{"id":33034,"date":"2011-05-24T20:40:18","date_gmt":"2011-05-25T04:40:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=33034"},"modified":"2011-05-25T08:58:09","modified_gmt":"2011-05-25T16:58:09","slug":"should-we-celebrate-the-death-of-evil-people","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=33034","title":{"rendered":"Should We Celebrate The Death Of Evil People?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><A HREF=\"http:\/\/www.jewishjournal.com\/dennis_prager\/article\/can_we_celebrate_the_death_of_evil_people_20110524\/\">Dennis Prager writes a magnificent column for the Jewish Journal of Los Angeles<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p>We live in a time very different from any in the past.<\/p>\n<p>As a rule, little changes in basic human responses. For example, it is probably fair to say that throughout human history, just about all decent people have celebrated the death of those human beings understood to be truly evil.<\/p>\n<p>It takes a lot to change such basic human reactions. But over the last generation, a major attempt to do so has been made. And it has somewhat succeeded.<\/p>\n<p>Osama bin Laden, a man whose purpose in life was to inflict death and suffering on as many innocent people as possible \u2014 the more innocent his victims, the greater his achievement \u2014 was finally killed, and much of the Western world\u2019s religious and secular elite has expressed moral annoyance with those who celebrated this death.<\/p>\n<p>The argument is that no person\u2019s death should be celebrated. Therefore celebrations of bin Laden\u2019s death are morally questionable.<\/p>\n<p>Pastor Brian McLaren, named one of Time magazine\u2019s \u201c25 Most Influential Evangelicals in America\u201d in 2005, expressed this view. Reacting to television images of young Americans chanting \u201cUSA! USA!\u201d on the night bin Laden\u2019s death was announced, the pastor wrote, \u201cI can only say that this image does not reflect well on my country. \u2026 Joyfully celebrating the killing of a killer who joyfully celebrated killing carries an irony that I hope will not be lost on us. Are we learning anything, or simply spinning harder in the cycle of violence?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Another example: CNN reported the reaction of an Episcopal priest, Danielle Tumminio, whose Long Island neighborhood lost scores of people in the 9\/11 attacks. When she saw images of Americans celebrating, \u201cMy first reaction was, \u2018I wish I was with them.\u2019 \u2026 My second reaction was, \u2018This is disgusting. We shouldn\u2019t be celebrating the death of anybody.\u2019 It felt gross.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Likewise many Jews, including rabbis, have cited traditional \u2014 though sometimes seemingly conflicting \u2014 Jewish attitudes regarding the death of evildoers.<\/p>\n<p>One frequently cited source is a famous talmudic one: \u201cWhen the Egyptians were drowning in the Sea of Reeds, the angels wanted to sing. But God said to them, \u2018The work of my hands is drowning in the sea, and you want to sing?\u2019 \u201d<\/p>\n<p>Also noted is that at the Passover seder, Jews for centuries have taken drops from their cups of wine as they enumerated the Ten Plagues suffered by Egyptians. The Jews\u2019 joy shall not be unalloyed.<\/p>\n<p>And the biblical Book of Proverbs states, \u201cWhen your enemy falls, do not rejoice, and when he stumbles, let your heart not exult, lest the Lord see and be displeased, and turn His wrath away from him.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>On the other hand, the Talmud also states, \u201cWhen the wicked perish from the world, good comes to the world.\u201d And the Book of Proverbs states, \u201cWhen the wicked perish, there is joyful song.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>So what is one to make of this mixture of sentiments?<\/p>\n<p>I do not see them as contradictory. God may chastise angels for singing at the drowning of the Egyptian army. But God does not chastise Moses and the Children of Israel for singing at the Egyptians\u2019 drowning. People may do so; angels may not.<\/p>\n<p>Secondly, it is one thing to celebrate the fall of one\u2019s personal enemy; it is quite another to celebrate the fall of evil individuals. The two Proverbs citations are not contradictory. The vast majority of our personal enemies are not evil people. Therefore we should not exult at their downfall. And the vast majority of the truly evil are not our personal enemies. Bin Laden was not my personal enemy. He was the enemy of all that is good on earth.<\/p>\n<p>It seems to me that if one does not celebrate the death of a truly evil person, one is not celebrating the triumph of good over evil. I do not see how one can honestly say, \u201cI am thrilled that bin Laden can no longer murder men, women and children, but I do not celebrate his death.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Yes, I know one can argue that bin Laden\u2019s arrest and life imprisonment would have also prevented his murdering anyone else. Indeed, anyone opposed to capital punishment would have to prefer that bin Laden had been captured and tried. But no one could argue that a dead bin Laden is less likely to provoke further terror than a living bin Laden.<\/p>\n<p>Celebrating the death of bin Laden is a moral imperative. The notion that Islamists who celebrated 9\/11 are morally equivalent to Americans who celebrated bin Laden\u2019s death is the product of a morally confused mind. It places the killing of 3,000 innocents on the same moral plane as the killing of the person responsible for those murders.<\/p>\n<p>The British historian Andrew Roberts, whose history of World War II was published last week, has summed up the situation well:<\/p>\n<p>\u201cMy countrymen\u2019s reactions to the death of Osama bin Laden have made me doubt my pride in being British. The foul outpouring of sneering anti-Americanism, legalistic quibbling, and concern for the supposed human rights of our modern Hitler have left me squirming in embarrassment and apology before my American friends. \u2026 Britons utterly refuse to obey the natural instincts of the free-born to celebrate the death of a tyrant. When the Mets-Phillies baseball game erupted into cheers on hearing the wonderful news, or the crowds chanted \u2018USA! USA!\u2019 outside the White House, they were manifesting the finest emotional responses of a great people.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><A HREF=\"http:\/\/www.tikkun.org\/article.php?story=20100128191635437\">DR. MARK KIRSCHBAUM WRITES FOR TIKKUN<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;the BT Sanhedrin 94. states that the king Hizkiyahu merited being the Messiah, but because he did not compose a poem after the miracle of the destruction of Sennacherib&#8217;s army, he lost the chance!&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Hizkiyahyu was about to be overrun by Assyrians, woke up in the morning, found they were all dead, and didn&#8217;t compose a song, and lost his chance to be moshiach. We aren&#8217;t to go overboard, and we are sad for the need for loss of human life in such things, but we rejoice in our salvation and sing. <\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dennis Prager writes a magnificent column for the Jewish Journal of Los Angeles: We live in a time very different from any in the past. As a rule, little changes in basic human responses. 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