Richard Spencer appears on this October 28, 2017 podcast.
Eighty nine minutes in, a host says: “I want to give you a chance to clear the air. I notice that a fair amount of people criticize you for being weak on the JQ. I’ve heard you describe ideologues you don’t like as having a Jewish hearth. I’ve heard you talk in depth about the extent of Jewish influence and I’ve heard you juxtapose Jewish philosophy with that of our people. What do you have to say to your critics? Is there something about your style that people don’t get?”
Richard: “It’s a question of style. And also it’s a strategic choice. There are people who I consider friends and colleagues such as Andrew Joyce, I’m working on his manuscript which is a book on the Jewish Question [Talmud and Taboo], and Kevin MacDonald, who’s spoken at the last four NPI conferences… They’ve done an amazing job deconstructing the Jewish mind and seriously considering the Jewish Question. It is probably my role to focus on other areas and to look at ourselves and to remind us that Jews do have power because we allow them to. They aren’t just this outside entity, like Israel that controls American foreign policy, but they’re in our heads. They’ve been able to inform how we understand ourselves and how we understand the world.”
“That’s kinda a meme from 2016 that I’m pro-Jewish or want to avoid this question. I don’t know how anyone can say that now. I’ll never live down [his joke that homosexuals are the last stand of implicit white identity]… That is obviously a serious misunderstanding of how I see the world and what I believe.”
Host: “I’ve been asked many times — what is it with you and the Jews. I say, you misunderstand the fundamental point of my opposition. These things that I see as damaging and degenerative to my society just happen to coincide with the Jews. Is it a Jewish thing? I don’t know. I’m railing against things that I see as destructive in my society. I can’t help but notice. But is it motivated by the Jews? No. They’re a symptom of the larger problem that needs to be addressed.”
Richard: “I agree with that to a large extent. The problem to a large extent is in ourselves. I’m not sure that Jewish power, to the degree to which they have it right now, can function outside the white race. If the white race were to end, I’m not sure the Jews could control the Chinese in the way they control us. They don’t just control us merely through political power, they control us through moral power. We think that they are sacred, that they are’t just another people. The Jewish Question ultimately has to be a question about us. How do they have such a hold over our minds that their history is sacred. Their schema in creating culture has had such a hold over our minds. The JQ is ultimately a WQ (White Question).”
Host: “As a father of children that if they whine loud and long enough, I’ve been known to give in. Fundamentally, white people seem to be conflict averse. If you will just stop your kvetching, hush.”
Richard: “The myth of the Holocaust is far more powerful than the fact of the Holocaust. There was a tremendous amount of suffering. We don’t have to talk about numbers. There is a tremendous amount of suffering in the world. History is a slaughter bench. The Rape of Nanking is not sacred to white people in the way the Holocaust does.”
“Why is their history sacred? I think a lot of it has to do with that we are worshiping their God.”
