{"id":45519,"date":"2012-08-03T14:18:28","date_gmt":"2012-08-03T22:18:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=45519"},"modified":"2012-08-03T14:18:28","modified_gmt":"2012-08-03T22:18:28","slug":"spirituality-vs-religion-2","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=45519","title":{"rendered":"Spirituality Vs Religion"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Greg Leake emails: Hi Luke,<br \/>\nto some extent I think I understand the dilemma that you write about.<\/p>\n<p>In a way it reminds me a little of Rabbs feeling that he had to choose between Judaism or a medication regime that might eliminate his compulsive dilemmas.<\/p>\n<p>However, I think you may be turning this whole matter into an unnecessary problem.<\/p>\n<p>I think that we would probably agree that G-d is omnipresent.  G-d is everywhere, from the most distant galaxy to the most intimate part of creation.<\/p>\n<p>As G-d is everywhere, G-d is both &#8220;out there&#8221; and &#8220;in there&#8221; &#8212; because there is no place where G-d is not present.<\/p>\n<p>This being the case, it is only natural that some people find G-d more easily &#8220;out there&#8221; and some find G-d more easily &#8220;in there&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>This whole line of reasoning that causes an inside and an outside is probably spurious, because these categories are simply inventions of the human mind.<\/p>\n<p>(You will recall your interview with Bruce I Kodish, the subject of which was his book Drive Yourself Sane.  And, of course, he is a student of Alfred Korcybski, and the whole view of what is subjective and what is objective is only a conversation for the public sphere.  You probably realize that the entire philosophy of idealism essentially states that the world of our perception is essentially the product of a mental phenomenon&#8230;  which has something to do with why Kant said that we &#8220;cannot know things in themselves.&#8221;)<\/p>\n<p>My suggestion for those who find G-d within themselves is to see if they can also find G-d outside themselves.  Likewise, those who find G-d outside themselves should see if they can locate G-d within.<\/p>\n<p>Sometimes in the study of religion it is pointed out that there is a horizontal and a vertical dimension.<\/p>\n<p>The horizontal dimension is the one we mostly see with our outward forms and cognitions about our religions.<\/p>\n<p>There is also a vertical dimension to religion, which is the dimension of depth, and it is often felt that the dimension of depth is the one passed over.<\/p>\n<p>So anyway, if G-d is omnipresent, there is no real reason why we should be discouraged with the idea that G-d is also within us.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Greg Leake emails: Hi Luke, to some extent I think I understand the dilemma that you write about. In a way it reminds me a little of Rabbs feeling that he had to choose between Judaism or a medication regime &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=45519\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[582],"tags":[29531,29533,29529,29532,18186,29530],"class_list":["post-45519","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-spirituality","tag-distant-galaxy","tag-horizontal-dimension","tag-mental-phenomenon","tag-philosophy-of-idealism","tag-public-sphere","tag-unnecessary-problem"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/45519","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=45519"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/45519\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=45519"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=45519"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=45519"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}