What Does It Mean To Be A Man in 2023?

I just read the 2007 book Beer, Babes, and Balls: Masculinity and Sports Talk Radio by left-wing social worker and author David Nylund.

Here are some highlights from the book:

* I view masculinity as a social construction that assumes different forms in different historical moments and contexts.

* Men can pay a cost—in the form of poor health, shallow/narrow relationships, for instance—for conformity with the narrow definitions of masculinity that promise to bring them status and privilege.

* “A Martian arriving on Planet Earth and not knowing what masculinity was would quickly form the opinion that it is a highly damaged and damaging condition with very few, if any, redeeming features.”

I agree with the left that masculinity, like femininity, is a socially construction “that assumes different forms in different historical moments and contexts.” I agree with the right that masculinity and femininity are genetically constructed.

Society and genes make us who we are.

The claim that modern masculinity has no virtues is absurd.

So what does it mean to be a man today? If someone exhorted you “to be a man,” what are they saying?

Here is my vision for masculinity at this time and place:

* Mastery. A man should have mastery of himself. He should drink what he chooses to drink, eat what he chooses to eat, watch the amount of TV that is aligned with his best interests, and put in the type of performance at work and with his family that makes him feel good about himself. A man who regularly compulsively participates in his own destruction is not a man.

A man should not only have mastery over himself, he should also have mastery over many different parts of life, including his education, profession, and family (chiefly protecting and providing). A man lacking in mastery is not a man.

* A man should be at ease with reality, including hierarchy and rules. A man realizes that every community has hierarchy and rules. A man recognizes when it is appropriate for him to lead and when he should follow, when he should sing and when he should dance and when he should make romance.

* Men are more physically aggressive than women. Ninety five percent of men are physically stronger than women their age. A man is at ease with his aggression and channels it in productive ways, such as working out. Men love to compete within the rules, while women usually hate competition with its stark winners and losers, and when life forces them to compete, they often don’t observe any rules.

It’s not pathological to enjoy competition and to recognize that one of the responsibilities of manhood is the willingness to take the life of a predator to protect those you love. The world is filled with dangerous men and a real man recognizes that reality and takes steps to protect himself and his community.

From the book:

* “When they talk sports, they usually report-talk: they offer information, competing to establish who is most informed. It’s a verbal one-upmanship, an oral contest. This competitive conversation simultaneously establishes both hierarchy and unity: we are men talking about men’s interests.”

* Many men, in response to these changes, searched for places “where they could be real men with other men” and where they could actively exclude women, nonnative-born whites, men of color, and homosexuals. Men created homosocial organizations (male-only spaces) such as fraternal lodges, rodeos, college fraternities, and the Boy Scouts to initiate the next generation of traditional manhood.

* Sports talk, which today usually means talk about mediated sports, is one of the only remaining discursive spaces where men of all social classes and ethnic groups directly discuss such values as discipline, skill, courage, competition, loyalty, fairness, teamwork, hierarchy, and achievement. Sports and sports fandom are also sites of male bonding.

* sports talk radio, even more than political talk radio, is the only arena left for white men who have been “wounded by the indignities of feminism, affirmative action, and other groups’ quest for social equality”…

* Sports talk show is a venue for the embattled White male seeking recreational repose…

* in-group humor is a primary feature of men’s relationships; “that the male bond is built upon a joking relationship that negotiates the tension men feel about their relationships with each other, and with women”…

* in-group humor gives regular listeners a sense of community based on mutually shared background and common knowledge. The incessant focus on pathologizing Michael Jackson appears to function in maintaining group solidarity among Rome and his clones. As Meyer (1997) writes, “Humor’s power in communication lies in sociability, as people share in communicating similar perceptions of the normal and abnormal”(p.191). Ridiculing Jackson, in this sense, helps to construct the clones as “normal.”

* The [Jim Rome] show’s popularity reveals men’s anxiety about finding their place in the modern world, and then seeking a “third place” to connect and even earn the respect of other men. Furthermore, the irony and masculinist humor of Rome’s show may not necessarily hide a macho agenda; rather, they conceal the nervousness of men who might prefer a simpler gender and economic order, but are attempting to face up to modern realities anyway. Respect is earned not only through sexism or irony but by presenting oneself as open-minded and tolerant regarding issues of racism and homophobia, for example. Therefore, the Jungle community is many things, both enabling and constraining, including a mediated accountability community where men police each other in a postfeminist, post-civil rights America.

* A man doesn’t just do things to feel like he’s doing something. A man weighs the consequences of his words and actions. He recognizes with Tom Sowell that there are no solutions, only trade-offs.

* A man has other options than just sports talk radio to bond with men. A man should spend most of his spare time with other men. Men need a tribe. The more you have in common with others, the more likely you are to bond with them. It’s not a weakness or a flaw or a pathology or a sin to prefer to be around people like yourself. Most people benefit from a strong in-group identity.

A man shouldn’t need to turn to talk radio to assuage his loneliness. He should have friends and community in addition to family.

Men are predisposed by their genes to fuck and to fight. Men should be part of male-only communities that elevates these basic instincts in healthy directions. Men around women are frequently the watered-down version of themselves that is acceptable to feminist-run HR departments.

