{"id":1992,"date":"2008-01-15T23:14:14","date_gmt":"2008-01-16T06:02:14","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=1992"},"modified":"2008-01-18T12:21:44","modified_gmt":"2008-01-18T19:09:44","slug":"jewish-big-love","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=1992","title":{"rendered":"Jewish Big Love"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.pilegeshpersonals.com\/\">PilegeshPersonals.com<\/a> is a website that caters polygamous religious Jews.<\/p>\n<p>Most rabbis and most religious Jews would regard this pilegesh stuff as an abomination.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/youtube.com\/watch?v=w9HRJmdqVhI\">Here&#8217;s an amusing YouTube video from Jessi Jaymes<\/a>, a former <a href=\"http:\/\/youtube.com\/profile?user=JessiJaymes13\">Jewish escort living in Reno<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>Ariel emails:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Dear Levi!<\/p>\n<p>Thank you for posting about Jessie&#8217;s video and giving one more  link to the PilegeshPersonals site I have had more visitors and 1 extra man from  Cali and a woman from Toronto signing up since your post.<\/p>\n<p>Here are my  comments about the substance of the post itself:<\/p>\n<p><a title=\"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=1992\" href=\"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=1992\">https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=1992<\/a><br \/>\n<a title=\"http:\/\/www.pilegeshpersonals.com\/\" href=\"http:\/\/www.pilegeshpersonals.com\/\">PilegeshPersonals.com<\/a> is a website  that caters polygamous religious Jews.<br \/>\n1) a. Pilagshut and Pilegesh Personals  is not only about polygamy<br \/>\nsee for example:<br \/>\n<a title=\"http:\/\/pilegesh.blogspot.com\/2007\/10\/confession.html\" href=\"http:\/\/pilegesh.blogspot.com\/2007\/10\/confession.html\">http:\/\/pilegesh.blogspot.com\/2007\/10\/confession.html<\/a><br \/>\nit  is also a way for people to live together if they are unable or unwilling to  commit to marriage for whatever reason.<br \/>\nGaon R. Yaakov Moishe Toledano z&quot;l&nbsp;  explained in his responsa Yam haGadol seif 75 that pilagshut combined with  various legal agreements between man and a woman can be a way to prevent the  possibility for a woman to be left as an aguna ( <a title=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Agunah\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Agunah\">http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Agunah<\/a>  )and should be considred at least for those couples are aware and&nbsp; worry about  unpleasant eventuality.<\/p>\n<p>Also see : <a title=\"http:\/\/pilegesh.blogspot.com\/2006\/10\/there-is-no-mitzvah-to-marry.html\" href=\"http:\/\/pilegesh.blogspot.com\/2006\/10\/there-is-no-mitzvah-to-marry.html\">http:\/\/pilegesh.blogspot.com\/2006\/10\/there-is-no-mitzvah-to-marry.html<\/a><br \/>\n<a title=\"http:\/\/pilegesh.blogspot.com\/2006\/10\/advantages-of-being-pilegesh.html\" href=\"http:\/\/pilegesh.blogspot.com\/2006\/10\/advantages-of-being-pilegesh.html\">http:\/\/pilegesh.blogspot.com\/2006\/10\/advantages-of-being-pilegesh.html<\/a><\/p>\n<p>b.  To say that most rabbis and religiuos Jews&nbsp; truly consider this abomination is  incorrectfor a number of reasons . 1) My information from variuos rabbis  (including rabbinic judges of various cities and spokesmen of various Orthodox  groups is that it is simply a public position that we don&#8217;t do this anymore or  the like&nbsp; many choose to take in particular in countries where the the majority  religion is against this. <br \/>\nOvadia Yosef supports polygamy (see salt lake city  tribune 2001 reprinted here <a title=\"http:\/\/pilegesh.blogspot.com\/2006\/12\/polygamys-practice-stirs-debate-in.html\" href=\"http:\/\/pilegesh.blogspot.com\/2006\/12\/polygamys-practice-stirs-debate-in.html\">http:\/\/pilegesh.blogspot.com\/2006\/12\/polygamys-practice-stirs-debate-in.html<\/a>  ) . R Menashe Klein Ungavar Rov of Borough Park (Eli Weasel&#8217;s mentor) supported  an organization promoting pilagshut in 1997 .<br \/>\nLubavitcher Rebbe writes: <a title=\"http:\/\/pilegesh.blogspot.com\/2006\/12\/lubavitcher-rebbe-on-polygamy.html\" href=\"http:\/\/pilegesh.blogspot.com\/2006\/12\/lubavitcher-rebbe-on-polygamy.html\">http:\/\/pilegesh.blogspot.com\/2006\/12\/lubavitcher-rebbe-on-polygamy.html<\/a><br \/>\nthat  the reason polygamy was baned among the Ashkenazim&nbsp; by rabbeinu Gershom and  Yibum (levirate marriage ) was discouraged among Ashkenazim was because of the  extra difficulties of exile among Edomites (Christians) who according to Rambam  are idol worshippers and concludes the Sicha with prayer for the ability to  observe mitzvot completly with the coming of&nbsp; redemption which clearly implies  that in his opinion pending the elimination of hte potential for persecution  from the gentiles both polygamy should be permited and Yibum should be  encouraged instead of Halitzah.