{"id":2558,"date":"2008-03-26T17:53:39","date_gmt":"2008-03-27T01:53:39","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=2558"},"modified":"2009-12-14T09:27:26","modified_gmt":"2009-12-14T17:27:26","slug":"does-the-rcc-elevate-or-denigrate-los-angeles","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=2558","title":{"rendered":"Does The RCC Elevate Or Denigrate Los Angeles?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In its present incarnation, the Rabbinical Council of California (RCC) dates back to circa 1985 when Rabbi Avrohom Union came to town.<\/p>\n<p>At that time, the saintly Rabbi Yehuda Bukspan ran kosher certification for many products and places.<\/p>\n<p>So let&#8217;s move our story to 1996.<\/p>\n<p>Rabbi Bukspan oversaw the certification for the bagels in Noah&#8217;s Bagels.<\/p>\n<p>The RCC strong-armed Rabbi Bukspan out of the way and took over his certifying business.<\/p>\n<p>The RCC said they were &quot;elevating the standards of kashrut in Los Angeles.&quot;<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m all for that. Who isn&#8217;t for elevation?<\/p>\n<p>So the RCC told people, &quot;If you use Rabbi Bukspan for kashrut, we can&#8217;t attend your simchas (holy parties).&quot;<\/p>\n<p>So they strong-armed their way in like the Mafia or their holiness permeated Los Angeles, depending on your hashkafa (outlook).<\/p>\n<p>I prefer to look on the bright side of things.<\/p>\n<p>Now there&#8217;s a big battle between the RCC and Rabbi Teichman&#8217;s Kehilla Kosher certification.<\/p>\n<p>If there was a conference for geniuses, Rabbi Teichman would be sitting on the dais while I&#8217;d be in the men&#8217;s room replacing the toilet paper.<\/p>\n<p>So the RCC took over the kashrut certification for Noah&#8217;s Bagels away from Rabbi Yehuda Bukspan in the summer\/fall of 1996 and then took it away from Noah&#8217;s Bagels a year later. Rabbi Bukspan returned to squeeze and certify the bagels.<\/p>\n<p>The RCC had no problem certifying Noah&#8217;s bagels as kosher even though the store was open on Shabbos.<\/p>\n<p>Hey, we&#8217;re taking a buck here. Why get all legalistic when one can make a few bucks certifying kosher bagels, even when they&#8217;re sold on Shabbat.<\/p>\n<p>The RCC and Kehilla Kosher were going to merge back in 1996 but they fought over Noah&#8217;s Bagels and have been bitter enemies ever since.<\/p>\n<p>Oy ve, so much hating over bagels.<\/p>\n<p>In the fall of 1997, Rabbi Mandel from Beth Jacob took over the hashgacha (kosher certification) at the Pico\/Beverlywood store until it closed.<\/p>\n<p>From my <a href=\"http:\/\/yourmoralleader.camstreams.com\/\">live cam chat<\/a> (more than 8000 hits in a month) where all the gedolim of Los Angeles gather:<\/p>\n<p>TheirFormerMoralLeader:&nbsp; What kind of gum does a moral leader choose to chew?<br \/>\nTheirFormerMoralLeader:&nbsp; Does gum in any way affect one&#8217;s ability to lead a moral life?<br \/>\nTheirFormerMoralLeader:&nbsp;&nbsp; Does gum in any way affect one&#8217;s ability to lead a moral life?<br \/>\nTheirFormerMoralLeader:&nbsp; Do you keep kosher?<br \/>\nTheirFormerMoralLeader:&nbsp; Do you keep your hovel kosher?<br \/>\nTheirFormerMoralLeader:&nbsp; Would I have to take my shoes off before I walked into the hovel for it is holy ground?<br \/>\nTheirFormerMoralLeader:&nbsp; Many of my friends disagree with me on this topic, and some of them are certainly brighter than I. My convictions in these few pages, however, were hard won. I did not inherit the doctrine of the Sabbath. I accepted it reluctantly, in the face of pressur<br \/>\nTheirFormerMoralLeader:&nbsp; pressures of culture, church, family, and employment. Many years later when my friend Robert Brinsmead gave up Sabbath observance and wrote at length against it, I reviewed the whole matter and consequently published The Forgotten Day.