I might be biased here. I’m from Australia, the most sexually-segregated first-world nation.

* A man isn’t self-promoting.

* Once you’ve found your tribe, you’ve found your identity and your ethic and you won’t need uncertainty-reducing cons like right-wing talk radio and Fox News.

* Talk radio gave listeners a way to tap into the nation, into public opinion, into a community that they did not have before, where they could hear viewpoints that had not been filtered and homogenized by the TV networks and their news anchors … Listeners find themselves politically isolated at work or at home, deprived of any forum for discussion or debate. Co-workers and family members were either politically apathetic and ignorant or of a different political persuasion, which meant that going back and forth with them about cur-rent affairs would be frustrating, even infuriating. But tuning into talk radio, people could hear other points of view, even outrageous points of view, and they could take them in quietly, or scream back at the radio without fear of an altercation.

* Constructed certitude provides a sense of stability amid men’s current insecurities and anxieties. The construction of certitude offers a magical resolution to questions of identity, eradicating doubt and uncertainty in a society that is perceived as increasingly fragile and ambiguous.

* According to the book, “sports talk can momentarily break down barriers of race, ethnicity, age, and class. …sport facilitates the transient construction of alliances across racial, class, and even ethnic lines: White suburbanites, inner-city Latino and African American men can all support the New York Knicks or the Los Angeles Dodgers.” That’s great temporarily. It’s not a universal ideal. A man should be at ease with the reality of group differences.

* Men need healthy enthusiasms outside of their family such as career, education, religion, and hobbies.

* Almost every man has had the experience of being punched in the face and has learned not to say certain derogatory things (to avoid “fighting words”). Most women have not been punched in the face and hence they often say things that would get a man a good thumping.

* A man has appropriate levels of fear.

* A man should be at ease with the natural passions. He shouldn’t judge himself for wanting sex, fame, fortune, status and the like. He should spot these passions rising into view and then master them.

* A man doesn’t need other people to tell him who he is (but when he gets useful feedback, he’s grateful). A man is primarily self-validating. For example, if I think this blog post is good and nobody else does, that should be OK for me.

* A man doesn’t placate more than is absolutely necessary.

* A man should feel like the king of his castle. Even if he lives with his family, he should have his own space. A man needs his cave.

* A man should feel good if his life is less than 95% selfish.

* A man will feel better when he has the clarity that almost all of our major institutions are controlled by the left who have a radically different conception of masculinity from the traditional one.

The challenges men face today are similar to the ones faced by the feudal lord who had to move to court and code-switch from lord-speak to courtier-speak, as Rony Guldmann explains in his work-in-progress, Conservative Claims of Cultural Oppression: On the Nature and Origins of Conservaphobia:

* Beset on the one side by the ever-expanding political power of the centralized monarchies and on the other by the new economic prowess of an emerging bourgeoisie, the old feudal nobility found itself progressively emasculated, both militarily and economically, stripped of the glorious self-sufficiency that was the hallmark of an earlier, more anarchic period. Retaining any vestige of their former power and prestige now required, not physical prowess and military excellence, but cultivating the right relationships with the founts of power. And this, at its limit, came to mean taking up full-time residence in the absolutist monarchic court. One of the most decisive developments in the Western civilizing process, writes Elias, was the transformation of warriors into courtiers.92 For this political transition entailed a set of thoroughgoing psychological changes that would eventually spread beyond the monarchic courts and profoundly affect the identity of the modern West, shaping our basic concept of what it means to be “civilized.”

* “He is no longer the relatively free man, the master of his own castle, whose castle is his homeland. He now lives at court. He serves the prince. He waits on him at table. And at court he lives surrounded by people. He must behave toward each of them in exact accordance with their rank and his own. He must learn to adjust his gestures exactly to the different ranks and standing of the people at court, to measure his language exactly, and even to control his eyes exactly. It is a new self-discipline, an incomparably stronger reserve that is imposed on people by this new social space and the new ties of interdependence.”

This new social space generated a new personality/affective structure, a new “peculiarly courtly rationality”97 under whose aegis “the coarser habits, the wilder, more uninhibited customs of medieval society with its warrior upper classes, the corollaries of an uncertain, constantly threatened life” became “softened,” “polished,” and “civilized.”98 Medieval mayhem and wantonness could become suppressed because it is only at this point in Western history, with the radical heightening of the level of the day-to-day, and indeed minute-to-minute, coercion which one individual was capable of exerting on another, that “the demand for ‘good behavior’ is raised more emphatically,” and that “[a]ll problems concerned with behavior take on new importance.”

…More primitive social arrangements unmarked by complicated chains of human interdependency generally encouraged either “unambiguously negative relationships, of pure, unmoderated enmity” or else “unmixed friendships, alliances, relationships of love and service.”111 Hence, for example, what Elias describes as the “peculiar black-and-white colouring of many medieval books, which often know nothing but good friends or villains.”112 But the extended chains of functional dependencies in which one was enmeshed at court—and which were simultaneously arising within the wider society as a whole—encouraged heretofore unknown levels of ambiguity, contradiction, and compromise in the feelings and behavior of people. These now became marked by “a co-existence of positive and negative elements, a mixture of muted affection and muted dislike in varying proportions and nuances.”113 The courtiers had to become more calculating, less wholehearted in their sentiments—less “sincere” and “authentic,” we might say. Such was simply inevitable given the new intertwining layers of social interdependency. If people developed a new moral sophistication, this was the product, not of advancing knowledge, but of the gradual introjection of social exigencies, the muting of affect-structure required by the peculiarly courtly rationality.

