{"id":8721,"date":"2009-04-17T05:20:37","date_gmt":"2009-04-17T13:20:37","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=8721"},"modified":"2009-04-17T05:22:51","modified_gmt":"2009-04-17T13:22:51","slug":"what-toll-can-holding-conspiracy-theories-take-on-your-relationships","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=8721","title":{"rendered":"What Toll Can Holding Conspiracy Theories Take On Your Relationships?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><A HREF=\"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=8680\">I met Zan Overall outside the Oscars<\/a>. He was holding up a sign and protesting Hollywood&#8217;s depiction of the Holocaust.<\/p>\n<p>He emails me:<\/p>\n<p><font face=\"Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif\">Dear Luke, <\/p>\n<p>In an email you asked me: &ldquo;When did you first take on what are often called &ldquo;conspiracy theories&rdquo; and when did you start proselytizing them? And how did this affect your relationships, friendships, social life etc.?&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>Let me answer as briefly and honestly as I can.<\/p>\n<p>My first &ldquo;conspiracy theory&rdquo; experience was an interest in UFOs or &ldquo;flying saucers&rdquo;&nbsp; as they were originally called.&nbsp; I soon came to see that the government was hiding the truth about the phenomenon., as they still do.<\/p>\n<p>Up to that point I had been a good little conformer.&nbsp; Drafted in 1944.&nbsp; Trooped into the post theatre with other recruits to view the mind molding film &ldquo;Why We Fight.&rdquo;&nbsp; Bought the whole story.&nbsp; &ldquo;Hitler was going to take over the whole world!&rdquo;&nbsp; What BS!&nbsp; He didn&rsquo;t even want to fight Britain and France and certainly not the U.S., which had defeated Germany in WW I.&nbsp; Read the book by Pat Buchanan Churchill, Hitler and the Unnecessary War.<\/p>\n<p>When I saw the government covering up the truth about UFO&rsquo;s I lost my innocence and became what they call a &ldquo;conspiracy theorist.&rdquo; <\/p>\n<p>(Here is my definition of the words &ldquo;conspiracy theory: &ldquo;Conspiracy Theory&rdquo; is a demeaning term the power structure applies to a truth it fears.&nbsp; The term is also used by those toadying up to the power structure.<\/p>\n<p>Example: The &ldquo;9\/11 Truth&rdquo; movement has proved that our government, not Muslim terrorists, did 9\/11.&nbsp; The power structure calls that idea a &ldquo;conspiracy theory,&rdquo; hoping to keep the public from learning of the government&rsquo;s guilty role in 9\/11.&nbsp; They fear that the rage they have channeled against Muslims would then be directed at them.&nbsp; They remember Mussolini&rsquo;s lamp post.)<\/p>\n<p>Oddly enough, flying saucers were no surprise to me as they were to the public In that summer of 1947.&nbsp; I had been reading books by Charles Fort and had joined the Fortean Society.&nbsp; In the 1920&rsquo;s and 1930&rsquo;s Fort searched through old newspapers, magazines and scientific journals for odd events unexplainable by and therefore ignored by &ldquo;scientists.&rdquo;&nbsp; Included were reports of apparent craft in the sky long before the invention of airplanes. BTW I am not convinced UFO&rsquo;s come from other planets.<\/p>\n<p>As to the impact of my opinions on UFO&rsquo;s on my relations with others, most people bought the official debunking and would mock my opinion that something unusual was happening.&nbsp; I was pretty much a loner so the opinion of people I considered uninformed didn&rsquo;t bother me.&nbsp; I did try to persuade and inform them as I was doing on Hollywood Blvd. on Oscar Day.<\/p>\n<p>I came to California for a career as a musician and songwriter.&nbsp; I had a song of mine recorded by Stan Kenton.&nbsp; Called &ldquo;Falling.&rdquo;&nbsp; I tried to get more cuts, thinking it would be easy&hellip;&hellip;You might enjoy this. My 4 or 5 year old son would see me at the piano working on songs.&nbsp; One day the songs were not on the piano and I was dressed up and carrying a briefcase. My son asked where I was going and I said &ldquo;I&rsquo;m going into Hollywood to sell my songs.&rdquo;<br \/>\nHis face fell and he asked &ldquo;Don&rsquo;t you want them any more?&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>I became discouraged with songwriting (although I did get a cut on RCA- Victor of a song called &ldquo;Love Has Come, Love Has Gone.&rdquo;).&nbsp; I distracted myself studying UFOs and becoming involved in the silly feuds and controversies within the &ldquo;Ufology&rdquo; community.