{"id":7523,"date":"2008-12-10T19:11:02","date_gmt":"2008-12-11T03:11:02","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=7523"},"modified":"2008-12-10T19:42:31","modified_gmt":"2008-12-11T03:42:31","slug":"religion-vs-spirituality","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=7523","title":{"rendered":"Religion Vs Spirituality"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>All videos <a href=\"http:\/\/lukeford.net\/archives\/updates\/081207.htm\">here<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p><embed type=\"application\/x-shockwave-flash\" allowscriptaccess=\"always\" allowfullscreen=\"true\" style=\"width: 400px; height: 326px;\" src=\"http:\/\/video.google.com\/googleplayer.swf?docid=6349839414679620475&amp;hl=en&amp;fs=true\" id=\"VideoPlayback\"><\/embed><\/p>\n<p>Joe emails:<\/p>\n<div><span><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">All of your silly  videos with Gafni were worth watching for his brilliant analysis of religion v.  spirituality.&nbsp; Religion is all about code, it is like the Marines.&nbsp;  <\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><span><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">The Marines fight a  certain way,&nbsp;and they do not play well with others.&nbsp; The Jews are not  like all the other peoples of the world and any other type of service to a god  or other form of lifestyle is somewhat less.&nbsp; It is presumed a priori the  spirit is lifted by the code.&nbsp; To the extent there is a disconnect between  the code and the spirit, the code prevails. There is very little concern for the  condition of the spirit in many forms of Judaism &#8211; the prayer by rote is a major  issue for me &#8211; i just do not get much out of praying the same thing every day,  some days my spirit does not feel like thanking god and i would rather do  something else to take my mind off my problems.&nbsp; It is one of the reasons  that chasisidism is so popular as the spirit is nourished by singing, having odd  rituals, being in a clan that supports you.&nbsp; <\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><span><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">Spirituality is the  kabbalah centre saying fix the world, heal yourself, project positive energy but  observe none of the commandments that do not touch the spirit.&nbsp; Shabbat &#8211;  we do not care if you drive, but you have to come to services to learn about  meditation because it is spirituality.&nbsp; Spirituality is&nbsp;Jeremiah  Wright preaching that Jesus&nbsp;saves and spewing hatred of whites, but all the  while with a&nbsp;gospel choir in the background.&nbsp; For blacks listening to  his lectures, the hatred feeds their spirit and it is part of their  religion.&nbsp; It would be asinine for a black church to be officiated by Rabbi  Muskin lecturing on the finer points of the talmud.&nbsp; It is the&nbsp;truth  and it is what obama said,&nbsp;blacks hate whites and whites hate blacks, but  that is what we have, and we work to fix it.&nbsp;&nbsp;<\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><span><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">The perfect  application of Gafni&#8217;s&nbsp;distiction is environmentalism.&nbsp; There is no  Rabbi in Orthodox Judaism&nbsp;who would approve of breaking the Sabbath to  clean the bay.&nbsp;&nbsp;But&nbsp;many would argue that there is no more  spiritual act than improving nature.&nbsp; And it does not matter that in doing  so you depart from the code because you are being spiritual and good.&nbsp;  There is no judgment made.&nbsp; <\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><span><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">The&nbsp;problem is,  what happens when muslims who feel they are oppressed kill a husband and wife in  the view of their two year old child.&nbsp; A person who is spiritual and does  not make judgments might tolerate that stuff and not frown upon it as it does  not feed his spirit to hate.&nbsp; But the fact is, the code demands you hate  certain people.&nbsp; <\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<div>&nbsp;<\/div>\n<div><span><font face=\"Arial\" size=\"2\">In my mind, the code  is objective and must prevail.&nbsp; Spirituality is not written up in a book  that artscroll can translate and it too dangerous for the human mind.&nbsp; The  third reich was a spiritual experience.&nbsp; That is the problem with  spirituality, not everything that feeds the spirit is right.&nbsp;  <\/font><\/span><\/div>\n<p> Gafni is a total no-op.  Smart but he lives in some type of alternate universe. It is a word I made up a long time ago, someone who is non-operational.  Gafni is a perfect no-op.  The guy studies talmud and is an ilui (prodigy) and has a gift for religion &#8211; you can listen to him and he can spellbind you into being a jew or a rhinoceros.  He then walks just walks away from it.  A no-op.  You are a bit of a no-op.  You have a gift for writing, for talking, for investigating, but you cannot control your immaturity to use those things to satisfy your puerile needs.  I am a no-op too. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>All videos here: Joe emails: All of your silly videos with Gafni were worth watching for his brilliant analysis of religion v. spirituality.&nbsp; Religion is all about code, it is like the Marines.&nbsp; &nbsp; The Marines fight a certain way,&nbsp;and &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=7523\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[65,18,582],"tags":[14669,30626,3069,14670,5441,10513],"class_list":["post-7523","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-gafni","category-orthodoxy","category-spirituality","tag-brilliant-analysis","tag-kabbalah-centre","tag-muskin","tag-peoples-of-the-world","tag-positive-energy","tag-thanking-god"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7523","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=7523"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7523\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=7523"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=7523"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=7523"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}