This new social and psychological sophistication emerges hand-in-hand with the lowering of the threshold of shame, embarrassment, and repugnance in the social relations of the European upper classes, as “people, in the course of the civilizing process, seek to suppress in themselves every characteristic that they feel to be ‘animal.’”114 There was an intensification of disgust before the ejection of saliva, which becomes increasingly surrounded by taboos.115 Attitudes toward food, and meat in particular, also became transformed. Whereas the carving of a dead animal at table was previously a matter of indifference, or possibly pleasure, the new standard required eliminating any reminders that a meat dish has something to do with the killing of animals. The animal origin of meat dishes had to be “so concealed and changed by the art of its preparation and carving that while eating one is scarcely reminded of its origin.”116 In the same spirit, eating with one’s hands becomes increasingly taboo, as the fork and individual cutlery and crockery were introduced into the dining experience.

Much of Rony Guldmann’s book can be read as Masculine Claims of Cultural Oppression: On the Nature and Origins of Manaphobia, just replace “liberal” with “feminine” and “conservative” with “masculine”:

Enjoying the plausible deniability provided by a façade of democratic idealism, the liberal elites have quietly colonized a host of powerful social institutions—the judiciary, academia, public public schools, large foundations, the media, entertainment, and others—through which they now pursue unofficially what earlier clerisies had to pursue officially. They do not marginalize or excommunicate in the name of some codified orthodoxy like Catholic teaching or Talmudic law. But conservatives believe that the cumulative social prestige arrogated by this “rising class” is the functional equivalent of such an orthodoxy, imbuing the liberal elites’ pronouncements with a special power to cut off debate and silence dissent. Seeking above all to maintain this power, this new secular priesthood will badger, scold, and bully all who defy it. And this means conservatives. If they strike liberal professors like Connolly as angry and obstreperous, this is as a natural reaction to this new regime, to provocations whose very existence the elites refuse to acknowledge.

* Liberalism is not just a political orientation, but a totalistic worldview and way of being that has by now crept into the American psyche itself and can always be discovered at work in the seeming trifles of social life and pop culture—suffocating conservatives from all sides. Liberalism is not sustained by reason and argument, but by the mores and pieties that liberals have quietly entrenched as the unquestioned, taken-for-granted background of things—a parochial ethos into which the populace has become progressively indoctrinated by small, often imperceptible increments. In issuing their claims of cultural oppression, conservatives seek to awaken their fellow Americans to this hidden reality.

* Diagnosing the roots of liberal hostility toward home-schooling, Kevin Williamson observes: “The Left’s organizing principle is control, and the possibility that children might commonly be raised outside of its control matrix is an existential threat from the progressive point of view. Institutions such as free markets and free speech terrify progressives, because they are the result of arrangements in which nobody is in control… Home-schooling isn’t for everybody, but every home-school student, like every firearm in private hands, is a quiet little declaration of independence. It’s no accident that the people who want to seize your guns are also the ones who want to seize your children.”

* Like many on the Left, conservative claimants of cultural oppression believe that “the personal is the political.” Given liberals’ insatiable lust for control, what were once purely private preferences on how best to educate one’s children have now become political acts—“quiet little declarations of independence” through which to hold off left-liberal hegemony for yet another day. Conservative claims of cultural oppression seek, not primarily to highlight liberalism’s flaws as a political philosophy, but to expose its transgressions as a social practice that works to demoralize and delegitimize those who remain steadfastly loyal to “traditional American values”—gun owners, home schoolers, housewives, church goers, the police, ranchers, small business entrepreneurs, and others. The ordered liberty of the conservative is a basic threat to liberal control and so must be targeted at every turn as a danger to the civilized order, the idea of which has now become identified with liberalism itself. If liberals are hostile toward the home-schooling to which some conservative parents are drawn, this is because those parents cannot be counted upon to civilize their children in the manner prescribed—that is, to raise their children as liberals. That is why those children must be seized.

Conservative claimants of cultural oppression see themselves, not only as the losers in a “war of ideas” that was always rigged against them, but furthermore as a quasi-ethnic group being encroached upon by a foreign colonial power that is endlessly contemptuous of their native folkways and bent on replacing these with its own supposedly more advanced culture. The National Review laments: “The crusade against private gun ownership is, for the Left, a kulturkampf. The sort of people who are likely to own or enjoy firearms are the sort of people who are most intensely detested by the social tendency that produced Barack Obama et al. — atavistic throwbacks and “bitter clingers,” as somebody once put it. The Left’s jihad against hunters, rural people, shooting enthusiasts, and Second Amendment partisans will do effectively nothing to prevent lunatics from shooting up schools or shopping malls. That they would exploit the victims of these awful crimes in the service of what amounts to a very focused form of snobbery is remarkable.”

