{"id":9903,"date":"2009-08-22T20:23:28","date_gmt":"2009-08-23T04:23:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=9903"},"modified":"2009-08-23T03:12:18","modified_gmt":"2009-08-23T11:12:18","slug":"modesty","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=9903","title":{"rendered":"Modesty"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I was walking to shul on Pico Blvd this morning near two modestly dressed fat women in their thirties complaining about friends.<\/p>\n<p>One said: &quot;Even if a garment is loose and covers everything, it is not <em>tznious<\/em> (modest) if it is a certain color.&quot;<\/p>\n<p>Other woman: &quot;I agree.&quot;<\/p>\n<p>First woman: &quot;Some colors for painting your nails are not tznious.&quot;<\/p>\n<p>Other woman: &quot;I agree.&quot;<\/p>\n<p>I wonder how much of the venom these chubbies directed towards their friends was coming from religious fervor and how much was from a desire that every other woman look as shlumpy as they do?<\/p>\n<p>It reminds me of a friend in his 50s who I believe is a virgin. He recently complained to me that he wasn&#8217;t growing spiritually.<\/p>\n<p>&quot;Dude,&quot; I thought, &quot;You need to grow sexually, not spiritually. Get yourself a woman and grow spiritually with her on Friday nights as the Torah commands.&quot;<\/p>\n<p>Mary emails: Are there really colors of clothing that are considered immodest? I liked your post on that, because you&#8217;re right. The same thing happens in the Christian world. My sister went to a Christian college one year and left because the fat girls who always wore overalls were mean to her. They would yell &#8220;slut&#8221; out the window when she walked down the stairs in a skirt and tank top. And the funniest thing, is that my sister won&#8217;t drink alcohol or have premarital sex. It just goes to show that you can&#8217;t make judgments about people based on their clothing. Girls who are frumpy hate girls who are not.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I was walking to shul on Pico Blvd this morning near two modestly dressed fat women in their thirties complaining about friends. One said: &quot;Even if a garment is loose and covers everything, it is not tznious (modest) if it &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=9903\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[21],"tags":[18531,18532,3887,1017,18530,16637],"class_list":["post-9903","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-personal","tag-chubbies","tag-first-woman","tag-friday-nights","tag-pico-blvd","tag-religious-fervor","tag-torah-commands"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9903","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=9903"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9903\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":9905,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/9903\/revisions\/9905"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=9903"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=9903"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=9903"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}