{"id":82598,"date":"2015-12-19T17:56:57","date_gmt":"2015-12-20T01:56:57","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=82598"},"modified":"2015-12-19T17:59:46","modified_gmt":"2015-12-20T01:59:46","slug":"steve-sailer-the-arab-american-flight-from-white-is-it-good-for-the-jews","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=82598","title":{"rendered":"Steve Sailer: The Arab-American Flight from White: Is It Good for the Jews?"},"content":{"rendered":"

Steve Sailer writes: I went looking for recent articles on this subject of the Census Bureau’s experiments with dealing with Arab demands to not be white anymore. Not surprisingly, the most interesting articles I found were in the Jewish press debating whether it would be good for the Jews. From The Forward<\/em>:<\/p>\n

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U.S. Census May Add Controversial ‘Israeli’ Category<\/a><\/p>\n

Debra Nussbaum Cohen (Haaretz)June 19, 2015<\/p>\n

Does being Jewish mean being part of a race? Or a religion? What ethnicity are Jews? Many American Jews have found these questions difficult to answer every 10 years, when a census taker knocks on the door as part of the decennial national head count.<\/p>\n

The only choices: \u201cwhite, black or Asian\u201d for race and, under ethnicity, \u201cHispanic\/Latino\u201d don\u2019t quite fit the way many American Jews \u2013 and others \u2013 see themselves. Religion is not asked about at all, for reasons rooted both in privacy concerns and objections by American Jewry in the years immediately following the Holocaust.<\/p>\n

Now the United States Census Bureau is testing a new category, \u201cMiddle East-North Africa\u201d or MENA, in response to more than three decades of lobbying by Arab American organizations for a designation that better represents them. The testing, to start in September, will refine wording and sub-categories for the 2020 census. Nineteen options will be offered under the MENA designation, among them Israeli and Palestinian, as well as Egyptian, Syrian, Lebanese, Turkish, Iranian, Moroccan and Algerian. Even Sudanese and Somali are being considered.<\/p>\n

\u201cMost Arabs don\u2019t consider themselves white,\u201d said Samer Khalaf, national president of The American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, which has long lobbied for a more accurate label than \u201cwhite.\u201d Khalaf was one of 30 participants in a May 29 meeting convened by the U.S. Census Bureau so that researchers and representatives of MENA communities could discuss and offer feedback on the proposed changes.<\/p>\n

\u201cIt\u2019s a little arrogant for the government to dictate to any citizens what you should be identified as,\u201d Khalaf told Haaretz later. \u201cThe MENA category was a bit of a compromise for us. In a perfect world we\u2019d have an Arab category.\u201d Instead, they agreed to settle on the geography-based MENA designation.<\/p>\n

At least some in the Israeli-American community welcome the addition of a MENA option, though others prefer not to label themselves.<\/p>\n

At a time when notions of race and ethnicity in America, like gender, are increasingly fluid, what will the addition of this category mean for the American Jewish community? If Israelis choose to be identified as part of MENA, will that in any way separate them from American Jews who opt for \u201cwhite?\u201d<\/p>\n

And as the meaning of race is being refracted through the lens of the Rachel Dolezal scandal, after the head of the Spokane, WA NAACP chapter was outed as white, though she long identified as black, will these census changes serve to clarify ethnic identity in America or cloud the issues further?<\/p>\n

… \u201cWe allocate billions of dollars to state and local governments based on these counts,\u201d said Ramirez.<\/p>\n

The last change to the race and ethnicity categories was in 1970, when Hispanic was added as an option to some questionnaires. In 1980 it became part of the form distributed to every household. While the census bureau is testing MENA and other issues under consideration for changes in the 2020 census, ultimately it is up to the White House Office of Management and Budget and the U.S. Congress to approve new classifications, Ramirez said.<\/p>\n

To date, the only way to glean the contours of foreign-born communities has been through a census question asking where respondents were born. But that doesn\u2019t capture people\u2019s real sense of national\/racial\/ethnic identity, particularly when it comes to a country like Israel, where people are often born in other countries and there is a great deal of mobility.<\/p>\n

Oren Heiman, chairperson of Moatza Mekomit, was part of the May 29 census meeting in Washington and is a good illustration of some of the unique challenges of Israeli identity: Born in Cincinnati, Ohio, he moved to Israel at the age of 9, where he lived in Herziliya until age 30. Now an attorney in New York, Heiman has lived here for many years and is returning shortly to Israel with his wife and infant daughter. Since he previously answered American-born, until now he would not have been counted by the U.S. government as Israeli, though it is very much the way he identifies himself.<\/p>\n