Notwithstanding their ostensible egalitarianism and pragmatism, the liberal elites are committed to their own particular brand of identity politics, complete with its own special kind of otherization. The “bitter clingers” who stand in the way of gun control are not merely criticized as misguided, but despised as occupants of a lower moral and cognitive order, atavisms of a barbaric past that liberals alone have superseded. Whereas now eclipsed traditionalist hierarchies revolved around perceived differences in things like sexual purity, work ethic, religious affiliation, family pedigree, and ethnic bona fides, the new status hierarchy of liberalism is rooted in “cognitive elitism” and centers around a morally charged division between those who are “aware” and those who are not, those who possess the psychic maturity to accede to liberalism and those who lack it and must be reformed. This kind of identity politics will always take refuge in some pragmatic-sounding pretext—e.g., the dangers of firearms or the inadequacies of home schooling. But conservatives dismiss this pragmatism as an elaborate façade for a status hierarchy that liberals refuse to acknowledge. If this hierarchy can go overlooked by “thinking people,” by the “educated,” this is because thoughtfulness and education are themselves now defined by the liberal dispensation. These have become mere badges of honor to be conferred on liberals and withheld from others. Liberals’ near-monopoly on the means of cultural reproduction lets their own kind of identity politics pass under the radar screen, camouflaged in an aura of hard-nosed utilitarianism.

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Decoding Skip Bayless (7-28-23)

01:00 Athletic: ESPN’s ‘First Take’: Skip and Stephen A. embraced debate, played the hits and changed TV, https://theathletic.com/4681066/2023/07/12/first-take-espn-stephen-a-smith-skip-bayless/
04:00 Skip Bayless: How is sports media’s most hated man so popular?, https://sites.northwestern.edu/sliceofsports/skip-bayless-how-is-sports-medias-most-hated-man-so-popular/
07:00 Mark Cuban destroys Skip Bayless, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRaO1mN5EEM
14:00 Beer, Babes, and Balls: Masculinity and Sports Talk Radio, https://lukeford.net/blog/?p=149406
18:00 The Science and the Art of Gurometry, https://decoding-the-gurus.captivate.fm/episode/the-science-and-the-art-of-gurometry
41:00 Yappy Days: Behind the Scenes with Newsers, Schmoozers, Boozers and Losers, https://lukeford.net/blog/?p=149400
58:30 Opie Thinks Anthony’s Book Is Lazy – with Erock and Mike Wolters, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FypR9fzWiuU
1:07:00 Radio DJs suspended over Bay Bridge stunt, https://www.upi.com/Archives/1993/05/27/Radio-DJs-suspended-over-Bay-Bridge-stunt/1178738475200/
http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/skip-bayless-espn2-first-take-co-host-may-be-the-most-hated-man-in-sports/2013/09/13/c001a7c2-170a-11e3-804b-d3a1a3a18f2c_story.html?itid=lk_inline_manual_2
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2013/09/24/nine-things-you-should-know-about-skip-bayless/
Permanently Suspended: The Rise and Fall… and Rise Again of Radio’s Most Notorious Shock Jock, https://lukeford.net/blog/?p=149373

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The Athletic: ESPN’s ‘First Take’: Skip and Stephen A. embraced debate, played the hits and changed TV

Monday, I saw Skip Bayless walking up Beverly Drive towards Wilshire Blvd as I was walking down towards Charleville Blvd. He wore aviator glasses that looked like the ones Jerry Jones wears. My Anglo-Saxon reserve won out over my Jewish enthusiasm and I did not approach him. I’m still kicking myself for that. I wanted to tell him my Tom Landry story. And what Lowell Cohn said about him. And I fantasized that we’d become friends and we’d cohost his show on Fox.

I’ve been a huge Skip Bayless fan since I started reading his nationally syndicated articles in 1982. Skip makes me feel alive, it’s like watching porn. Colors are more vivid, life is more exciting, vistas of of previously unexperienced pleasure open up in front of you.

The first time I saw Tom Landry in person, was December 22, 1986 at Candlestick Park. I was covering the game for KAHI/KHYL radio. San Francisco won 31-16, despite the Cowboys having many opportunities to run away with the game in the first half. It would be Dallas’s last season in the playoffs under Landry.

I went into the locker room and after listening to the leading 49er players speak from the podium, I headed towards the Cowboys room. On my way, I saw Tom Landry speaking to several reporters. I stopped and listened in. Tom was saying, “Well, I haven’t spoken to Skip Bayless in several years…”

Nov. 7, 2008, I interviewed San Francisco sports writer Lowell Cohn.

Luke: “Where would you place Skip Bayless as a writer?”

Lowell: “I know Skip because he worked at the San Jose Mercury News. We’re friendly. I would place Skip in the category of someone who’s connected. When he was a sportswriter, he was extremely well connected. He always knew that day what was the main issue in sports that day. He also could stir up controversy. Do I think he’s a great stylist? Not particularly. Was he an effective columnist? He was really good.”

In 2013, Skip told the Washington Post nine essential points about him, including: “The No. 1 thing you should know about me: I’ve always tried to put God first in my life, and I’m the first to admit I often have failed because I’m too proud and too stubborn. When I was a little kid going to Methodist church, I actually envisioned one day that I would become a minister but I never pursed that. Now, if I have any regret — if I wasn’t doing this job, I would be an orthopedic surgeon, because I like to help people. …I’m not trying to come across as pious because I’m not. But it’s bigger than most people know about me.”

