{"id":56582,"date":"2014-08-20T11:52:11","date_gmt":"2014-08-20T19:52:11","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=56582"},"modified":"2014-08-20T11:54:59","modified_gmt":"2014-08-20T19:54:59","slug":"sex-with-non-jewish-women-vs-sex-with-jewish-prostitutes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=56582","title":{"rendered":"Sex With Non-Jewish Women Vs Sex With Jewish Prostitutes"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>An easy way to see a difference between the Jewish and Christian approaches to sex is to contrast the Jewish state of Israel with Christian countries such as the United States when it comes to prostitution. Using a prostitute is not a crime in Israel and is common. In most of the United States, using a prostitute is a crime. <\/p>\n<p>I grew up a conservative Christian and I noticed that among conservative Christians, sexual sins were the biggest sins. I&#8217;ve not encountered that point of view among Orthodox Jews, let alone less religious Jews. <\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ll never forget the Orthodox couple who told me they gave their son for his Bar Mitzvah a copy of Penthouse magazine and a tub of vaseline. <\/p>\n<p><A HREF=\"http:\/\/seforim.blogspot.com\/2014\/08\/the-pew-report-and-orthodox-community.html\">Historian Marc B. Shapiro writes<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p>An Italian list of takkanot from 1418 also speaks&#8230; that Jewish men thought that there was nothing wrong with having sex with non-Jewish women[2]: \u05d4\u05e0\u05e9\u05d9\u05dd \u05d4\u05e0\u05db\u05e8\u05d9\u05d5\u05ea \u05de\u05d5\u05ea\u05e8\u05d5\u05ea \u05d1\u05e2\u05d9\u05e0\u05d9\u05d4\u05dd. The fact that the various moralists speak about this issue shows that it was a real problem. While suggestions were offered to help men overcome sexual temptations, there was a recognition that, as the Talmud, Hullin 11b, states, \u201cThere is no guardian against unchastity,\u201d \u05d0\u05d9\u05df \u05d0\u05e4\u05d5\u05d8\u05e8\u05d5\u05e4\u05d5\u05e1 \u05dc\u05e2\u05e8\u05d9\u05d5\u05ea.<\/p>\n<p>R. Isaac Arama, writing in fifteenth-century Spain, tells us that not only did the Jewish community leaders (\u05e9\u05d5\u05e4\u05d8\u05d9 \u05d9\u05e9\u05e8\u05d0\u05dc) not take prostitution seriously, but in a few (\u05e7\u05e6\u05ea)[8] communities Jewish prostitutes were welcomed and even supported with Jewish communal funds (!).[9] This was done as the prostitutes were thought to be performing a public service, since without them it was thought that men would be led to have sex with married women or non-Jewish women (which as mentioned already could lead to execution). From a responsum of R. Judah ben Asher,[10] we see that even in an earlier era this point had been made with regard to \u201cloose women\u201d (and was rejected by R. Judah who thought it was better to have sex with a non-Jewish woman for whom the niddah prohibition did not apply).<\/p>\n<p>Arama tells us that on different occasions he argued with the communal leaders, and also before \u05d2\u05d3\u05d5\u05dc\u05d9\u05d4\u05dd which I assume means their rabbis, that it is one thing if someone commits a sin in private. In such a case, Arama would probably agree that it would be better for a man to have sex with a Jewish prostitute than with a with a non-Jew. (It must be that these prostitutes went to the mikveh, as Arama doesn\u2019t mention anything about the niddah prohibition.) But Arama is firm that it is absolutely forbidden for the community \u2013 and he includes in this \u05d1\u05ea\u05d9 \u05d3\u05d9\u05e0\u05d9\u05d4\u05dd showing that the rabbis were complicit \u2013 to countenance any sin whatsoever, in this case welcoming in Jewish prostitutes, even if this strict stance leads to people committing greater sins or being executed by the non-Jews.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>An easy way to see a difference between the Jewish and Christian approaches to sex is to contrast the Jewish state of Israel with Christian countries such as the United States when it comes to prostitution. Using a prostitute is &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=56582\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[69,552,28],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-56582","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-marc-b-shapiro","category-prostitution","category-sex"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/56582","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=56582"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/56582\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":56585,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/56582\/revisions\/56585"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=56582"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=56582"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=56582"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}