{"id":96368,"date":"2016-05-17T07:23:22","date_gmt":"2016-05-17T15:23:22","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=96368"},"modified":"2016-05-17T07:34:46","modified_gmt":"2016-05-17T15:34:46","slug":"jews-on-the-alt-right","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=96368","title":{"rendered":"Jews On The Alt-Right"},"content":{"rendered":"

Comments at Steve Sailer<\/a>:<\/p>\n

* I suspect a lot of the Jews \u2018on our side\u2019 just don\u2019t make a lot of noise about being Jewish and do whatever else is required. Heck, Drudge has been beating the drum for Trump this whole time.<\/p>\n

* I\u2019d like to see the [Jewish] leadership make a deal too, but Kevin MacDonald is not going to usher in an American Holocaust. The country as a whole just isn\u2019t antisemitic enough, dictatorial powers are harder to assume with Congress fighting the President, and Americans don\u2019t follow orders as well as Germans, for better or worse.<\/p>\n

* This is actually has happened more than you might think, also in right wing movements in E. Europe. The Nazis believed (and in this they were probably not wrong) that Jews would rise to the top of any organization that does not take active measures to bar them. This makes sense given the gap in IQ, especially verbal IQ.<\/p>\n

The cream of the (1\/2) Jewish crop doesn\u2019t usually look for work in the leadership of right wing anti-Semitic organizations, but compared to the toothless dimwits that form the bulk of the membership, even an average mischling is a rocket scientist.<\/p>\n

* LF: Every strongly identifying group holds negative views of outsiders, or what is called \u201cracist\u201d or \u201cbigoted\u201d or \u201cnasty\u201d or \u201cugly.\u201d Jews no more or less than the Japanese, the Australians, the Tibetans, the Muslims, etc.<\/p>\n

When a goy strongly identifies with his race, religion or nation, he will be likely to hold some anti-Jewish views, just as when a Jew strongly identifies with being Jews, he will likely hold anti-goyim views.<\/p>\n

That\u2019s how social identity works. It is normal, natural and usually healthy.<\/p>\n

If people are arbitrarily divided into teams, they will quickly identify with their team and develop a filter that makes their team superior.<\/p>\n

Every people view themselves as specially chosen, the center of the universe, etc.<\/p>\n

* Drudge is a non-fem gay Jew. Such people often have off-the-charts verbal\/creative skills. He was broke and poor in LA for a few years, and just by working 60-hour weeks, week after week, built a simple website that made him millions of dollars and huge influence.<\/p>\n

While Drudge is not technically a paleo given that he gets caught up in pro-war fevers, he\u2019s closer than most other right-wing online people with big audiences, and does provide plenty of links to anti-war conservatives. He has always been a generous linker to Pat Buchanan and Ann Coulter. As well as the very dovish Republican Bob Novak when he was still alive.<\/p>\n

The anti-semite crowd, which presumably has the goal of getting the broader paleo right to adopt its views, really has no plan to replace the sizable Jewish talent like Drudge currently working for us.<\/p>\n

Drudge\u2019s really unique contribution is finding and promoting the articles that provide the best possible hard-right spin on the story of the day, plus promoting under-the-radar stories that have the potential to help our narrative, whether it is a Clinton scandal or news-worthy crime by blacks or illegals the MSM wants to avoid.<\/p>\n

* As a Jewish person, it\u2019s taken me a long time to get around to this position but at this point I agree. Anti white, anti-Christian sentiments are arguably considerably worse at this point than anti-Semitism.<\/p>\n

* Radix is not \u201canti-Semitic\u201d, that most certainly isn\u2019t their focus. An occasional article has some (((references))) but reminding readers of the disproportionate number of Jews in the media or government, which is normally why these are used, is not in itself anti-Semitic.<\/p>\n

Your further point about degrees of anti-Semitism is really important. I\u2019m Jewish and know people that:
\n1. Think Jews are disproportionately influential
\n2. Think they use that influence for their own gain
\n3. Think they also use that influence to attack their host societies
\n4. Think that all Jews should be exiled or exterminated as a result.<\/p>\n