How does Skip’s life demonstrate that God is his number one value? How is his life different for putting God first compared to if Skip were an atheist? I couldn’t tell you.

I didn’t particularly enjoy the pairing of Shannon Sharpe with Skip Bayless. Most of this type of content is Joe Rogan tier aka Goop for men.

From the July 12, 2023 article:

* One [Bayless] was a reserved former sports writer from Oklahoma who watched games in his hotel room all night, woke up at dawn to run for an hour and memorized a daily packet of notes to prepare for debates. The other [Stephen A. Smith] was a magnetic former newspaperman from New York who hated jogging, spent his nights in noisy arenas and sometimes rolled into the pre-show meeting with minutes to spare.

* The duo of Bayless and Smith — the television equivalent of baking soda and vinegar — lasted fewer than four years. Yet it changed the face of ESPN, the most powerful entity in sports media; led to a host of imitators; and inspired countless arguments about the role of television and cable news itself.

* In almost every instance, whenever a spike [in ratings] occurred, there was one reason:

Skip Bayless.

* Bayless was the kind of guy who bought a Camaro for the horsepower but said he only accelerated to the speed limit.

“Skip is a church mouse,” said Parker. “That’s his personality.”

* “There’s not a single person that prepares more for their job than Skip Bayless,” said Kevin Reeder, longtime “First Take” producer.

Above all, he formed arguments that forced people — whether out of agreement or anger — to react.

* Horowitz knew the show needed to center on Bayless… No one in the focus groups ever talked about Bayless’ debate partners on the show.

* When the numbers revealed that around 50 percent of the “First Take” audience was Black…

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Beer, Babes, and Balls: Masculinity and Sports Talk Radio (SUNY series on Sport, Culture, and Social Relations)

Here are some highlights from this 2007 book by David Nylund:

* I view masculinity as a social construction that assumes different forms in different historical moments and contexts.

* Men can pay a cost—in the form of poor health, shallow/narrow relationships, for instance—for conformity with the narrow definitions of masculinity that promise to bring them status and privilege.

* “A Martian arriving on Planet Earth and not knowing what masculinity was would quickly form the opinion that it is a highly damaged and damaging condition with very few, if any, redeeming features.”

* The late nineteenth-century American male image was that of a rugged individualist who, to escape civilizing constraints, went to work in exclusive male preserves, went to war with other men, and went West to find fortune, pitting his will against the perils of nature(Kimmel, 1996). However, as the United States became increasingly urban and mobile in the early twentieth century, these “masculine” options were no longer available, and men were forced to look else-where to reclaim their lost identities. To many middle-class white men, this retrieval of identity was vital due to the changing nature of work, the visibility of first-wave feminism, the closing of the frontier, and changes in family relations (e.g., modern urban boys being separated from their fathers and placed in the care of mothers or women schoolteachers). The resultant changes in work and family life brought on by urbanization led to fears of boys and men being feminized. Many men, in response to these changes, searched for places “where they could be real men with other men” (Kimmel, 1996,p.309) and where they could actively exclude women, nonnative-born whites, men of color, and homosexuals. Men created homosocial organizations (male-only spaces) such as fraternal lodges, rodeos, college fraternities, and the Boy Scouts to initiate the next generation of traditional manhood.

* Mediated sports texts function largely to reproduce the idea that traditional masculinity and heterosexuality are natural and universal rather than socially constructed.

* Sports talk, which today usually means talk about mediated sports, is one of the only remaining discursive spaces where men of all social classes and ethnic groups directly discuss such values as discipline, skill, courage, competition, loyalty, fairness, teamwork, hierarchy, and achievement. Sports and sports fandom are also sites of male bonding.

* promotes civic discourse and teaches us how to create community “for a lot of people who lead isolated, often lonely lives in America”…

* Self-confessed addict of sports talk Alan Eisenstock (2001) wrote abook titled Sports Talk, a masculinist celebration of the significance of sports radio and the sports talk radio junkie. He refers to sports talk shows as a “non-stop fraternity party, a sport bar on the radio”(p.3), in which men, through the medium of a call-in program, can interact with other men free from the censure of feminism and political correctness. Sports talk radio, from this perspective, is amass-mediated attempt at preserving male-only spaces reminiscent of the rise of fraternities and the Boy Scouts around the turn of the twentieth century.

* Talk radio’s appeal appeared to tap into the sense of public life, the isolation and exhaustion that come from overworking, and the increasing gap people felt between themselves and politicians. The genre represented a novel and often brash and aggressive way of creating a group identity within the homogenizing blitz of conventional mediafare.

* In Talk Radio and the American Dream, Murray Levin taped seven hundred hours of talk radio and found among callers a discourse worried about emasculation. The natural order of things now seemed reversed, so that crime, blacks, rich corporations, and women all had the upper hand. Talk radio became the discursive battleground on which to reclaim hegemonic masculinity and rid the United States of soft-spoken, New Age guys. Even though the callers lacked the power to ward off the verbal put-downs of the host, they kept coming back for more.

