{"id":193107,"date":"2026-06-14T17:42:16","date_gmt":"2026-06-15T01:42:16","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=193107"},"modified":"2026-06-14T19:40:16","modified_gmt":"2026-06-15T03:40:16","slug":"nyt-why-virginia-roberts-giuffre-would-not-stop-talking-about-jeffrey-epstein","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=193107","title":{"rendered":"NYT: &#8216;Why Virginia Roberts Giuffre Would Not Stop Talking About Jeffrey Epstein&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><A HREF=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/10\/19\/opinion\/epstein-survivor-trauma.html\">Amy Wallace writes for The New York Times Oct. 19, 2025<\/a>: <\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Since 2011, when Ms. Giuffre publicly accused Mr. Epstein (she was the first of his victims to forgo anonymity), she repeatedly revealed \u2014 in depositions, lawsuits and interviews \u2014 what was done to her in the hope of preventing others\u2019 suffering. Especially in the years before federal prosecutors indicted Mr. Epstein and Ms. Maxwell, this parade of pain seemed the only way to keep public attention focused on their depravity and that of their associates.<\/p>\n<p>But the constant telling and retelling of her story had consequences for Virginia \u2014 a campaign of intimidation that included death threats and at least one break-in at her family home \u2014 and took a devastating toll on her family, not to mention her well-being&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Six months later Ms. Giuffre died by suicide. She was 41 years old. The immediate, and ultimately unanswerable, question: Why?<\/p>\n<p>But what also lingered for me, amid my immense sadness, were other questions: Why do we, as a society, ask those who have been weakened by abuse to do the heaviest lifting \u2014 not just calling out the predatory schemes of those who abused them, but also testifying and being deposed under oath, as well as sitting for interviews and news conferences?<\/p>\n<p>And why is it that even when survivors do this, so many of us still don\u2019t give them the benefit of the doubt? Instead of requiring the wounded to endlessly recite their worst memories on repeat, why don\u2019t we bear down more forcefully on those they accuse of wrongdoing? Ms. Giuffre pursued justice in civil court and received settlements from Mr. Epstein, Ms. Maxwell and Prince Andrew. But these alone, in Ms. Giuffre\u2019s mind, did not deliver justice.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>If you do anything that harms someone (even if you are right and they terribly wrong), if you make a claim (legal or otherwise) that inflicts damage on others (even if the damage is justly deserved), you will face blowback that may include questions. If you don&#8217;t want blowback, if you do not want to be challenged, do not make a claim. <\/p>\n<p>Nobody is forcing people to make claims.<\/p>\n<p>The things that Giuffre said publicly hurt people. Jeffrey Epstein deserved this harm. Others, such as Alan Dershowitz did not. But deserving has nothing to do with how the world works.<\/p>\n<p>If you are weak and you hurt someone powerful, you will likely lose. If you do not want to be destroyed this way, don&#8217;t pick battles, even if they are righteous battles. <\/p>\n<p>To make a claim that damages a man is to start a contest, and you cannot start the contest and then demand the privileges of the bystander. You wanted the power to wound him with your assertion. The price of that power is that he gets to swing back at the assertion. A claimant who wants to keep the damage and bar the challenge is asking to be the prosecutor and the judge at once, and that is the one seat no honest process hands out.<\/p>\n<p>The true claim invites challenge too, and that is not a flaw, that is the whole point. If your claim is true, the challenge confirms it. If it is false, the challenge exposes it. Either way the challenge is how the world sorts the true wounding claim from the false one, so the claimant who is right has nothing to lose by it and everything to gain. The only claimant who needs immunity from challenge is the one who suspects his claim will not survive it. So the demand do not scrutinize the accuser is not a shield for the wronged. It is a tell. The wronged are vindicated by scrutiny. Only the unsure need sparing from it.<\/p>\n<p>The adversarial system is this rule with a courthouse built around it. You sue, you open yourself to discovery and cross-examination. You plead truth as your defense against libel, which means you accept that you will have to prove the damaging thing you said. The apparatus exists because somebody worked out long ago that the only fair way to let people make wounding claims is to make them defend the claims, and the only fair way to protect the wounded is to let him fight back. Nobody is dragged into the accusation. The man who files chose to file.