&nbsp; Mea culpa. That&rsquo;s French.<\/p>\n<p>In the early 1990&rsquo;s I became interested in the crop circle phenomenon and still am.&nbsp; I give talks on the subject, illustrated with slides.&nbsp; It is a true (and beautiful) mystery.&nbsp; Anyone reading this who sees crop circle formations<br \/>\nonly as hoaxes could be dissuaded from that opinion by attending a talk of mine.&nbsp; The same goes with a talk I give on the phony Apollo Missions which got no closer to the Moon than LEO, Low Earth Orbit.&nbsp; I call the talk: &ldquo;Americans Walked on the Moon: Don&rsquo;t Bet On It.&rdquo;<\/p>\n<p>I lost some of the respect of my children and first wife for the time I spent on UFOs. I had a job for twelve years as a photographer at Rocketdyne during that period.&nbsp; I didn&rsquo;t allow my hobbies to keep me from fulfilling my familial duties, nor do I now. Mea non culpa.<\/p>\n<p>I am putting more emphasis on songwriting these days and will attach a song I am pushing now, called &ldquo;Who Is That Old Woman?.&rsquo;&nbsp; Will attach a recording. I am still an activist in two fields, issues I think are important to the country.&nbsp; <\/p>\n<p>(1) The 9\/11 fraud, which has this country engaged in ruinous wars fighting Israel&rsquo;s Muslim enemies for her, all based on a false claim that Muslims did 9\/11.&nbsp; I defended that view earlier.&nbsp; <br \/>\n(2) Debunking the conventional version of the Holocaust.&nbsp; This ever changing lie has this country wrapped around Israel&rsquo;s little finger.<\/p>\n<p>When I say &ldquo;ever changing lie,&rdquo; I am referring to things like: the now abandoned lies about soap and lampshades; the abandoned claim that homicidal gas chambers existed in camps in Germany proper; the retreat to the East with the claim that the gas chambers were really in Poland at Auschwitz (&ldquo;Yeah! That&rsquo;s the ticket!&rdquo;-Jon Lovitz); the dwindling Jewish deaths claimed there (four million down to less than one million) without diminishing the magical &ldquo;six million&rdquo; figure and without triggering a refund of some of the billions extorted from Germany and Austria.&nbsp; Perhaps the check is in the mail.<\/p>\n<p>My present wife agrees with me regarding UFOs, crop circles, Israeli abuse of Palestinians, the Moon hoax and 9\/11 as an inside job.&nbsp; However, she clings to the Holocaust story and will not look at any contrary evidence.&nbsp; We have reached a modus vivendi.&nbsp; We don&rsquo;t discuss the subject.<\/p>\n<p>I hope this answers your question, Luke.&nbsp; As I said earlier, my shortcomings have no bearing on the truth or falsity of any opinion I hold. I am prepared to defend my views. Holocaust revisionists are prepared and eager to debate but no one wants to debate them.&nbsp; That should tell you something.<\/p>\n<p>You asked about my proselytizing. That started as soon as I reached a firm opinion on any controversial subject.&nbsp; I did not &ldquo;hit the streets&rdquo; until I got into the 9\/11 Truth Movement.&nbsp; I like to do one man informational demonstrations. Before the Oscar thing I paraded in front of Bryan Singer&rsquo;s office in Burbank with much the same message: that the current spate of Hitler\/Holocaust movies are propaganda.&nbsp; I recently did a one man demonstration in front of&nbsp; the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, handing out a two page flyer called &ldquo;A 9\/11 Truth Activist Watches the Academy Awards.&rdquo;&nbsp; (I&rsquo;ll attach a copy.) <\/p>\n<p>I have called in to a lot of radio talk shows.&nbsp; Doug McIntyre knows me well.&nbsp; He had me on his late night radio show for a whole night talking &ldquo;conspiracy theories.&rdquo;&nbsp; Dennis Miller knows me well but I am persona non grata there now.<br \/>\nWon&rsquo;t take my calls.<\/p>\n<p>I have no apology for proselytizing or demonstrating.&nbsp; When the presstitutes have blocked contrariant opinions from print and the airwaves, you do what you can.<\/p>\n<p>Both sides proselytize.&nbsp; When Bush or No Change Obama says Muslim terrorists did 9\/11 they are proselytizing.&nbsp; Every time Abe Foxman inveighs against &ldquo;Holocaust Deniers&rdquo; he is proselytizing. Every time a busload of innocent schoolchildren go through the shabby Shoah show at the Museum of Tolerance they are being proselytized.&nbsp; Big time! <\/font><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I met Zan Overall outside the Oscars. He was holding up a sign and protesting Hollywood&#8217;s depiction of the Holocaust. 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