<br \/>\nTheirFormerMoralLeader:&nbsp; How do I overcome my anti-Sabbatarian tendencies?<br \/>\nTheirFormerMoralLeader:&nbsp; Have you ever felt Sabbatarianly challenged?<br \/>\nTheirFormerMoralLeader:&nbsp; I am in a 13 step program for people who are Sabbatarianly challenged!<br \/>\nEmma:&nbsp; Hey Luke<br \/>\nTheirFormerMoralLeader:&nbsp; We added one step to the traditional 12.<br \/>\nEmma:&nbsp; Luke theres smoke coming from your fingers&#8230;.. lol I dont think ive heard anyone type so fast<br \/>\nEmma:&nbsp; Lol I see<br \/>\nguest777:&nbsp; Luke don&#8217;t forsake us<br \/>\nUser TheirFormerMoralLeader changed their name to Enigmatic.<br \/>\nguest777:&nbsp; your fans await you&#8230;<br \/>\nEnigmatic:&nbsp; What kind of fans?<br \/>\nguest777:&nbsp; losers shoe don&#8217;t have a life<br \/>\nguest777:&nbsp; who<br \/>\nguest777:&nbsp; and can&#8217;t type<br \/>\nEnigmatic:&nbsp; http:\/\/home.nestor.minsk.by\/jazz\/news\/2008\/03\/2102.html<br \/>\nEnigmatic:&nbsp; Luke, here&#8217;s something for your more mature fans.<br \/>\nEnigmatic:&nbsp; Do you, Luke aka Levi, like Jazz?<br \/>\nEnigmatic:&nbsp; Avroham<br \/>\nEnigmatic:&nbsp; at the RCC.<br \/>\nEnigmatic:&nbsp; Maybe&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br \/>\nEnigmatic:&nbsp; just maybe&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;<br \/>\nEnigmatic:&nbsp; Abner Weiss.<br \/>\nEnigmatic:&nbsp; He&#8217;s the most independent and broad-minded rabbi in the city.<br \/>\nEnigmatic:&nbsp; Do you like Jazz?<br \/>\nUser guest783 left the room.<br \/>\nguest777:&nbsp; Lakewood Community Rocked By Non-Jewish Man Posing As Jew<br \/>\nEnigmatic:&nbsp; Does scratching your beard bring Kabbilistic blessings?<br \/>\nYourMoralLeader:&nbsp; whoa?<br \/>\nYourMoralLeader:&nbsp; 777?<br \/>\nguest777:&nbsp; yes master<br \/>\nguest777:&nbsp; do your feet need washing?<br \/>\nYourMoralLeader:&nbsp; welcome khun<br \/>\nEnigmatic:&nbsp; I heard he wasn&#8217;t circumcised.<br \/>\nEmma:&nbsp; Do you like being called master Luke?<br \/>\nKhunDiddy:&nbsp; can&#8217;t stay long&#8230;just dropped by to say hello&#8230;Hello Emma<br \/>\nguest777:&nbsp; beats maturbator<br \/>\nEmma:&nbsp; Hey Diddy<br \/>\nKhunDiddy:&nbsp; Emma have you dropped by the Hovel yet or do you just lust for Luke on the computer?<br \/>\nEmma:&nbsp; Oh alright then MASTERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR<br \/>\nKhunDiddy:&nbsp; He needs to be exoerienced in person to be fully appreciated<br \/>\nKhunDiddy:&nbsp; experienced<br \/>\nguest777:&nbsp; mystery<br \/>\nEmma:&nbsp; lol<br \/>\nKhunDiddy:&nbsp; Emma&nbsp; Give it up..Luke wants you&#8230;you need him<br \/>\nEnigmatic:&nbsp; Could you play the role of a preacher?<br \/>\nEmma:&nbsp; Exactley Diddy<br \/>\nKhunDiddy:&nbsp; She&#8217;s in Ireland?<br \/>\nKhunDiddy:&nbsp; what she doing there?<br \/>\nEmma:&nbsp; I was born here <br \/>\nEnigmatic:&nbsp; Luke, how come you never gave up that foreign accent?<br \/>\nKhunDiddy:&nbsp; too far away&#8230;<br \/>\nEmma:&nbsp; lol!<br \/>\nKhunDiddy:&nbsp; once an Aussie always an Aussie<br \/>\nEnigmatic:&nbsp; Have you ever been confused for a mexican with that accent?<br \/>\nUser guest785 left the room.<br \/>\nEnigmatic:&nbsp; or a Frenchie?<br \/>\nEnigmatic:&nbsp; Italian?<br \/>\nKhunDiddy:&nbsp; although Aussie actors do good American English on films and then change back when they get on <br \/>\nKhunDiddy:&nbsp; Emma give us a few Chorus&#8217; of Tura Lura Lura even though we won&#8217;t be able to hear you&#8230;<br \/>\nKhunDiddy:&nbsp; Emma do you have Red Hair?