Elite Influence**: How professionals shaped same-sex marriage acceptance.
– **Zero-Sum Conflict**: Gay rights vs. religious freedom.
– **Conservative Pushback**: Trump and DeSantis challenge left-wing dominance.
– **Israel’s Strategy**: Supporting Kurds to weaken rivals.
– **Personal Journey**: Humor ties speaker’s past to cultural critique.

Bob writes: I ran the transcript by Grok and asked for factual errors.

1. **Claim about Anti-Sodomy Laws (12:54-13:05)**

**Transcript**: “by the year 1970 virtually every state I think 49 of America’s 50 states had anti-sodomy laws where effectively it was illegal for men to have sex with with men but by 1993 only a minority of states had anti-sodomy laws and then eventually in the 1990s anti-sodomy laws were ruled illegal…”

**Error**: The timeline and specifics are inaccurate. In 1970, most U.S. states did have anti-sodomy laws, but the claim that “49 of America’s 50 states” had them is likely an exaggeration, as some states had begun repealing or modifying these laws earlier. By 1993, more than a minority of states still had anti-sodomy laws; approximately 24 states retained such laws. The U.S. Supreme Court did not rule anti-sodomy laws unconstitutional until 2003 in *Lawrence v. Texas*, not in the 1990s as claimed. The transcript’s timeline is off by about a decade.

2. **Claim about the Hawaii Court Ruling (13:25-13:30)**

**Transcript**: “in December 1996 there was a Hawaii state circuit court judge who ruled that a strictly opposite sex definition of marriage violated the state’s constitutional commitment to equal protection…”

**Error**: The date and context are slightly misleading. The Hawaii case referenced is likely *Baehr v. Lewin* (1993), where the Hawaii Supreme Court (not a circuit court) ruled that denying same-sex couples marriage licenses could violate the state’s constitutional equal protection clause unless the state could show a compelling interest. This was not a final ruling legalizing same-sex marriage but a preliminary decision requiring further justification. No definitive ruling in December 1996 declared opposite-sex-only marriage unconstitutional; instead, subsequent legal and political actions (e.g., a 1998 state constitutional amendment) restricted marriage to opposite-sex couples in Hawaii until later changes. The transcript oversimplifies and misdates the legal event.

3. **Claim about Corporate America’s Support for Same-Sex Marriage (14:15-14:21)**

**Transcript**: “one curious facet of the growing recognition and support for same-sex marriage is how corporate America has been way ahead of the American people when it comes to equality for gay lesbian bisexual transgendered people…”

**Error**: The claim that corporate America was “way ahead” of the public is overstated and lacks nuance. While some corporations began adopting inclusive policies (e.g., domestic partner benefits) in the 1990s and early 2000s, widespread corporate support for same-sex marriage largely followed public opinion shifts, not preceded them. Polls (e.g., Gallup) show public support for same-sex marriage reached a tipping point around 2010-2011 (about 50%), aligning with when many corporations began vocal advocacy, often in response to market pressures and employee expectations. Corporate America’s actions were often pragmatic, not pioneering, and closely tracked elite and professional class trends rather than leading public sentiment.

4. **Claim about the New York Times’ Shift on Same-Sex Marriage (16:10-16:25)**

**Transcript**: “approximately between 1992 and 1994 the New York Times went from refusing to publish same-sex union announcements to in the words of its public editor presenting the social and cultural aspects of same-sex marriage in a tone of cheerleading…”

**Error**: The timeline and characterization are inaccurate. The New York Times did not begin publishing same-sex commitment ceremony announcements until 2002, not between 1992 and 1994. The decision to include these announcements followed internal debates and reflected broader societal shifts, not a sudden change within two years. The claim about the public editor’s statement also lacks a specific citation and seems exaggerated; while the Times’ coverage became more supportive of same-sex marriage over time, no public editor statement from that period explicitly describes the paper’s tone as “cheerleading.” The transcript compresses and misrepresents the timeline of the Times’ evolving stance.

About Luke Ford

I've written five books (see Amazon.com). My work has been covered in the New York Times, the Los Angeles Times, and on 60 Minutes. I teach Alexander Technique in Beverly Hills (Alexander90210.com).
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