{"id":41967,"date":"2012-03-20T08:33:47","date_gmt":"2012-03-20T16:33:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=41967"},"modified":"2012-03-20T08:47:41","modified_gmt":"2012-03-20T16:47:41","slug":"41967","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=41967","title":{"rendered":"Can You Ask A Question Of A Haredi Rabbi?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In a 2010 lecture on <A HREF=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Avraham_Shapira\">R. Avraham Shapiro<\/a> for <A HREF=\"http:\/\/torahinmotion.org\">Torah in Motion<\/a>, professor <A HREF=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Marc_B._Shapiro\">Marc B. Shapiro<\/a> says: From a journal published in Sivan, 2009. Here&#8217;s something I disagree with. I think it is a negative approach. It&#8217;s a recording of a lecture by <A HREF=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Zvi_Yehuda_Kook\">R. Zvi Yehuda Kook<\/a>. Somebody asked him, what about asking a halachic (Jewish law) question of a haredi rabbi (such as <A HREF=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Yaakov_Yisrael_Kanievsky\">the Steipler<\/a>). Can you ask a haredi rav a question of kashrut? Tzvi Yehuda bangs on the table and says, Haredi ideology means a lack of faith, a lack of appreciation of the era we&#8217;re in and it means a lack of wisdom and you look out for them.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Tzvi Yehuda is saying that when it comes to ideology, we obviously can&#8217;t be led by the haredim but in even purely halachic matters, you can&#8217;t ask them any questions. Their halachic decisions will be based on faulty logic. They&#8217;re not intellectually honest.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It was the haredim who started this shtick. It&#8217;s ahistorical. In a traditional Jewish community, say in Europe, when you had a halachic question, you asked the rav of your community. If you had a different <em>hashkafa<\/em> (worldview) from him, that was irrelevant. <\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The hasidim acted that way also. In almost every city the hasidim lived, the rebbe was not in charge. There was a rav. If they had a halachic question, they went to the rav. They didn&#8217;t regard the rav as their spiritual leader. The rav was a technician and could answer these questions.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The haredim in Israel after WWII, they started this. If you don&#8217;t share their outlook, then you are invalid in all areas.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;This was started by <A HREF=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Samson_Raphael_Hirsch\">Samson Raphael Hirsch<\/a>. He declared that for ideological reasons, a rabbi is declared invalid. That took place in Frankfurt. Because the rav disagreed with Hirsch&#8217;s separatism, his decisions are invalid.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In a 2010 lecture on R. Avraham Shapiro for Torah in Motion, professor Marc B. Shapiro says: From a journal published in Sivan, 2009. Here&#8217;s something I disagree with. I think it is a negative approach. It&#8217;s a recording of &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=41967\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[598,69],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-41967","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-haredi","category-marc-b-shapiro"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41967","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=41967"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41967\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":41975,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/41967\/revisions\/41975"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=41967"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=41967"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=41967"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}