{"id":5329,"date":"2008-09-23T14:15:36","date_gmt":"2008-09-23T22:15:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=5329"},"modified":"2008-09-23T14:15:36","modified_gmt":"2008-09-23T22:15:36","slug":"dumbocracy-adventures-with-the-loony-left-the-rabid-right-and-other-american-idiots-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=5329","title":{"rendered":"&#8216;Dumbocracy: Adventures with the Loony Left, the Rabid Right, and Other American Idiots&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>You can visit Marty&#8217;s website <a href=\"http:\/\/www.martybeckerman.com\">here<\/a> and check out his new book <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Dumbocracy-Adventures-American-Disinformation-Company\/dp\/1934708062\/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&amp;s=books&amp;qid=1222207721&amp;sr=1-1\">here<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>We did this interview via email:<\/p>\n<p><strong>What did Dr. Steve Edgell do for you?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>In the aftermath of<span style=\"font-style: italic;\"> <\/span><em>Generation S.L.U.T., <\/em>I became a foaming-at-the-mouth right-winger. I can&rsquo;t explain all of the causes behind my transformation, but the hate mail I received from a bunch of leftists had a lot to do with it. I had a reaction to their reaction, and I suddenly felt a connection with anyone who hated the people who hated me.<\/p>\n<p>(In retrospect, the combination of rape jokes and anti-feminist rants was astonishingly stupid, but that&rsquo;s how twenty-year-old boys talk&mdash;and I&rsquo;m not a twenty-year-old boy anymore. I&rsquo;ll have to live with those words forever, which I&rsquo;m not thrilled about, so the best I can do is hope that people understand I&rsquo;ve grown up and mellowed out. I still have a sense of humor, but good lord, I have no idea what I was thinking.)<\/p>\n<p>I started to blindly believe every single GOP talking point, mostly because pissing off liberals made me happy at the time. I freaked a lot of people out&mdash;my friends, family and readers&mdash;with good reason. I put myself into a conservative echo chamber and kept getting more and more intense. I wasn&#8217;t seeing shades of gray; somehow I didn&#8217;t realize there are major differences between moderates, liberals, socialists and communists. You were either a conservative or a Red; I was overwhelmed with hatred for anything remotely progressive, and my new right-wing friends were encouraging this, so I kept going further in that direction.<\/p>\n<p>I remember being <em>angry <\/em>all the time&mdash;at feminists, environmentalists, perceived media bias, gay marriage, antiwar protesters, you name it&mdash;and those resentments were taking over my life. My writing became increasingly overzealous, and I made a lot of comments that still haunt me. I really lost my mind.<\/p>\n<p>Steve Edgell was a psychologist who contacted me in 2004 after reading <em>S.L.U.T. <\/em>He seemed curious about my thoughts, and we started a conversation that lasted for the next year, trading e-mails every day, sometimes talking on the phone, sending books to each other. Over those twelve months he talked me back down to earth.<\/p>\n<p>Edgell had been a conservative at my age as well, but became more liberal as he had more life experience. He slowly but surely planted a seed of doubt in my mind. He didn&#8217;t make me into a screaming leftist by any stretch of the imagination, but he made me analyze the puritanical attitudes I had adopted, and over time I realized how far I had strayed from reality, and how irrationally angry I had become over nonexistent offenses.<\/p>\n<p>Just as I was starting to moderate in early 2005, Edgell died from a heart attack. I never met him, but I dedicated the book to him because I don&#8217;t know if I would have ever come back from that bizarre, fanatical phase without him. I still miss him a lot; in a weird way he understood me better than most of the people I actually &ldquo;know.&rdquo; (In the biblical sense, I mean.)<\/p>\n<p><strong>How long you been with your GF?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Long enough for her to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.martybeckerman.com\/ass.php\" target=\"_blank\">sodomize me<\/a> with a plastic phallus&#8230; but it was for the sake of journalism, not personal pleasure. We never tried it again, I swear!<\/p>\n<p><strong>Anything new in your Jewish journey?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The final chapter of <em>Dumbocracy<\/em> takes me to Jerusalem on a search for God, but I don&#8217;t quite find what I&#8217;m looking for. I spent a week with the ultra-Orthodox, which almost drove me insane, and honestly I&rsquo;ve given up for the time being, which doesn&rsquo;t exactly mean I&rsquo;m an atheist, but I wouldn&rsquo;t say I&rsquo;m religious or spiritual either.