<\/p>\n<p>2)a) I resent the fact that you  tagged the post adultery instead of polygamy. This reminds me of your mentor  demanding that Muslim congressman swear on the New Testiment.<br \/>\nWhy do we have  to pretend that Jewish values are same as Western Christian ones ? R. Emden&nbsp;  (and some othres) mention this too that the reason R. Gershom banned polygamy is  because Christians consider a man with two wives to be commitign &quot;adultery&quot; and  he wanted to prevent extra pogroms bound to result from this being allowed even  if 1 in 10 thousand Jews would do it. <br \/>\nsee <a title=\"http:\/\/pilegesh.blogspot.com\/2007\/01\/halachic-polygamy-in-our-time.html\" href=\"http:\/\/pilegesh.blogspot.com\/2007\/01\/halachic-polygamy-in-our-time.html\">http:\/\/pilegesh.blogspot.com\/2007\/01\/halachic-polygamy-in-our-time.html<\/a><\/p>\n<p>and  <a title=\"http:\/\/pilegesh.blogspot.com\/2006\/12\/lubavitcher-rebbe-on-polygamy.html\" href=\"http:\/\/pilegesh.blogspot.com\/2006\/12\/lubavitcher-rebbe-on-polygamy.html\">http:\/\/pilegesh.blogspot.com\/2006\/12\/lubavitcher-rebbe-on-polygamy.html<\/a><br \/>\nand  <a title=\"http:\/\/pilegesh.blogspot.com\/2006\/10\/rabbi-yaakov-emdens-answer-regarding.html\" href=\"http:\/\/pilegesh.blogspot.com\/2006\/10\/rabbi-yaakov-emdens-answer-regarding.html\">http:\/\/pilegesh.blogspot.com\/2006\/10\/rabbi-yaakov-emdens-answer-regarding.html<\/a><br \/>\nb)<br \/>\nWhen  mans sexual nature is supressed by &quot;Catholic&quot; morality it results in many evils  much worse than negative aspects of pilagshut or polygamy seee my reply to R.  Avi Shafran <a title=\"http:\/\/pilegesh.blogspot.com\/2006\/12\/iso-kosher-concubine.html\" href=\"http:\/\/pilegesh.blogspot.com\/2006\/12\/iso-kosher-concubine.html\">http:\/\/pilegesh.blogspot.com\/2006\/12\/iso-kosher-concubine.html<\/a><br \/>\nand  this applies to rabbis and scholars in particular: <a title=\"http:\/\/photos1.blogger.com\/blogger2\/3563\/4339\/1600\/Page 20.png\" href=\"http:\/\/photos1.blogger.com\/blogger2\/3563\/4339\/1600\/Page%2020.png\">http:\/\/photos1.blogger.com\/blogger2\/3563\/4339\/1600\/Page%2020.png<\/a><br \/>\nsee  also chapter about polygamy from&nbsp; &quot;A Time for Change&quot; by Asher Karen <a title=\"http:\/\/pilegesh.blogspot.com\/2007\/06\/time-for-change.html\" href=\"http:\/\/pilegesh.blogspot.com\/2007\/06\/time-for-change.html\">http:\/\/pilegesh.blogspot.com\/2007\/06\/time-for-change.html<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\n3)  If you look at Jessie&#8217;s YouTube it says &quot;<strong>former<\/strong> escort&quot; : <a title=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/user\/JessiJaymes13\" href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/user\/JessiJaymes13\">http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/user\/JessiJaymes13<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\nPS.&nbsp;  You can improve your <a title=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Search_engine_results_page\" href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Search_engine_results_page\">SERP<\/a>s  rankings for LukeFord.net by going into your WordPress settings and changing 1  little thing how the page urls are displayed .<br \/>\nwhen the title of the post is  used for the subdomain it is much more search engine friendly and ranks higher  like this <br \/>\nhttp:\/\/pilegesh.blogspot.com\/2007\/06\/<strong>time-for-change.html  <\/strong>as opposed to this https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/<strong>?p=1992<\/strong><br \/>\nsee article on  this here <a title=\"http:\/\/www.blogherald.com\/2004\/12\/08\/search-engine-friendly-blog-urls-and-other-word-tricks\/\" href=\"http:\/\/www.blogherald.com\/2004\/12\/08\/search-engine-friendly-blog-urls-and-other-word-tricks\/\">http:\/\/www.blogherald.com\/2004\/12\/08\/search-engine-friendly-blog-urls-and-other-word-tricks\/<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><!--adsense--><\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>PilegeshPersonals.com is a website that caters polygamous religious Jews. Most rabbis and most religious Jews would regard this pilegesh stuff as an abomination. Here&#8217;s an amusing YouTube video from Jessi Jaymes, a former Jewish escort living in Reno. Ariel emails: &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=1992\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[225,592,29],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1992","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-adultery","category-articles","category-jews"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1992","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=1992"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1992\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=1992"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=1992"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=1992"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}