{"id":5880,"date":"2008-10-05T16:43:35","date_gmt":"2008-10-06T00:43:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=5880"},"modified":"2008-10-05T16:48:19","modified_gmt":"2008-10-06T00:48:19","slug":"ou-certifies-toilet-bowl-cleaner-as-kosher","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=5880","title":{"rendered":"OU Certifies Toilet Bowl Cleaner As Kosher"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I am greatly relieved as I always enjoyed a cup of this cleaner every morning (it is cheaper than orange juice and more effective in promoting my digestion).<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/seforim.traditiononline.org\/index.cfm\/2008\/8\/12\/Marc-B-Shapiro-A-Tale-of-Two-Lost-Archives\">Professor Marc B. Shapiro blogs<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p><span dir=\"ltr\" id=\"ux9r13\">In a <a href=\"http:\/\/seforim.traditiononline.org\/index.cfm\/2008\/4\/9\/Marc-B-Shapiro--Responses-to-Comments-and-Elaborations-on-Previous-Posts-II\" title=\"previous post\" id=\"rh7i\">previous post<\/a> I showed a picture of the hashgachah given by the OU to toilet bowl cleaner. This led to much discussion, and as I indicated, at a future time I hope to say more about the kashrut industry from a historical perspective.<a name=\"_ftnref1\" href=\"http:\/\/seforim.traditiononline.org\/index.cfm?&amp;startRow=5#_ftn1\" title=\"\" id=\"ux9r14\"><span id=\"ux9r15\" class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span id=\"ux9r17\" class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman';\" id=\"ux9r18\"><font size=\"3\" id=\"eaoz0\">[1]<\/font><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a> I have to thank Stanley Emerson who sent me the following picture.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\" id=\"ux9r19\" class=\"MsoNormal\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div style=\"padding: 1em 0pt; text-align: center;\" id=\"ov8l\"><img decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/docs.google.com\/File?id=ddrxfsjn_186db75rzhc_b\" style=\"width: 320px; height: 1052px;\" id=\"juiz\" alt=\"\" \/><\/div>\n<p id=\"q_ea\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\" id=\"ux9r21\" class=\"MsoNormal\">&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\" id=\"ux9r23\" class=\"MsoNormal\">It is toilet bowl cleaner in Israel that also has a hashgachah. Until Stanley called my attention to this, I was bothered that the kashrut standards in the U.S. had surpassed those of Israel. I am happy to see that this is not the case. (In fact, only in Israel can one buy a package of lettuce with no less than six (!) different hashgachot. See <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ynet.co.il\/articles\/0,7340,L-3586618,00.html\" title=\"here\" id=\"oddx\">here<\/a>)<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\" id=\"ux9r24\" class=\"MsoNormal\">But in all seriousness, I think we must all be happy at the high level of kashrut standards provided by the OU and the other organizations. This, of course, doesn&#8217;t mean that we have to be happy with what has been going on at Agriprocessors. I realize that this is a huge contract, but it was very disappointing to see that the first response of the OU to the numerous Agriprocessors scandals, beginning with the PETA video, has been to circle the wagons and put out the spin. Any changes from the OU only came after public outrage, and if the hashgachah is eventually removed from Agriprocessors, it will once again be due to this outrage. To be sure, we no longer can imagine cases of meat producers locking the mashgiach in the freezer,<a name=\"_ftnref2\" href=\"http:\/\/seforim.traditiononline.org\/index.cfm?&amp;startRow=5#_ftn2\" title=\"\" id=\"ux9r25\"><span id=\"ux9r26\" class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span id=\"ux9r28\" class=\"MsoFootnoteReference\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman';\" id=\"ux9r29\"><font size=\"3\" id=\"eaoz1\">[2]<\/font><\/span><\/span><\/span><\/a> <font size=\"2\" id=\"nis7\"><font face=\"Verdana\" id=\"nis70\"><span style=\"font-family: 'Times New Roman';\" id=\"yl-p\"><font face=\"Verdana\" size=\"2\" id=\"zu2w\">but it does seem<\/font> <font face=\"Verdana\" size=\"2\" id=\"zu2w0\">that the company was being given pretty free reign in areas where the hashgachah could have been using more of its influence. (Let&#8217;s not forget that Agriprocessors needs the OU more than the reverse<\/font><font face=\"Verdana\" size=\"2\" id=\"w:nr\">.)<\/font><\/span> At the very least, we need some competition in the glatt kosher meat business. Agriprocessors has a near monopoly and as we all know, competition is what forces businesses to operate at a higher standard.<br id=\"g2m1\" \/><br \/>\n<\/font><\/font><\/p>\n<p>In fact, the entire glatt kosher &quot;standard&quot; should be done away with and turned into an option for those who wish to be stringent. This has recently been tried in Los Angeles, with the support of local rabbis, but I don&#8217;t know how successful it has been. The only way this can happen on a large scale is if the OU once again starts certifying non-glatt. The masses have been so brainwashed in the last twenty years that they will not eat regular kosher unless it has an OU hashgachah. There is no good reason &ndash; there are reasons, but they aren&#8217;t good &ndash; why the OU does not certify non-glatt. As is the case with the Chief Rabbinate in Israel, the OU should certify both mehadrin (glatt) and non-mehadrin.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I am greatly relieved as I always enjoyed a cup of this cleaner every morning (it is cheaper than orange juice and more effective in promoting my digestion). Professor Marc B. 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