{"id":99953,"date":"2016-07-03T06:11:29","date_gmt":"2016-07-03T14:11:29","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=99953"},"modified":"2016-07-03T06:13:27","modified_gmt":"2016-07-03T14:13:27","slug":"whats-the-argument-against-nationalism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=99953","title":{"rendered":"What’s The Argument Against Nationalism?"},"content":{"rendered":"

Comments at Steve Sailer<\/a>:<\/p>\n

* It\u2019s really impressive how much out-of-control outrage the elite can get gin up over an argument that is so empty.<\/p>\n

What is actually wrong with nationalism? What is wrong with citizens of a country seeking to keep the country mostly intact with respect to its peoples and culture?<\/p>\n

I\u2019ve asked that question in any number of places. I\u2019ve never received what I would call a rational response.<\/p>\n

The elites have many smears they use for nationalism \u2014 nativist, xenophobe, racist, bigot. But, apart from these entirely emotional terms, what is the argument against nationalism?<\/p>\n

Their \u201carguments\u201d always end where they start: with scare mongering, with pretending that any nationalistic attitude is and must be a precursor to hate and fascism. But on what rational basis can they possibly leap to such extraordinary conclusions? Were the US and England fascist, hate-filled countries until we had massive immigration? In the US, were the years between the closing down of immigration in the 1920s and its opening up in the 60s an ongoing devolution into authoritarianism and hate? Weren\u2019t they instead a time a time when The Common Man was celebrated, a time of increasing prosperity for all and enfranchisement of all groups?<\/p>\n

Really, what\u2019s the argument? Why are the elites always reduced to talking about \u201cfear of the other\u201d (is there a more childish, or superstitious expression?), and \u201chate\u201d, and other boogeymen of their own manufacture when the subject of nationalism comes up?<\/p>\n

* Funny, whenever I\u2019ve used the word \u201ccosmopolitan\u201d in the sense that the globalists like to think of themselves, I\u2019ve been accused of using an old anti-semitic slur. Apparently, according to every single Jewish person I\u2019ve ever had encounters with, \u201ccosmopolitan\u201d was an old code-word for \u201cJew\u201d, slightly more noxious than calling someone a dirty kike or putting parentheses around their name. Perhaps I\u2019ve just been dealing with the wrong Jewish people.<\/p>\n

* I\u2019m told it is a horrible anti-semetic slur now. This, of course, by Jews who tell me that any time I oppose anything any Democrat wants to do that I\u2019m a Nazi or worse. (How the fuck I\u2019m supposed to be worse than a Nazi I don\u2019t know, but they insist upon it.) I guess that by saying \u201ccosmopolitan\u201d I\u2019m micro-aggressing against them, because I might slip \u201crootless\u201d into the conversation somewhere. You know, like saying \u201cniggardly\u201d is the same thing as calling for slavery.<\/p>\n

* I guess it depends on how you define sophisticated. Ross distinguishes between a surface cosmopolitanism and a deeper one, but one could argue Obama is more of a deeper cosmopolitan, having lived in places like Indonesia, rather than having just been a tourist.<\/p>\n

And I\u2019m sure Obama could speak knowledgeably about the latest cultural phenomena.<\/p>\n

But years ago, Steve wrote about Obama\u2019s skill at articulating the arguments of his opponents. I think that\u2019s less true today, as the Overton window has shifted to include more antagonistic opponents. I\u2019m sure Obama could articulate, say, Marco Rubio\u2019s views. But not Trump\u2019s.<\/p>\n

A temporary moratorium on Muslim immigration isn\u2019t something Obama would be comfortable batting around in the salons of Georgetown. It\u2019s something he\u2019d dismiss with a \u201cwrong side of history\u201d or a \u201cIt\u2019s not who we are\u201d.<\/p>\n

Same with Trump\u2019s views on trade or immigration in general. So, in that sense, Obama isn\u2019t sophisticated. As most cosmopolitans aren\u2019t.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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