{"id":7257,"date":"2008-11-10T19:48:41","date_gmt":"2008-11-11T03:48:41","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=7257"},"modified":"2008-11-10T20:41:09","modified_gmt":"2008-11-11T04:41:09","slug":"bullying-the-prop-8-crowd","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=7257","title":{"rendered":"Bullying The Prop 8 Crowd"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/online.wsj.com\/article\/SB122633847111614227.html\">From the WSJ<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Last week America elected its first black president. But while racism in America  is enormously diminished, it is not dead. Blogger Rod McCullom relays a report  of postelection bigotry at a rally in Los Angeles, described by a reader named  Gregory (quoting verbatim): <\/p>\n<blockquote><p>It was like being at a klan rally except the klansmen were wearing  Abercrombie polos and Birkenstocks. YOU NIGGER, one man shouted at men. If your  people want to call me a FAGGOT, I will call you a nigger. Someone else said  same thing to me on the next block near the temple&#8230;me and my friend were  walking, he is also gay but Korean, and a young WeHo clone said after last night  the niggers better not come to West Hollywood if they knew what was BEST for  them.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>At issue, of course, was Proposition 8, a ballot measure that makes the  traditional definition of marriage part of the California Constitution. Earlier  the state Supreme Court had held that definition unconstitutional and ordered  that localities issue marriage licenses to couples consisting of two men or two  women.<\/p>\n<p>California voters approved Proposition 8, 52% to 48%, even as they were  giving President-elect Obama an overwhelming 61% of the vote. But exit polls  showed a striking divergence in voting patterns between racial and ethnic  groups:<\/p>\n<ul class=\"articleList\">\n<li><span>White Californians <a class=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.cnn.com\/ELECTION\/2008\/results\/polls\/#val=CAP00p1\" target=\"_blank\">backed Obama<\/a>, 52% to 46%. But they <a class=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.cnn.com\/ELECTION\/2008\/results\/polls\/#val=CAI01p1\" target=\"_blank\">voted against Proposition 8<\/a>, 49% to 51%.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span>Blacks supported Obama by 94% to 5%. They <em>supported<\/em>  Proposition 8, 70% to 30%. That is what prompted the Gay KK to come out in the  streets of Los Angeles.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span>Hispanics and Asians alike were more pro-Obama than whites, giving him  74% and 64% respectively. Meanwhile 53% of Hispanics voted for Proposition 8,  while Asians&#8217; vote was the same as whites, with 51% opposed.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span>Overall, however, <a class=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.cnn.com\/ELECTION\/2008\/results\/polls\/#val=CAI01p5\" target=\"_blank\">Obama voters<\/a> were against Proposition 8, 32% to  68%.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>A similar, although less pronounced, pattern also was seen in another ballot  measure, Proposition 4, which would have prohibited performing an abortion on an  unemancipated minor unless her legal guardian or, in some cases, another adult  family member was notified. Proposition 4 was voted down, 48% to 52%, but again  there was an ethnic and racial divergence:<\/p>\n<ul class=\"articleList\">\n<li><span>Whites <a class=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.cnn.com\/ELECTION\/2008\/results\/polls\/#val=CAI02p1\" target=\"_blank\">opposed Proposition 4<\/a>, 45% to 55%.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span>Blacks narrowly supported it, 51% to 49%.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span>Hispanics and Asians supported it by wider margins, with 53% and 57%,  respectively, casting &quot;yes&quot; votes.<\/span><\/li>\n<li><span>Overall, <a class=\"\" href=\"http:\/\/www.cnn.com\/ELECTION\/2008\/results\/polls\/#val=CAI02p5\" target=\"_blank\">Obama voters<\/a> opposed Proposition 4, 32% to  68%.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Obama was the &quot;socially liberal&quot; candidate&#8211;opposed to Proposition 8,  although in the abstract also against same-sex marriage, and extremely  pro-abortion. McCain supported Proposition 8, albeit diffidently, and opposes  abortion.<\/p>\n<p>What the California exit polls suggest is that minorities, and especially  blacks, tend to be considerably more socially conservative than their  presidential votes would lead one to believe. There may be an opportunity for  Republicans here&#8211;especially if proponents of liberal social policies persist in  expressions of outright bigotry.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#0000ff\" size=\"1\" back=\"#fefefe\" style=\"background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);\" ptsize=\"8\" family=\"SANSSERIF\"><strong> The NJG:&nbsp;<\/strong><\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"1\" back=\"#fefefe\" style=\"background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);\" ptsize=\"8\" family=\"SANSSERIF\"> <\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"2\" ptsize=\"10\" family=\"SANSSERIF\">Luke?<br \/>\n<\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#0000ff\" size=\"1\" back=\"#fefefe\" style=\"background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);\" ptsize=\"8\" family=\"SANSSERIF\"><strong> The NJG:&nbsp;<\/strong><\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"1\" back=\"#fefefe\" style=\"background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);\" ptsize=\"8\" family=\"SANSSERIF\"> <\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"2\" ptsize=\"10\" family=\"SANSSERIF\">there&#8217;s another scoop for you<br \/>\n<\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#0000ff\" size=\"1\" back=\"#fefefe\" style=\"background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);\" ptsize=\"8\" family=\"SANSSERIF\"><strong> The NJG:&nbsp;<\/strong><\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"1\" back=\"#fefefe\" style=\"background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);\" ptsize=\"8\" family=\"SANSSERIF\"> <\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"2\" ptsize=\"10\" family=\"SANSSERIF\">the gays are going after a guy named Scott Eckern<br \/>\n<\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#0000ff\" size=\"1\" back=\"#fefefe\" style=\"background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);\" ptsize=\"8\" family=\"SANSSERIF\"><strong> The