* sports talk radio, even more than political talk radio, is the only arena left for white men who have been “wounded by the indignities of feminism, affirmative action, and other groups’ quest for social equality”…

* Sports talk show is a venue for the embattled White male seeking recreational repose; that it caters to this audience as surely as Rush Limbaugh articulates its discontents. Some sports talk stations define their listening audience explicitly as the Atlanta sports station [The FAN] manager states, “we make no pretensions about what we’re doing here. The FAN is a guy’s radio station. We’re aiming at the men’s bracket which is the hardest to reach.

* It has been my experience that people in the media industry are wary of academics; they often believe that scholars read too much into the messages in the media. People in the media industries think their production practices are normal and ordinary—they take for granted what they do and say at work. I did not expect anyone to necessarily “spill the beans,” since most industry staff will not likely critique the negative sides of the sports business to an outsider, particularly an assistant professor.

* While driving on the freeway recently, I noticed a billboard that said, “Armstrong and Getty—Listen to them before we fire them.” Armstrong and Getty are local Sacramento talk show hosts who have quite a popular following. However, on their show they frequently mention the fear of being fired for saying something offensive or defying their station manager. The billboard is reflective of the volatility of the radio industry. There is a long history of hosts, disc jockeys, and pro-gram directors getting fired, moving around to different cities and different stations.

According to Wikipedia July 28, 2023: “Armstrong & Getty are the hosts of The Armstrong & Getty Show, a nationally syndicated morning drive radio show hosted by Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. The talk show format is a mixture of libertarian political commentary, observations on local, national, and international news as well as reflections on social issues presented with humor.”

* My analysis of the production staff interviews reflects this high level of job turnover and career insecurity. Both hosts and producers talked about sports radio industry reality: never knowing where you might end up and never knowing when your contract might not be renewed be-cause of poor ratings. The station manager said, “We are all just renting time in radio; our jobs are never safe.” In fact, while I was interviewing some local hosts and producers at one particular station, one of their colleagues (the host of a morning show) was fired by the station and the corporation (Infinity) due to insufficient sports knowledge and lack-luster ratings. One host said that ratings are a “constant source of tension—you never stop thinking about it. And it’s so fleeting; one month you’re up and the next you’re down.” Several said they take the ratings personally.

* Many spoke of the multiple balancing acts that sports radio work involves, including the pressure to attract advertising revenue while staying loyal to callers. All my interviewees referred to advertising as “a necessary evil.” Attracting advertising revenue is a constant source of tension for many, particularly for the station manager I interviewed. After making sure that I was going to honor his anonymity, he was openly critical of the advertising industry: “I do recognize their power … They [the advertisers] are our number one priority… let’s face it … without them we can’t give our listeners the sports stuff they want. But it is hard to always push new products like the latest gad-get or male enhancement pills! I got into this business because I love sports and call-in programming, not to push products.”

* KHTK, the sports talk radio station in Sacramento, California, has a contract with the NBA Sacramento Kings to air their games. KHTK’s sport stalk hosts are also employed by the Kings (the Kings are owned by Maloof Sports & Entertainment) to do play-by-play and pre-game and post-game commentary. Jeff Kearns (2003), in his article “Embedded with the Kings,” suggests that the KHTK’s hosts are “cogs in an expansive promotional and media machine that seemingly mixes Kings announcers, players, media outlets, and advertisers—all of whom capitalize on and profit from the success of the only big-name sports team in town”.

* You just know that you aren’t supposed to badmouth the people (the sports franchise owners, advertisers) who pay you … We do have to kiss ass to the advertisers, the Kings, and the corporate sponsors all the time … politics. It’s bullshit. If we are supposed to have journalistic freedom, we should be able to rip a coach/player/organization without them or their sponsors being upset about what you said.

* The tension between journalistic independence and the necessity to maximize advertising revenues may be a sign of the paradoxes and ambivalences of current masculinities as well as a reflection of the dynamics of commercial culture. Many of the products advertised on sports radio—automobiles, beer, gadgets, and male enhancement pills—are reflective of the laddish masculinity mentioned earlier (Ben-yon, 2002). Similarly, station ads (such as “sports talk radio—it’s just beer, babes, and brats!”) give the impression that the staff are not really working at all; it’s just one big fraternity party. Yet, all the hosts and staff I interviewed talk about long hours, fatigue, and work stress. How might we understand the discourses of hedonism in face of in-creased corporate pressures and work strain? One argument might be that the emphasis on pleasure-seeking is assembled to mask the increasingly bureaucratic and rational features of the modern work-place. Stories of sports radio as one big laddish celebration obscure the fact that sports radio staff are all involved in rational bureaucratic work organizations—a feature of many men’s work experience in today’s hypercapitalist culture (Faludi, 1999).

* Talk radio gave listeners a way to tap into the nation, into public opinion, into a community that they did not have before, where they could hear viewpoints that had not been filtered and homogenized by the TV networks and their news anchors … Listeners find themselves politically isolated at work or at home, deprived of any forum for discussion or debate. Co-workers and family members were either politically apathetic and ignorant or of a different political persuasion, which meant that going back and forth with them about cur-rent affairs would be frustrating, even infuriating. But tuning into talk radio, people could hear other points of view, even outrageous points of view, and they could take them in quietly, or scream back at the radio without fear of an altercation.

