Chaim Amalek writes: “This is a fast rising issue on the left. Maybe if we could identify their young leaders and send them all on an all expense paid trip to Israel, including a stay at a secular kibbutz, followed up with a quick visit to Egypt or Iraq, they’d be more apt to be friendly to Yidden.”<\/p>\n
Steve Sailer writes<\/a>: Ms. Horwitz is pro-Israel and the Students of Color Coalition is anti-Israel, so she failed to get the endorsement of this identity politics group due to a disagreement over issues.<\/p>\n The Students of Color Coalition\u2019s high crime is, apparently, noticing that strongly Jewish-identified students, like Horwitz, tend to be anti-BDS. Moreover, there\u2019s a lot of resentment on California campuses among non-Jewish student politicians that Jewish student politicians will go off campus to fundraise among Israeli-American millionaires in order to manipulate student elections…<\/p>\n The other hot button getting campus polititics so much national attention all of a sudden is increasing Jewish concern that the ascendant Of Color coalition of the Fringes won\u2019t let Jews join in any reindeer games.<\/p>\n Ms. Horwitz is a little beige in color, so she makes a good test case. Her request for solidarity from the Students of Color Coalition was rejected, in part because she\u2019s so pro-Israel.<\/p>\n The essential question may eventually turn out to be: Are Jews part of the sacralized Fringe or are they part of the demonized Core?<\/p>\n Maybe all this Fringe over Core propaganda will turn out in the long run not to be good for the Jews? Perhaps more centrist Jews will start to worry about this mindset they\u2019ve nurtured?<\/p>\n Unfortunately, the more likely effect of these trends is for Jewish spokespersons to double down on sacralizing the Fringe, just while octupling up on their rightful place as the fringiest of the Fringe.<\/p>\n Comments:<\/p>\n * Who will provide the leaders for the Of Color coalition if it excludes Jews as members?<\/p>\n * The Jewish strategy of playing both sides of the fence simultaneously basically worked when America was Wasp dominated. * Political migration from fringe to core seems inevitable post-Hillary.<\/p>\n The anti-Israel stuff on college campuses isn\u2019t anything new; the friction between Jewish and black Dems has been there for decades; what\u2019s new is the Democratic Party is a lot fringier than it was ~20 years ago.<\/p>\n Win or lose, Hillary looks like the end of the line for all but the furthest left among white men, whether Jewish or not. Unlike in Obama\u2019s case, NAMs won\u2019t have to reach back to a white Dem POTUS\u2019s admin for Washington hands \u2013 they\u2019ll have Susan Rices and Valerie Jarretts.<\/p>\n NAMs will force all but the most self-abdignating core types out and, having already won the culture war, those exiled will have fewer qualms about joining the GOP. At that point, the GOP may finally turn against open borders for real.<\/p>\n * Suppose Zionism and Israel didn\u2019t exist.<\/p>\n Jews could use diversity to divide-and-rule the gentiles, and that would be that.<\/p>\n But because the Israeli-Palestinian problem exists, Jews are in a bind because they appear right-wing and \u2018racist\u2019 over there.<\/p>\n Other than that, this \u2018diversity\u2019 thing is not about \u2018people of color\u2019 liking or not liking Jews. BDS is an exception because the nature of Zionist imperialism is so strong and because Israel has become associated with the GOP.<\/p>\n If Jews solve the crisis in Israel, the BDS issue will fade.<\/p>\n If not, it will fester.<\/p>\n But apart from Israel\u2019s occupation, there is nothing to bring non-white students together against Jews.<\/p>\n * Realistically, how will openly supporting BDS affect these college kids\u2019 future job prospects? Can you foresee an outspoken network of BDS supporters rich enough to attract new members without dooming them to lifelong outsider status? Is there any prospect of a mainstream movie or tv show including a sympathetic character who supports BDS, anytime soon? <\/p>\n * Jews still look pretty white to everyone who isn\u2019t white. They\u2019ll view Jews as yet another type of white (in many cases, a particularly wealthy and hence odious type).<\/p>\n And \u2018solve the crisis in Israel\u2019? That\u2019s not happening anytime soon.<\/p>\n Probably Israel will continue hemorrhaging support as America gets less white and eventually be forced to \u2018integrate\u2019 a la South Africa, after which the Palestinians will slowly kill or drive out the remaining Jews, and the Jewish state will end.