For me, only #4 is truly anti-Semitic. #1 and 2 are obvious, and #3 has enough of an empirical and theoretical basis that it needs to at least be taken seriously and debated, not dismissed as some kind of irrational primal hatred.<\/p>\n

* I also am beginning to wonder if we should start thinking in terms of \u201cJewE,\u201d that is, of a Jewish establishment that produces \u201cofficial Jewish thought\u201d that does not necessarily reflect how rank-and-file Jews think. JewE would be the AJC, the ADL, etc.<\/p>\n

The question here is whether most Jews really support the ideas of JewE. Granted, a large number of them seem to support these ideas on the surface \u2013 but how many really believe in the foundational ideas, and how many just sort of go along for the same reason goodwhites in general do? (And of course, there are many who are opposed \u2013 Paul Gottfried, Nicholas Stix). If large numbers of Jews in Europe are supporting the \u201cright-wing\u201d parties, as I have heard they are, perhaps there is as large a gulf between JewE and rank-and-file Jews as between GOPe and rank-and-file Republicans.<\/p>\n

* But most American Jews actually do support all this anti-white silliness, though mostly through guilt rather than genuine animus. \u2018We have been oppressed, so we have the duty to defend the oppressed\u2019\u2013that sort of thing. Whether George Soros or Bill Kristol is thinking things out three steps ahead and swamping the country with nonwhites to prevent an Aryan uprising, I can\u2019t say\u2013wouldn\u2019t surprise me the way some of these guys work but they could be sincere too. Mostly the rank and file are SWPL liberals, though unsurprisingly more pro-Israel. (But not absolutely\u2013look at J Street.)<\/p>\n

In Europe, I think things are changing, but there is no large Muslim population to scare people here. It\u2019s kind of ironic since the right wing really did kill a lot of Jews in Europe and hasn\u2019t done much damage on this side of the pond. (Leo Frank\u2013maybe?) Of course, over there avoiding antisemitism is a nice way to put some air between you and the Nazis, who really f***ed things up.<\/p>\n

* Everyone knows that Pollard was doing it primarily for the money but but he has wrapped himself in the Israeli flag for decades and he has rabid supporters in Israel naming streets after him (or trying to) so, yeah, dual loyalty.<\/p>\n

I remember when he was arrested some of the people who were most angry at him were Jews, at least in the NYC area. Which is part of why he got such a long sentence.<\/p>\n

I realize that Pollard didn\u2019t do as much damage as Ames or Hanssen, but I also find the various apologia on his behalf distasteful. He will be sent to Israel soon enough; they have already given him citizenship and are also apparently offering him a pension for the rest of his life.<\/p>\n

* I used to hold that opinion, but reading the comments at sites like this blog and Radix (the educated Jew-haters) convinced me that hatred of Jews was palatable to a much broader segment of society than I had previously supposed. You\u2019re a half-Jew and so possibly more protected than I am \u2013 the Nazis left the final disposition of half and quarter-Jews in Germany for after the war (though the East European mischlings were targeted for extermination). But if I were you, I\u2019d keep my passport up to date and a packed bag in the closet just in case. What is so sad is that it didn\u2019t have to be this way. If the Jewish community could have controlled its radical social justice warriors and pro-immigration fanatics, there would have been less reason for a backlash against us, not to mention a nicer country in which to live.<\/p>\n

* \u201cGendered Racial Exclusion among White Internet Daters<\/a>.\u201d <\/p>\n

Relevant portion: \u201cSpecifically, we see that whites who identified as Jewish were dropped from the analysis of black exclusion because it was a perfect predictor; that is, all white men and women who identified as Jewish excluded blacks as possible dates; all white women who identified as Jewish also excluded Asian men as possible dates.\u201d<\/p>\n