* Kevin Wheeler: Sports radio is popular for the same reason regular talk radio is popular—people feel like that they have a voice. Even if an individual doesn’t get to call, they know that there are others out there like them who will… Sports radio is about interaction, in my opinion. Callers take the time to call (and hold for thirty–sixty minutes sometimes) because they want to be heard, even if the expression of their opinions doesn’t effect a change.

Local host: Why is it popular? Because guys like to talk sports … it’s in our genes! We like to mix it up with other men; feel heard and express our opinions. We used to do that at bars, in our neighborhoods … But now, we are working all the time, so we do it in the car … It’s how we connect.

* Both Wheeler and the local host’s comments resonate with the idea that in late capitalist and privatizing culture, sports radio attempts to satisfy a need for humans (in this case, men) to participate in the public realm. Susan Herbst (1995) refers to this civic engagement as an “imagined community” created in electronic public space. Since many men in a neoliberal economy are working and living increasingly isolated lives, sports talk radio gives the listeners and callers a discursive space to create community and enjoy social interaction. Likewise, Pamela Haag (1996) believes that sports radio fulfills people’s desires to be “thrown together in unexpected, impassioned, even random social relations and communities”.

* The ethic of fandom is one, according to Haag, in which people can speak both fervently and politely. To her own bewilderment, she admits to being hooked on sports radio while writing her dissertation, finding the shows comforting and stress reducing. Equally, at times I find sports radio helpful as an antidote to a stressful and busy career. I have developed imaginary relationships with hosts and callers that have provided a sense of belonging.

* Female producer: Guys think they know everything about sports and everything else … they love to debate … they don’t listen to each other … just talking over each other … and everyone is a better coach than the coach that is currently doing the job … although many [hosts and callers] are out of shape and not athletic, they can live through their favorite players and prove their male superiority.

* “Men’s investment in spectator sports accordingly becomes an investment in their own projected superiority through the superiority of the best athletes.”

* “Sports is our common denominator. You can be a blue-collar worker and you can talk sports on equal level with the chairman of a Fortune 500 company. You can’t talk business that way, or world politics that way.”

* sports talk can momentarily break down barriers of race, ethnicity, age, and class. In his article analyzing sports talk discourse, Farred argues that “sport facilitates the transient construction of alliances across racial, class, and even ethnic lines: White suburbanites, inner-city Latino and African American men can all support the New York Knicks or the Los Angeles Dodgers.”

* sports talk can temporarily displace one’s primary racial, cultural, or ethnic identity.

* the romantic outlook on sports suggests that sports exists outside power, ignoring the reality that sports talk “is freighted with political import”…

* Constructed certitude provides a sense of stability amid men’s current insecurities and anxieties. The construction of certitude offers a magical resolution to questions of identity, eradicating doubt and uncertainty in a society that is perceived as increasingly fragile and ambiguous.

* sports radio is not sexist but merely echoing and honoring their listeners’ natural masculinity and desire for “guy stuff.” This outlook implies that masculinity (and male consumer desire) is fixed and ahistorical. Yet, the process of naturalizing heterosexual masculinity hides the reality that sports talk radio is not merely reflecting a “natural” manhood but helping to construct it.

* “it would be impossible to overstate the degree to which sports talk radio is shadowed by a homosexual panic implicit in the fact that it consists entirely of out-of-shape white men sitting around talking about black men’s buff bodies”…

* sports have become one of the last bastions of traditional male ideas of success, of male power and superiority over—and separation from—the feminization of society…

* The rule-bound, competitive, hierarchical world of sport offers boys an attractive means of establishing an emotionally distant (and thus “safe”) relationship with others…

* So, while the manifest function of The Jim Rome Show “is to talk about sports, its latent content function works to construct traditional masculinity as the show and its host collectively provide a clear and consistent image of the masculine role; a guide for becoming a man, a rule book for appropriate male behavior, in short, a manual on masculinity”…

* “for males, conversation is the way you negotiate your status in the group and keep people from pushing you around; you use talk to preserve your independence”(p.3). Men often use communication techniques and speech patterns to prove themselves and demonstrate their knowledge and expertise. Nelson (1994) suggests that sports talk is one way that men prove their masculinity: “When they talk sports, they usually report-talk: they offer information, competing to establish who is most informed. It’s a verbal one-upmanship, an oral contest. This competitive conversation simultaneously establishes both hierarchy and unity: we are men talking about men’s interests”

* in-group humor is a primary feature of men’s relationships; “that the male bond is built upon a joking relationship that negotiates the tension men feel about their relationships with each other, and with women”…

* in-group humor gives regular listeners a sense of community based on mutually shared background and common knowledge. The incessant focus on pathologizing Michael Jackson appears to function in maintaining group solidarity among Rome and his clones. As Meyer (1997) writes, “Humor’s power in communication lies in sociability, as people share in communicating similar perceptions of the normal and abnormal”(p.191). Ridiculing Jackson, in this sense, helps to construct the clones as “normal.”

