{"id":70951,"date":"2015-07-11T20:39:52","date_gmt":"2015-07-12T04:39:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=70951"},"modified":"2023-09-10T12:28:35","modified_gmt":"2023-09-10T20:28:35","slug":"whats-the-purpose-of-non-jews","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=70951","title":{"rendered":"What&#8217;s The Point Of Non-Jews?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I talk to an Orthodox friend who grew up in a traditional Orthodox section of New York.<\/p>\n<p>Luke: &#8220;Have there been any gadolim (great rabbis) who wrote or taught about how non-Jews should organize themselves?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Friend: &#8220;No. Why would a great rabbi waste his time writing about goyim? 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