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;ve seen enough weird stuff to convince me that some kind of higher intelligence probably exists, but I just can&rsquo;t make myself believe that the Great Mystery cares if I turn off a light during the Sabbath. I want to believe, and I can&#8217;t logically explain some of the coincidences that have happened to me, but I just can&rsquo;t muster any enthusiasm for organized religion. Then again, I don&rsquo;t feel &ldquo;alone&rdquo; on the rare occasions when I pray, so I&#8217;m going to try to live a decent life, not be as much of a jerk as I used to be, and hope that it&#8217;s enough. But I don&#8217;t eat pork, if that&#8217;s what you&#8217;re asking.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What are the biggest differences between Israeli Jews and American Jews?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Israelis have tans, muscles and physical stamina. We have Irritable Bowel Syndrome.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Who are you going to vote for in 2008?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Barack Obama. I used to love McCain&mdash;he was the most centrist politician in the country&mdash;but he completely sold out to the Religious Right. I would have voted for the McCain of 2000 over the Obama of 2008, but McCain lost me when he started palling around with Falwell, Hagee and his other ex-enemies who despise the separation of church and state, which is this country&rsquo;s core founding value.<\/p>\n<p>Right-wingers love to accuse liberals of treason, but nothing drives ultra-conservative theocrats insane like free expression and the pursuit of happiness for anyone besides themselves. (There are certainly leftists who feel the same way&mdash;free speech for me but not for thee&mdash;and it&#8217;s equally disgusting; I bash both sides in <span style=\"font-style: italic;\">Dumbocracy <\/span>for their attacks on the First Amendment.)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Which chapter of this new book are you most proud of and why?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The aforementioned chapter where I look for God; it has an epic quality that&#8217;s unlike anything else I&#8217;ve written. Also the chapter on gay marriage because there is simply no such thing as too many penis jokes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What do you like to think about when you masturbate?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>The reflection in the mirror. (Runner-up answer: Luke Ford.)<\/p>\n<p><strong>Would you write about islam in same way as xtianity and judaism?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>My feeling is that religious moderation is a good thing&mdash;people like Richard Dawkins and Bill Maher are wrong to label all believers as zealots&mdash;but there are obviously extremists from every faith who want to spread their ideologies through violence, and those extremists are equally worthy of condemnation. Some radical leftists, who (justly) can&rsquo;t stand Republican anti-secularism, are for some reason unable to criticize brutal theocrats halfway around the world, which is an absurd hypocrisy. Same B.S., different day.<\/p>\n<p><strong>What percentage of americans would not vote for a black for president?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>According to the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nydailynews.com\/news\/politics\/2008\/09\/22\/2008-09-22_poll_barack_obama_could_lose_six_percent.html\" target=\"_blank\">New York Daily News<\/a>, 6 percent, but Colin Powell or Carol Moseley Braun wouldn&rsquo;t have the problems that Obama is facing, because it&rsquo;s not just race that&rsquo;s hampering him; it&rsquo;s this perceived foreignness due to his name and globe-trotting childhood, and this perception has fostered a huge nubmer of paranoid conspiracy theories. (By the way, did you hear that Sarah Palin cooks halal mooseburgers for Osama bin Laden? I read it in a forwarded e-mail so it must be true.)<\/p>\n<p><strong>You did not touch race in book? Why?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Oh Luke, you know me&#8230; I would never dream of causing any kind of controversy.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>You can visit Marty&#8217;s website here and check out his new book here. We did this interview via email: What did Dr. Steve Edgell do for you? In the aftermath of Generation S.L.U.T., I became a foaming-at-the-mouth right-winger. 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