<\/p>\n * It\u2019ll be \u201cfringe,\u201d if it\u2019s Jews both asking and answering. They benefit too much from promoting themselves as \u201cfringe\u201d to give it up (and some would say there is no Jewish identity in the West except as a fringe).<\/p>\n They may (continue to) inflate a \u201cfalse core\u201d politics that primarily serves Jewish interests (putting the \u2018Judeo\u2019 in front of \u2018Christian,\u2019 so to speak) while commandeering a system nothing but harmful to the dupes riding along with it. I.e., business as usual.<\/p>\n Jews don\u2019t have the numbers to see themselves as a \u201ccore\u201d ethnic-cultural-religious bloc anywhere in the USA, excepting possibly Greater New York City. Doing so across the USA itself would subsume them into Christian White America. They are, and they know they are, a (hostile) elite. So \u2014 If things start going agonizingly sour for the USA, the Jews will move on\u2026to another host country. It\u2019s a story we\u2019ve seen before.<\/p>\n Defacto political-cultural alliance between Jews and East Asians for leadership of the USA or its successor states is another possible scenario. This is in the longer run, say in the latter half of the present century and into the 2100s. Dr. MacDonald posits such a future Jewish-EastAsian elite. Take Amy Chua\u2019s daughters (her husband is a Jew). The daughters are hardcore Zionists and essentially Jewish racialists and nationalists despite their half-Chinese ancestry.<\/p>\n * The Jews have made alliances with various \u2018minority\u2019 groups for the purposes of advancing their own interests. But these groups also have interests of their own, and soon they wont need the Jews any more.<\/p>\n * Maybe students should stick to what they\u2019re there for in the first place and that\u2019s to learn their subject matter. People 18-22 are way too naive and inexperienced to know anything about politics; they haven\u2019t been alive with an adult mentality long enough to know anything beyond feel-good slogans. Young people are easily misled. The destruction of Rhodesia and South Africa is a stain upon history; since it produced such great results let\u2019s then repeat it over and over. Although Israel\u2019s recent fascist-style punitive bombardment of Gaza antagonized many people the world over there\u2019s also the fact that there\u2019s nothing on the Arab side that one can identify with. The Arabs are not bearers of civilization, culture or science so siding with them against Israel makes no sense. Detaching from Israel might be best but siding with the retrograde Arabs against them would be a mistake. Besides, who is really behind this BDS movement? * Political correctness is just one group of white people demonizing another group of white people. When white people are a minority PC will be irrelevant and it will die. Whites, such as many Jewish people, who still cling to political correctness will be shouted down the loudest by non-whites who will be sick of their paternalism and will see how irrelevant they are.<\/p>\n * As a young Jew, I naturally have many young leftist Jewish friends. Most of them (around 70%) are casually leftist. For the most part, they neither care nor think about about politics, and would easily make the transition to the right if it became de-stigmatized and socially acceptable.<\/p>\n However, there is a fraction of leftist Jews who are intensely politically engaged. These Jews are usually the most intelligent ones (the top 10%). You simply cannot imagine how tenaciously they cling to leftist ideology. Its phenomenal. They embrace it with truly religious fervor. In their minds, being Jewish means holding the prescribed, ancestral leftists beliefs. When I gently inform them about the internal contradictions between their leftist ideology and their support of Israel, they go berserk. It triggers an intense emotion and visceral revulsion, defying any rational thought process.<\/p>\n They are not going to make the transition to the right without much pain and possible brain damage.<\/p>\n * Israel controls less territory than it did 50-odd years ago, holds much of the territory it does because Arab forces first tried to destroy it with a military invasion, and then a generation later decided to play chicken games with it. Israel has tried and failed to fob off much of what it currently holds on Arab authorities who do not want it except as a launch pad for\u2026attacks on Israel. That\u2019s \u2018the nature\u2019 of \u2018Zionist imperialism\u2019.