<br \/>\nKhunDiddy:&nbsp; White White Skin?<br \/>\nYourMoralLeader:&nbsp; welcome master chaim<br \/>\nKhunDiddy:&nbsp; Chaim is here&#8230;Hi Chaim<br \/>\nYourMoralLeader:&nbsp; we&#8217;ve been waiting for you<br \/>\nChaimAmalek:&nbsp; Call me Shmura Matzho<br \/>\nguest777:&nbsp; rise already <br \/>\nKhunDiddy:&nbsp; The poor Jews Eliot Spitzer<br \/>\nChaimAmalek:&nbsp; How are things on the Torah corral?<br \/>\nKhunDiddy:&nbsp; business as usual<br \/>\nguest777:&nbsp; OK?<br \/>\nKhunDiddy:&nbsp; has everyone had their nap today?<br \/>\nChaimAmalek:&nbsp; All Jews named Eliot have problems in life<br \/>\nEnigmatic:&nbsp; I have a Schmura Pecker!<br \/>\nKhunDiddy:&nbsp; Luke did you get a nap in&#8230;40 winks?<br \/>\nguest777:&nbsp; two naps and milk and cookies<br \/>\nUser guest784 left the room.<br \/>\nChaimAmalek:&nbsp; I like this view <br \/>\nChaimAmalek:&nbsp; It looks like a professor&#8217;s study<br \/>\nChaimAmalek:&nbsp; All those books, the unkempt appearance<br \/>\nEnigmatic:&nbsp; Chaim, where are you tonight? New York, Pig&#8217;s knuckle, Iowa&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;where oh where&#8230;&#8230;..<br \/>\nKhunDiddy:&nbsp; the shvartzer who took over has had more Ho&#8217;s than Eliot plus he does drugs<br \/>\nChaimAmalek:&nbsp; I am wherever a Jew is in need.<br \/>\nKhunDiddy:&nbsp; Eliot should have stayed on<br \/>\nUser guest409 (24.250.221.64) entered the room.<br \/>\nChaimAmalek:&nbsp; Wellllll&#8230;..I think he did a whole lot more than boink a whore<br \/>\nKhunDiddy:&nbsp; that rascal<br \/>\nChaimAmalek:&nbsp; Misuse of state police to spy on his political opponents, for starters.<br \/>\nEnigmatic:&nbsp; pigs&#8217; knuckles &#8211; feet or knuckles of hogs used as food; pickled or stewed or jellied<br \/>\nguest777:&nbsp; http:\/\/abcnews.go.com\/2020\/Story?id=4488623&amp;page=1<br \/>\nChaimAmalek:&nbsp; As described in the NY Times, the guy was a nut job<br \/>\nEnigmatic:&nbsp; And&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;.?<br \/>\nKhunDiddy:&nbsp; why not&#8230;he was the Governor&#8230;did he dodge snipers in Bosnia like Hillary?<br \/>\nChaimAmalek:&nbsp; Luke, if you would but eat concentrated protein ie meat, you would free up lots of chewing time for more productive activities<br \/>\nKhunDiddy:&nbsp; stay awhile and watch Luke floss his teeth later&#8230;not to be missed<br \/>\nKhunDiddy:&nbsp; he might be getting ready right now<\/p>\n<p><!--adsense--><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In its present incarnation, the Rabbinical Council of California (RCC) dates back to circa 1985 when Rabbi Avrohom Union came to town. At that time, the saintly Rabbi Yehuda Bukspan ran kosher certification for many products and places. So let&#8217;s &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=2558\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[20405,607],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2558","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-r-avraham-teichman","category-rcc"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2558","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2558"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2558\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":14240,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2558\/revisions\/14240"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2558"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2558"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2558"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}