* the show produces a sense of community among its listeners: mainly young educated middle-class men who have access to radio, email, and faxes during the working day. In this mediated space, a shared sense of community and a set of speech rules are created that provide a third place (not home or work) for men to connect and express their masculinity. Tremblay and Tremblay (2001) argue that “The Jim Rome Show produces a speech community that appears to have morphed the traditional identity of masculinity from that of a Muscular Christian of the Industrial Age to a glib narcissist of the Information Age. This “new man” seeks to be capable and competent in Rome’s radio Jungle to cope with the anxiety-producing challenges of the emerging millennium. In this constructed “place,” men bond by sharing a playful speech community that has become a substitution for the real physical experience formerly acquired in the tangible arenas—the wilderness, the playing, and battlefields—for testing manhood and achieving masculinity.”

* The show’s popularity reveals men’s anxiety about finding their place in the modern world, and then seeking a “third place” to connect and even earn the respect of other men. Furthermore, the irony and masculinist humor of Rome’s show may not necessarily hide a macho agenda; rather, they conceal the nervousness of men who might prefer a simpler gender and economic order, but are attempting to face up to modern realities anyway. Respect is earned not only through sexism or irony but by presenting oneself as open-minded and tolerant regarding issues of racism and homophobia, for example. Therefore, the Jungle community is many things, both enabling and constraining, including a mediated accountability community where men police each other in a postfeminist, post-civil rights America.

* the extraordinary media attention these behaviors (trash talking, taunting, dancing, and/or celebrating) receive seems out of proportion to their importance, since they provide little if any competitive advantage and seem to be only peripherally related to the actual competition. Simons argues that the extraordinary attention these sport behaviors receive is racially motivated in that black athletes are said to be largely responsible for such acts. These behaviors are seen to be a reflection of urban African American cultural norms, which conflict with white mainstream norms. In summary, Simons posits that the restrictions placed on such behaviors represent white male society’s response to the threat to white masculinity represented by black athletic superiority and by African American athletes’ assertion of the right to define the meaning of their behavior.

* sports media complex obsesses about African American athletes, allowing white sports fans to fulfill voyeuristic desires to look at black athletes. The homoerotic desire fetishizes black athletes, reducing their bodies to commodities…

* Rome’s nationalistic rhetoric has significantly increased since 9/11.

* American sports culture developed in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries, nativism and nationalism were shaping a distinctly American self-image that clashed with the non-American sport of soccer; baseball and football crowded out the game and reinforced the notion of American supremacy.

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Yappy Days: Behind the Scenes with Newsers, Schmoozers, Boozers and Losers

Here are some highlights from this 2016 book by talk radio producer Bernadette Duncan, the wife of Talkers magazine Michael Harrison:

* What makes some on-air talents big-time celebrities and household names while others – though competent, even award-winning – remain just voices and names on the radio?
Do you have to be dirty? Controversial? Scandal-ridden? Perhaps. But not always and not entirely. Sally Jessy Raphael wasn’t any of these things. Yet she was, indeed, a star.
Do you have to be singularly responsible for the ratings and the revenue generated by your show or time slot and recognized by your employers as such? In other words, must you be worthy of the most magic adjective with which a talent can be dubbed – indispensable? Now, we are in the ballpark. But exactly what makes a host or radio performer indispensable? It is the loyal legion of fans that make an appointment to listen to that particular host every day and tell their friends about what they heard the day before. It is also the large pool of advertisers that believe their businesses are significantly enhanced by being associated with that particular host and are willing to pay large sums for a personal product endorsement.
But what exactly are the qualities that make one talent a Howard or a Sally and another a “Gil who?” when they are all damn good at practicing the art of radio? How do you recognize and measure the intangibles that constitute likability, charisma and magnetism? How do you teach the “X Factor?”

* Producer Gary Dell’Abate – one of Howard’s closed circle of high-echelon sidekicks – then said something listeners would never hear on news stations anywhere else on radio, “It’s a terrorist attack, isn’t it?”
By the time the second tower was hit 18 minutes later, the Stern crew connected dots and moved the story forward – nearly 100 percent correctly. News reporters up and down the dial were straight-jacketed, mostly repeating and repeating only that which they knew could be verified. In the case of Stern, it was a rare example of unrestrained speculation during a breaking story actually being ahead of the pack AND correct.
When one of Howard’s cohorts asked, “Why doesn’t the news just call it like it is?” Gary the producer piped up again, “They’re a legit news organization – they’re not allowed to say what we’re thinking.”
And in that simple truth, he honed in on talk radio’s purpose: a place where people can discuss the messy, prejudiced, and sometimes ugly parts of life, speaking from a less-tailored part of the brain. Radio people are notorious for poor spelling and unkempt hair and wardrobe. Even callers know they can anonymously say the sorts of stuff normally shared with a friend over the bathroom stall.

* When Dobbs insisted on hiring a scriptwriter, I was struck silent. He actually wanted someone who would literally write out his monologues, transitions, and even interview segments with suggested questions and factoids.
A scriptwriter – for a talk show?
Spontaneity is the very essence of talk radio. It is the very heart of its beauty. If you script a talk show, you lose the genre. It becomes something… else. Since when is a talk show scripted? Radio, the naked human voice, is the great exposer. You can’t act your way into these thrills and revelry. It builds from within, goes deeper than words. It brings out the things that make us human. You can’t read your way through the thrill of a winning home run, you must feel your way. Or there’s a disconnect. The same principle applies in talk radio for the natural flow of conversation.

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