<\/p>\n * One thing nobody here seems to realize is that many Jews believe being an outspoken minority is central to their identity itself.<\/p>\n Consider Jews\u2019 sacred text, the Torah: Genesis establishes God\u2019s pattern of dividing things (sacred from common, good from evil, this from that, etc.). Exodus through Deuteronomy iterates on this with God\u2019s chosen nation. A reading of these books of the Torah makes the most sense if you look at it through the lens of \u201chere is a bunch of stuff to make sure God\u2019s chosen nation doesn\u2019t blend in with anyone else.\u201d<\/p>\n In the modern US, where the dominant paradigm is one of core vs. fringe, American Jews automatically figure \u201cWe must be fringe,\u201d and internalize that as part of their identity.<\/p>\n * Are women meant to be mothers? Are men meant to be fathers? Yes.<\/p>\n After all, all girls are born to be daughters, and all boys are born to be sons.<\/p>\n Daughter or son, as child of mother and father, is meant to grow up to be mother or father to create more daughters and sons.<\/p>\n It\u2019s a circle game and goes round and round.<\/p>\n But modern individualism makes us forget that.<\/p>\n And birth control cut off sex from its consequences, thereby making people see it as merely pleasurable activity(like taking drugs) than a pleasurable activity that has meaning in producing life and continuing one\u2019s race.<\/p>\n Food hasn\u2019t yet been cut from its consequences. If you eat too much, you get fat. If you eat too much sugar, you get diabetes. So, we eat for pleasure but also know we must control ourselves. We know food isn\u2019t just for pleasure but for health.<\/p>\n But image if a some drug were invented where you could eat as much of anything you want but then be spared of its consequences. You can have two boxes of donuts, take the pill, and be perfectly healthy and gain no pounds. The meaning of food would be lost, and people would just pig out like loons.<\/p>\n That\u2019s what has happened with sex when the consequences were nixed with birth control and antibiotics that zapped infections like Gonorrhea and Syphilis. * On the one hand, Jews try to pass themselves off as genteel respectable Wasps\u2026<\/p>\n On the other hand, Jews try to pass themselves off as victims of Wasps(especially at opportunity to play golf).<\/p>\n Jews seem to have been both shining and shitting on Waspness.<\/p>\n Waspness has been useful for Jews because of its reputation for honesty, diligence, and all the virtues associated with Northern European folks. I mean which people would you trust your money with? Northern European types\u2026. or Greeks, Italians, Chinese, Mexicans, Negroes, Gypsies, Russians, Argentinians, Dotters, and etc? German-American Jews were eager to merge with Wasp-ness. It had the right kind of reputation and image. It\u2019s true that Wasps had long favored their own. So, Wall Street banks and firms owned by wasps preferred to hire their own kind over other kinds even when the latter got better grades. Among the \u2018others\u2019, only the Jews mattered cuz they\u2019re the only ones who really bested in wasp kids in grades and academics. Anyway, since Wasps and Northern Europeans had developed a reputation around the world as the most honest and trustworthy, Jews sought to be associated with it. It\u2019s like how Belfort named his company \u2018Oakmont\u2019 instead of \u2018Assholopoulous\u2019, \u2018Sleazolini\u2019, \u2018Patel & Gupta\u2019, \u2018Tyrone Jackson Inc\u2019, \u2018Mapache & Gomez Funds\u2019, \u2018Wong and Wong Insurance\u2019, \u2018United Gypsy Investing\u2019, \u2018Tsarnaev Banking\u2019, etc.<\/p>\n As Jews themselves didn\u2019t have the finest reputation in the world in terms of trust, it was useful for Jews to associate themselves with Waspy names and brand. Though Jews have long had a reputation for brains, they were also renowned for the kinds of stuff George Soros pulls all the time. And then, there was Bernie Madoff. One might feel nervous investing in \u2018Finkelschwarz & Kahanowicz Capital\u2019. Not due to lack of ability \u2014 Madoff was no dummy \u2014 but the reputation of some Jews to play it like David Mamet characters.<\/p>\n When Jews were on the rise, they wanted to be seen as waspy, take on the waspy brand, and etc. So, guys like Belfort wanted to use the brand but run it totally ragged. But in doing so, the wasp brand became degraded by bad Jewish behavior. Indeed, whatever worth the Wasp brand once had has been tarnished ever since Jews appropriated it and associated it with mounting financial scandals since the late 80s, the really big one hitting in 2008.