* While you, personally, may not be \u201cwary of guns in the least,\u201d many, perhaps most, Jewish-Americans are. They are certainly vastly overrepresented in the anti-gun movement. This isn\u2019t about you personally \u2013 it\u2019s about group tendencies. A part of the reason may be that Jews are largely urban and suburban dwellers in the U.S. Another reason might be more in the way of an ingrained culture of fear of \u201cmen on horseback.\u201d I think I am not the only one to think that many urban, elite Jews see, unreasonably in my view, a vast horde of armed \u201cflyover country\u201d Christians as potential \u201ccossacks\u201d on the pogrom in the making. It seems to me many Jews share the idea that a divided \u2013 multicultural, if you will \u2013 gentile population is far safer for Jews than being amidst a monolithic and massive Christian white majority.<\/p>\n

Look, I am someone who is ethnically East Asian who spends most of his free time riding horses and hunting on his West Virginia farm. But that doesn\u2019t mean I am typical of Asians in America. I don\u2019t have a problem accepting reasoned critiques about Asian immigrants in the U.S., toward whom, to be frank, I do not feel any great affinity, and, about whom, in fact, I make some of my own critiques frequently.<\/p>\n

I did not \u201clearn to dislike Jews.\u201d It would be more accurate to say that, as I matured, I no longer saw Jews in an overwhelmingly positive manner as I did in youth. That doesn\u2019t mean I \u201cdislike\u201d Jews. I welcome all Americans of good will (yes, \u201ceven\u201d blacks).<\/p>\n

As a group, Jews are what Amy Chua called \u201ca market-dominant minority\u201d \u2013 one of a different religion, to boot \u2013 with all that entails. As Michael Barone wrote in \u201cNew Americans,\u201d Jews are always \u201cvoting against the Czar,\u201d which means that, overwhelmingly, they vote against my team in domestic politics.<\/p>\n

Second, I have a high degree of admiration for Sabras (native Israelis), and have told my Sabra friends so. You might be surprised to hear that some of my Israeli colleagues actually have a pretty dim view of American Jews. They told me that they don\u2019t usually criticize the American Jewry in public given the latter\u2019s enormous political and economic importance to the State of Israel. But their private cricism \u2013 shared over many nights of drinks \u2013 seems to be that 1) many American Jews are \u201call talk, no action\u201d types (van Creveld\u2019s \u201cmen without chests\u201d) whom they do not respect; 2) meanwhile some of the overrought ones who made Aliyah and settled in West Bank (Judea\/Samaria) seem to be unhinged people who want to play cowboys and Indians with the Arabs\u2026 unlike many Sabras who have grown up next to ordinary Arabs and want to live in peace with them at some point.<\/p>\n

Third, I did speak to van Creveld at length, but it was about counter-terrorism, which was the reason I spent time in Israel.<\/p>\n

“And what the hell is that long paragraph supposed to mean?”<\/p>\n

I wrote of Jewish fear of, and contempt for, gentiles \u2013 especially non-Jewish whites and Asians earlier, to which you seem to take great offense. But here is a Jewish writer, on a major U.S. newspaper, clearly expressing that anxiety: \u201cWas I, a Jewish-American writer, driven to pique, in part, by a member of a group that threatens Jewish-American cultural domination, just as American Jews once threatened the WASP mandarinate? Well, maybe\u2026 Will the verbal brio and intellectual bent of Jews, their edgy irony and frank super-competitiveness give way to Asian discretion, deference to the community, and gifts for less verbal pursuits like music, science and math? Will things become, as they once were under WASP hegemony, quieter?\u201d<\/p>\n

He seems to view WASPs as a defeated rival group and see Asians as a future rival group, a sentiment that I heard more than once from other Jews in America.<\/p>\n

Your overreaction to my general criticism of Jews as a group, rather than about individuals among them who vary, seems to confirm what I wrote rather than invalidate it. It seems that unless I spoke about Jews in only the most positive terms, a swift reaction of personal attacks is in order. Again, that\u2019s the very point I made earlier when I wrote the following:<\/p>\n

“I don\u2019t think anyone is implying that ALL Jews hate Christians. The sentiment seems to me to be more about the double standard\/hypocrisy now common in the media and mainstream popular culture \u2013 that the accusation of \u201canti-Semitism\u201d is utilized frequently by Jews, true or not, but any critique of ant-gentilism by Jews is immediately denounced as anti-Semitism\/racism\/irrational and ignorant prejudice.”<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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