\u201cHow do you count people who deem themselves Israeli, have Israeli citizenship, did the military, speak Hebrew at home and children who have both parents Israeli? Now if you have a MENA category, with Israeli in a drop-down menu, they can,\u201d he said in an interview.<\/p>\n

But some Israelis don\u2019t even like the notion of being identified that way on a U.S. Census.<\/p>\n

Ronit Lavi was born in St. Petersburg, Russia, to a Jewish mother and Lithuanian father. She emigrated to Israel alone as a young teenager, becoming religious, and Hebraized her name. Lavi, who is now a physical therapist in Brooklyn and lives in Sheepshead Bay, a heavily Russian-Jewish neighborhood, stayed in Israel for 16 years. Blond and with a fair complexion, she was catcalled by Israeli men and teenagers when she lived in Jerusalem. …<\/p>\n

The addition of new census categories will be good for the Jews beyond Israeli Americans, said demographer Steven M. Cohen.<\/p>\n

In America, with its \u201cmelting pot\u201d orientation, Jews assimilate more rapidly than do fellow tribe members in Canada, Great Britain or Australia, which have smaller Jewish populations but cultures more sympathetic to the perpetuation of ethnic group ties, Cohen said.<\/p>\n

\u201cBeing unwelcoming of the perpetuation of ethnic identity actually speeds up Jewish assimilation,\u201d he told Haaretz. \u201cJews have an interest in an America which is more vividly Hispanic, Hindu, Muslim and Middle Eastern. This would be a small blow in favor of recognizing ethnic variation in America, which in the long run will survive as a distinct ethnic group.\u201d<\/p>\n

\u201cAnything that fosters ethnic identity in America actually helps Jewish continuity,\u201d he said. \u201cIt makes the culture more empathetic to perpetuation of ethnic group ties.\u201d<\/p>\n

In Jewish population studies most, though far from all, American Jews say they are Jewish by religion. And no race\/ethnicity category, by itself, can fully reflect the truth of what it means to be Jewish.<\/p>\n

\u201cFaced with a census form and the mental images of a white Anglo-Saxon Protestant, a black Baptist, a Korean Buddhist or a Hispanic Catholic, white, black, Asian and Sephardi Jews might have some conflicted feelings,\u201d said Rabbi Avi Shafran, a spokesman for Agudath Israel of America, in an email. \u201cWhile Judaism is a religion, the Jewish people is a people. Peoplehood, at least Jewish peoplehood, transcends ethnicity and race.\u201d<\/p>\n

The last time the federal government asked about religion was 1957, said Alan Cooperman, director of religion research at the Pew Research Center, in a population survey rather than decennial census. Subsequently \u201cthere was a debate and a number of religious groups and civil liberties groups asked that the census not ask about religion, as a violation of church and state or intrusion on privacy.\u201d<\/p>\n

Concepts of race and ethnicity have a complicated, terrible history for Jews, and American Jewish organizations were among those opposed to census questions about religion….<\/p>\n

Yet \u201cthere was a time when Jews referred to themselves as the Hebrew race,\u201d noted Kelner.<\/p>\n

\u201cAmerican Jews want to maintain a distinct identity and on the other hand want to be fully integrated into broader society and don\u2019t want the distinctiveness to come at a price,\u201d Kelner said. \u201cBeing marked on the census as Jewish gives you more information. It affirms the difference. Maybe it will have some type of legal consequences and benefits. But on the other hand, it goes against a century-plus of how American Jews have managed that tension.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Comments:<\/p>\n

* Steve, why exactly do you want Indians and Arabs to be classified as white? In what context are we thought of as white? For example, if immigration were entirely restricted to Arabs and Indians, would your fellow travelers suddenly stop worrying about whites becoming a minority?<\/p>\n

As to your concern about \u201cflight from white\u201d for benefits, couple of points:
\n1) the government and the media already have no trouble at all distinguishing between Asians and underrepresented minorities (URM or NAM, as your readers call them).
\n2) I\u2019m pretty sure discrimination or disparate impact can be decided on national origin too, not just race. If Russians were heavily discriminated against or badly underrepresented, I\u2019m fairly sure the government can address it without requiring them to identity as non-white. Same for Arabs.<\/p>\n

This drive to get a MENA category is likely motivated by the same impulse as the drive to get people to use \u201cze\u201d or whatever \u2013 some people are really into the minutiae of asserting identity. I really don\u2019t see why it would affect eligibility for benefits.<\/p>\n

* Barring a tiny minority of wealthy indians, primarily from the northwest of the country, no one in India could seriously be considered White.
\nYes, Indians can have some caucasoid facial features, and look more similar to Whites than to Chinese, but that\u2019s akin to classifying Native Americans as East Asians, just because they both have slanted eyes.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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