<\/p>\n But then, same thing happened to Wasp foreign policy brand. Sure, US foreign policy was always kinda dirty, but if we do comparison and contrast, it still looked better than those of most other nations. US seemed to give a fairer shake than Nazi Germany, imperial Japan, French Empire, Russian\/Soviet empire, and etc.<\/p>\n Though Wasp-ruled US did favor Israel, Carter did try to reach out to all sides. And there were \u2018Arabists\u2019 like James Baker in the GOP who called for balance and fairness. So, US reputation had a certain cachet. Anyway, Jews seem to be somewhat schizo about Waspsness and \u2018white privilege\u2019.<\/p>\n On the one hand, despite all the crap that\u2019s been said about \u2018evil whites\u2019, white gentiles(especially of Northern European extraction) are still the most trusted, admired, and envied people in the world. Ask any third worlder\u2013even the most leftist and anti-white person\u2013where he wants to emigrate to, and it\u2019s some place like US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, etc. They don\u2019t want to emigrate to Nigeria, Russia, Ukraine, China, India, Mexico, Peru, Zimbabwe, South Africa, Venezuela, etc.<\/p>\n Ask any leftist, even the most anti-white person, where he\u2019d rather invest his money, and it\u2019s some company run by northern european types than one run by Negroes, Mexers, dotters, Chinese, Russians, Iranians, etc. Okay, maybe Singaporeans. But other than that, they\u2019d rather put their money with Wasps.<\/p>\n So, the Wasp brand is still better than most in the world. And because of its high value, even Jews want to association with it. But the more Jews exploit it for their own purposes, the Wasp brand goes down, but then so will all that is associated with it. If Jews ruin waspness, they won\u2019t be able to hide behind it for cover.<\/p>\n But then, there is another group of Jews who go out of their way to openly smear, attack, and demean everything related or associated with \u2018waspness\u2019. We saw this in the media attack on Duke Lacrosse and UVA. We see it in so many movies where most of the eeeeeeeeeeeevil CEOs are waspy types.<\/p>\n So, on the one hand, Jews value and want to be associated with the clean Wasp brand, and on the other hand, they want to sully it as \u2018racist\u2019, \u2018privileged\u2019, \u2018oppressive\u2019, and \u2018odious\u2019 as much as possible. Something\u2019s gotta give. You can\u2019t have both.<\/p>\n It\u2019s like expecting to be carried on a boat into which holes are drilled.<\/p>\n * First of all there was a lot of guilt felt by the Jews who were here before the Holocaust \u2013 in truth they did very little to rescue their brothers in Europe. There is the infamous tale of Jan Karski, smuggled out of wartime Poland by the Polish underground at incredible personal risk in order to inform the West of the Holocaust that was then in progress. He went to see Felix Frankfurter, who was then a Supreme Court Justice and the highest placed Jew in the American government and presented him will compelling evidence of the mass murders. Frankfurter told Karski to his face that he didn\u2019t believe him \u2013 basically called him a liar. Really what he was saying was that he COULDN\u2019T believe him because if he believed him he would have to confront Roosevelt over this, whereas Roosevelt (to the extent he palled around with a WASPified Jew such as Frankfurter at all) wanted the conversation kept light \u2013 they could talk about yachting or baseball while drinking martinis. If he believed him, he would have had to set himself on fire on the steps of the Capitol as a symbolic protest or something like that, and he didn\u2019t want to have to do that. It was easier just to call Karski a liar and leave it at that.<\/p>\n Second, that guilt got displaced (in part correctly) on State Dept. WASP types. Supposedly when some (Canadian but it could just as well have been the US) government official was asked how many Jewish refugees they should take, his reply was \u201cone is too many\u201d.<\/p>\n So, America, if you will, this is the Jew\u2019s revenge on you. You could have had 6 million Ashkenazis but you said no and they were consigned to the ashes, so now you will have 60 million Zapotecs and the Jews will sympathize with the immigrants and not with you.