{"id":72582,"date":"2015-08-12T12:07:07","date_gmt":"2015-08-12T20:07:07","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=72582"},"modified":"2015-08-12T12:07:47","modified_gmt":"2015-08-12T20:07:47","slug":"paul-gottfried-on-the-republican-debate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=72582","title":{"rendered":"Paul Gottfried On The Republican Debate"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.unz.com\/pgottfried\/remembering-last-weeks-debate\/\">Paul writes<\/a>: Cutting to the chase, however, what made the Thursday night spectacle worth watching, in between talking to a relative over the phone, was how the Fox-news team worked to drive Donald Trump out of the race. Ever since the debate the entire Murdoch media apparatus has been claiming that it\u2019s sheer madness to believe that Megyn Kelly and the other question-askers, Bret Baier and Chris Wallace, were out to get the Donald. The ever objective Jonah Goldberg was dragged on to the Fox-Allstars to let us know how truly \u201cbaffled\u201d he is that the Donald could even imagine that he was being set up. If the debate began with the demand for a pledge that none of the candidates would ever think of running as a third party candidate and would automatically support whomever the party nominated for president, that demand was clearly aimed at Trump. And one would have had to be an idiot or like Goldberg, a paid tool of the Murdoch media, not to recognize what had been planned. The Republican establishment and their media friends have been viciously attacking Trump for weeks, and even I was shocked to see Trump referred to as an <a href=\"http:\/\/nypost.com\/2015\/08\/06\/jeb-bush-calls-trump-an-a-hole\/\" onclick=\"javascript:_gaq.push(['_trackEvent','outbound-article','http:\/\/nypost.com']);\">\u201casshole\u201d in the New York Post<\/a> on Friday, in what was supposed to be an epithet used by Jeb Bush to describe him. Apparently Jeb never reached for this obscenity, but the Post went on to explain why its editors considered the description apt in the case of the loud-mouthed xenophobic Trump.<\/p>\n<p><a name=\"_GoBack\"><\/a> To ease the bafflement of Goldberg and the other usual suspects, who were transported by the sterling objectivity of their coworkers and who can\u2019t imagine why anyone in his, her or its right mind would question their impartiality, allow me to offer these alternative opening questions or remarks. Why couldn\u2019t the Fox mavens have asked for starters if any of the panelists believes that the wages of the American working class are being helped by importing ever larger numbers of minimally skilled immigrants from the Third World? What about starting off the show by asking whether panelists who are being funded by Sheldon Adelson believe this has no effect whatsoever in how they understand Middle Eastern politics. I mention these examples in order to suggest that some questions are obviously aimed at putting certain participants in disadvantageous positions before the discussion even begins.<\/p>\n<p>Lest the viewer believes this to have been an accident, one could also cite all the nasty comments and leaning questions that came from Megyn Kelly and her pals that were clearly intended to embarrass Trump or cause him to lose his temper. Bringing up, as Megyn did, that the Donald described Rosie O\u2019Donnell as a \u201cpig\u201d and then calling his comment an affront against all women was more than throwing out a \u201cdifficult question.\u201d It was intended to destroy Trump as a credible candidate, just as the powder puff questions that were directed at Jeb and Rubio were meant to strengthen their candidacy. The justification that one heard from the Murdoch faithful, that Trump got the tough questions because he\u2019s the front-runner would insult the intelligence of a differently abled sea scallop. Jeb, who is the second-place candidate, did not get the same treatment as Trump. He was showered with benign questions, courtesy of FOX. Needless to say, those asking the questions were also doing the bidding of their boss, Rupert Murdoch, who has <a href=\"http:\/\/money.cnn.com\/2015\/08\/04\/media\/donald-trump-rupert-murdoch\/index.html\" onclick=\"javascript:_gaq.push(['_trackEvent','outbound-article','http:\/\/money.cnn.com']);\">described Trump<\/a> as a public embarrassment or worse.