NJG:&nbsp;<\/strong><\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"1\" back=\"#fefefe\" style=\"background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);\" ptsize=\"8\" family=\"SANSSERIF\"> <\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"2\" ptsize=\"10\" family=\"SANSSERIF\">who gave some money to Yes on 8<br \/>\n<\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#0000ff\" size=\"1\" back=\"#fefefe\" style=\"background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);\" ptsize=\"8\" family=\"SANSSERIF\"><strong> The NJG:&nbsp;<\/strong><\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"1\" back=\"#fefefe\" style=\"background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);\" ptsize=\"8\" family=\"SANSSERIF\"> <\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"2\" ptsize=\"10\" family=\"SANSSERIF\">he is a musical director<br \/>\n<\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#0000ff\" size=\"1\" back=\"#fefefe\" style=\"background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);\" ptsize=\"8\" family=\"SANSSERIF\"><strong> The NJG:&nbsp;<\/strong><\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"1\" back=\"#fefefe\" style=\"background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);\" ptsize=\"8\" family=\"SANSSERIF\"> <\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"2\" ptsize=\"10\" family=\"SANSSERIF\">they&#8217;re trying to get him fired<br \/>\n<\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#0000ff\" size=\"1\" back=\"#fefefe\" style=\"background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);\" ptsize=\"8\" family=\"SANSSERIF\"><strong> The NJG:&nbsp;<\/strong><\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"1\" back=\"#fefefe\" style=\"background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);\" ptsize=\"8\" family=\"SANSSERIF\"> <\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"2\" ptsize=\"10\" family=\"SANSSERIF\">they&#8217;ve already bullied him into giving money to the HRC (gay organization)<br \/>\n<\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#0000ff\" size=\"1\" back=\"#fefefe\" style=\"background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);\" ptsize=\"8\" family=\"SANSSERIF\"><strong> The NJG:&nbsp;<\/strong><\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"1\" back=\"#fefefe\" style=\"background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);\" ptsize=\"8\" family=\"SANSSERIF\"> <\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"2\" ptsize=\"10\" family=\"SANSSERIF\">and he&#8217;s apologized to them<br \/>\n<\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#0000ff\" size=\"1\" back=\"#fefefe\" style=\"background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);\" ptsize=\"8\" family=\"SANSSERIF\"><strong> The NJG:&nbsp;<\/strong><\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"1\" back=\"#fefefe\" style=\"background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);\" ptsize=\"8\" family=\"SANSSERIF\"> <\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"2\" ptsize=\"10\" family=\"SANSSERIF\">it&#8217;s on every gay blog<br \/>\n<\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#0000ff\" size=\"1\" back=\"#fefefe\" style=\"background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);\" ptsize=\"8\" family=\"SANSSERIF\"><strong> The NJG:&nbsp;<\/strong><\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"1\" back=\"#fefefe\" style=\"background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);\" ptsize=\"8\" family=\"SANSSERIF\"> <\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#0000ff\" size=\"2\" ptsize=\"10\" family=\"SANSSERIF\"><a href=\"http:\/\/guydads.blogspot.com\/2008\/11\/california-musical-theatre-artistic.html\">http:\/\/guydads.blogspot.com\/2008\/11\/california-musical-th<\/a><a href=\"http:\/\/guydads.blogspot.com\/2008\/11\/california-musical-theatre-artistic.html\">eatre-artistic.html <\/a><\/font><strong><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#0000ff\" size=\"1\" back=\"#fefefe\" style=\"background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);\" ptsize=\"8\" family=\"SANSSERIF\"><strong> The NJG:&nbsp;<\/strong><\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"1\" back=\"#fefefe\" style=\"background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);\" ptsize=\"8\" family=\"SANSSERIF\"> <\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"2\" ptsize=\"10\" family=\"SANSSERIF\">like that one<br \/>\n<\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#0000ff\" size=\"1\" back=\"#fefefe\" style=\"background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);\" ptsize=\"8\" family=\"SANSSERIF\"><strong> The NJG:&nbsp;<\/strong><\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"1\" back=\"#fefefe\" style=\"background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);\" ptsize=\"8\" family=\"SANSSERIF\"> <\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"2\" ptsize=\"10\" family=\"SANSSERIF\">but they are bullying him<br \/>\n<\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#0000ff\" size=\"1\" back=\"#fefefe\" style=\"background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);\" ptsize=\"8\" family=\"SANSSERIF\"><strong> The NJG:&nbsp;<\/strong><\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"1\" back=\"#fefefe\" style=\"background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);\" 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face=\"Arial\" color=\"#0000ff\" size=\"1\" back=\"#fefefe\" style=\"background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);\" ptsize=\"8\" family=\"SANSSERIF\"><strong> The NJG:&nbsp;<\/strong><\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"1\" back=\"#fefefe\" style=\"background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);\" ptsize=\"8\" family=\"SANSSERIF\"> <\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"2\" ptsize=\"10\" family=\"SANSSERIF\">the gays are going through the list of who gave money to prop 8, which was also published by the SF Chronicle<\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"2\" ptsize=\"10\" family=\"SANSSERIF\"><br \/>\n<\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#0000ff\" size=\"1\" back=\"#fefefe\" style=\"background-color: rgb(254, 254, 254);\" ptsize=\"8\" family=\"SANSSERIF\"><strong> The NJG:&nbsp;<\/strong><\/font><font lang=\"0\" face=\"Arial\" color=\"#000000\" size=\"1\" back=\"#fefefe\" style=\"background-color: rgb(254, 254, 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