<\/p>\n * Let\u2019s just say it\u2019s a big world out there and there are a lot of groups who are less dissimilar to Jews than are, say, the Chinese. Person for person, these groups may not be as good at verbal complaint as Jews, but there are hundreds of millions of them, so their elites are going to get pretty good at it over the next generation.<\/p>\n * American Jews _loved_ the idea of importing blacks claiming to be Jews into Israel.<\/p>\n Israeli Jews, not so much \u2026<\/p>\n * [Re: Amy Chua’s daughter]: The pattern is clear from a review of the Twitter feed. Consider a few more, and also look at the blog kept by one of the girls (one recent post discusses her strong Jewish identity).<\/p>\n More reasons why media simply denouncing Morsi overthrow as coup is sloppy: “Israel urges US not to freeze Egypt aid”<\/p><\/blockquote>\n She thinks when Israel says “jump”, the USA should say “How High?” From this, Jewish Zionist nationalism can be inferred.<\/p>\n i feel conflicted when i see hot blondes getting hw help from nerdy jewish guys. sad genepool will be polluted but happy my ppl will survive<\/p><\/blockquote>\n This is an amazing comment. Although a joke, it does seem to be meant seriously (not “trolling”). It says several things, (1) “My genepool” clearly here means Jews, (2) This is classic “Shiksa” commentary from a Jewish woman’s perspective, (3) An assertion of Jewish superiority in math over “blondes” (which, whether true or not, her assertion of it is an expression of Jewish pride).<\/p>\n Chaim Amalek writes: “This is a fast rising issue on the left. Maybe if we could identify their young leaders and send them all on an all expense paid trip to Israel, including a stay at a secular kibbutz, followed … Continue reading
\nPreviously, they could claim to be both persecuted outsiders whilst being market dominant, in that the groups which they accused of persecution weren\u2019t generally market-dominant, yet comprised the majority and could possibly \u2018turn nasty\u2019 if the circumstances aligned.
\nThese days, that simply just doesn\u2019t wash. The \u2018minorities\u2019 who are now, in fact, the majority don\u2019t have an historic record of persecuting Jews or any \u2018guilt\u2019 on that part, they are \u2018new skin\u2019 in this game with no historical baggage. The dangeris that these groups, or rather their leadership, have the intelligence to pattern recognise and form political blocs.<\/p>\n
\nIt\u2019s about people of color hating on white gentiles and people of color hating one another.
\nThat way, even if diverse gentiles may not like Jews, they are divided among themselves and unable to unify against Jews.<\/p>\n
\nIdentity politics makes the color of your skin your uniform; it\u2019s not the content of your character but the color of your skin that matters.<\/p>\n
\nNow, these advances were good and welcome, but they did have a negative impact in de-meaning-izing sex. They saved our bodies but rotted our souls.<\/p>\n
\nI\u2019d rather put my money in a Wasp bank. Of course, wasps were plenty sneaky and corrupt too, but it\u2019s a matter of compare and contrast. They are still much better than most other groups.<\/p>\n
\nAnd Eastern-European Jews sought to do the same.<\/p>\n
\nEven so, in terms of culture and values, if not ability and talent, the wasp culture was more honest and ethical than the Eastern-European-American Jewish culture.
\nWhile the wasp\u2019s favoring of wasps over more talented Jews was unethical, the chances were that your average wasp was less likely to be a pathological liar and thief than some smart Jewish guy.
\nWe would like to believe that ability and ethics go together, but it\u2019s sometimes the case that the less able are more ethical while the more able are less ethical. Just look at smart Jews who run US foreign policy. Smart yes but what total liars and pathological sharks.<\/p>\n
\nAnd yet, many Jews felt resentment because wasps had the better brand even though Jews had the better brains. Also, if the wasp brand were to maintain its reputation, there had to be certain restraints to greed. And overly ambitious Jews felt hampered and frustrated by that too.<\/p>\n
\nBut then, Jews took over foreign policy and then the only kinds of gentiles allowed were toadies and whores. In time, US foreign policy became totally Judeo-Zio-centric, and its reputation has sunk all around the world. Not only has the reputation of Israel reached an all time low, but even Wasp-American reputation sunk with it as Wasps lost all self-confidence and decided merely to play whore to Jewish power.<\/p>\n