<\/p>\n<p>What made the spectacle worth watching, however, was the way Trump responded. He didn\u2019t hold back but also never really lost his temper, until he went on twitter after the debate. If I had been in his place, I might have flown off the handle on prime time. But Trump sounded like the host of his own TV show, \u201cThe Apprentice,\u201d firing an incompetent would-be employee, for example, when he told the beautiful but thoroughly malicious Megyn Kelly that her comment had been grossly unfair.<\/p>\n<p>I was exhilarated when in response to the \u201cfollow-up question\u201d of Megyn, that he had written <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nydailynews.com\/news\/politics\/trump-bashes-rosie-o-donnell-gop-debate-article-1.2317588\" onclick=\"javascript:_gaq.push(['_trackEvent','outbound-article','http:\/\/www.nydailynews.com']);\">insulting things about women other than O\u2019Donnell,<\/a> Trump shrugged his shoulders in utter indifference and flatly denied he was sorry. Even more telling, he made fun of politicians who are constrained by \u201cpolitical correctness,\u201d for which he confessed he had no time. Trump might have been even more effective if he had dealt with the Megyn\u2019s assertion, after she had slimed him, that as a presidential candidate he wouldn\u2019t be able to take on Hillary when she accused him of waging \u201cwar on women.\u201d Trump should have mentioned that Hillary\u2019s husband had said and done worse things to women. Besides, the supersensitive presidential candidates the GOP had been running in recent years had not cut into the feminist vote significantly, and so it might be time to give up on constituencies that aren\u2019t going to vote for a Republican presidential candidate, even in the person of Mr. Mom. Trump should also have had an answer when the hit squad accused him of having changed his views. He should have noted that other panelists, even the ones Megyn was making nice to, had done the same thing: What about Rubio\u2019s or Cruz\u2019s evolving views about immigration (albeit in different directions) or the conversion of some of the other panelists to the practice of gay marriage? Certainly Trump was not the only one on stage last Thursday who had rearranged his political furniture.<\/p>\n<p>Mind, you I am not saying that Trump would make an excellent president or that he has a serious chance of winning the nomination from one of our two institutionalized national parties. All I\u2019m contending is that he and his paid assassins made the debate in Cleveland something more than a \u201csound and fury signifying nothing\u201d spectacle. I like Trump even better for having slammed the weasel-like GOP operative (sorry \u201cpollster\u201d) Frank Luntz for the organization of a post-debate focus group on FOX. Trump was perfectly right to suspect that this minion of the GOP establishment, whom he dared to call a \u201clow class slob\u201d was not exactly a detached scientific observer. Luntz may well have cherry-picked the Trump-haters on the way to providing his supposedly balanced public response. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.breitbart.com\/big-journalism\/2015\/08\/07\/trump-wins-post-debate-spin-blasts-frank-luntz-as-low-class-slob\/\" onclick=\"javascript:_gaq.push(['_trackEvent','outbound-article','http:\/\/www.breitbart.com']);\">The \u201creactions\u201d of Luntz\u2019s peanut gallery<\/a> were rather different from the way over forty percent of the public reacted to Trump\u2019s sometimes crude but refreshingly honest performance.<\/p>\n<p>One final point: If the GOP establishment is afraid that Trump may upset their business by running as a third-party candidate, today\u2019s decision by the organizers of the Red State conference in Atlanta to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.weaselzippers.us\/231117-trump-dumped-from-red-state-event-in-atlanta-for-bullying-megyn-kelly\/\" onclick=\"javascript:_gaq.push(['_trackEvent','outbound-article','http:\/\/www.weaselzippers.us']);\">disinvite him<\/a> as a speaker for having disparaged Megyn Kelly in a post-debate tweet may have been fateful. It may have pushed the Donald in the direction in which he already planned to go. Anyhow that decision is one more proof (do we need any more?) of who really runs our \u201cconservative\u201d party.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Paul writes: Cutting to the chase, however, what made the Thursday night spectacle worth watching, in between talking to a relative over the phone, was how the Fox-news team worked to drive Donald Trump out of the race. 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