<\/p>\n<p>The challenge a claimant has to legally accept is challenge to the claim. He started a contest of evidence, not a license for the foul, so when the answer comes back as the threat or the smear or the move to his weakest point, he can still object, because that is no longer a test of what he said, it is punishment for having said it. He owns the risk of being proven wrong. He does not owe anyone the right to ruin him off the merits. <\/p>\n<p>Life, however, usually does not work this way. I wish it did. I want community and society and sanction to protect those who are unjustly hurt. I want to shame bullies. I hate it when I realize that I have been the bully. Sometimes, when I thought I was the good guy, I was really the bad guy. <\/p>\n<p><strong>How Credible Was <A HREF=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Virginia_Giuffre?\">Virginia Giuffre?<\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Grok says June 14, 2026: <\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Virginia Giuffre (n\u00e9e Roberts) was a highly credible victim of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell\u2019s sex trafficking operation on the core facts of her own abuse, but her credibility is more mixed on the full scope of her accusations against other high-profile individuals&#8230;<br \/>\nSpecific expansions of her story have faced documented challenges:<br \/>\nAlan Dershowitz: Giuffre accused him in court filings (2014 onward) of having sex with her multiple times when she was 16. In November 2022, after mutual litigation, she publicly stated she \u201cmay have made a mistake\u201d in identifying him. All related lawsuits were dropped without monetary payment. This is an explicit partial retraction on a major named allegation.<br \/>\nFBI assessment (2019 internal memo, later released): Investigators concluded there was little evidence that Epstein systematically \u201clent out\u201d underage girls to powerful men beyond his own circle. Two other victims contradicted Giuffre\u2019s claims that they had been lent out. The memo criticized her public interviews for including \u201cshifting accounts\u201d and \u201csensationalized if not demonstrably inaccurate characterizations,\u201d including false statements about her interactions with the FBI. Prosecutors noted they could not substantiate the broader trafficking-to-elites narrative she promoted.<br \/>\nPrince Andrew allegations: Giuffre claimed three sexual encounters (London in March 2001, New York, and an orgy on Little St. James). The photo and her consistent identification of the London meeting provide significant support. Andrew settled her 2021 civil lawsuit in February 2022 for an undisclosed sum (widely reported in the millions) plus a donation to her charity, without admitting liability. However, some peripheral details (e.g., claims involving New Mexico in earlier accounts or memoir drafts) have been alleged to conflict with her 2016 deposition testimony, and broader \u201clent out\u201d elements lack strong corroboration. No criminal charges resulted.<br \/>\nOther named individuals: Claims involving figures like Bill Richardson, George Mitchell, Marvin Minsky, Glenn Dubin, etc., were denied and produced no charges or strong independent corroboration. The FBI\u2019s review found limited support for this wider network aspect.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p><A HREF=\"https:\/\/www.newsandsentinel.com\/news\/local-news\/2026\/02\/fbi-concluded-jeffrey-epstein-wasnt-running-a-sex-trafficking-ring-for-powerful-men-files-show\/\">The AP reported Feb. 8, 2026<\/a>: <\/p>\n<blockquote><p>NEW YORK (AP) \u2014 In 2011 and again in 2019, investigators interviewed Virginia Roberts Giuffre, who in lawsuits and news interviews had accused Epstein of arranging for her to have sexual encounters with numerous men, including Britain\u2019s former Prince Andrew.<br \/>\nInvestigators said they confirmed that Giuffre had been sexually abused by Epstein. But other parts of her story were problematic.<br \/>\nTwo other Epstein victims who Giuffre had claimed were also \u201clent out\u201d to powerful men told investigators they had no such experience, prosecutors wrote in a 2019 internal memo.<br \/>\n\u201cNo other victim has described being expressly directed by either Maxwell or Epstein to engage in sexual activity with other men,\u201d the memo said.<br \/>\nGiuffre acknowledged writing a partly fictionalized memoir of her time with Epstein containing descriptions of things that didn\u2019t take place. She had also offered shifting accounts in interviews with investigators, they wrote, and had \u201cengaged in a continuous stream of public interviews about her allegations, many of which have included sensationalized if not demonstrably inaccurate characterizations of her experiences.\u201d Those inaccuracies included false accounts of her interactions with the FBI, they said.\n<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Amy Wallace writes for The New York Times Oct. 19, 2025: Since 2011, when Ms. Giuffre publicly accused Mr. Epstein (she was the first of his victims to forgo anonymity), she repeatedly revealed \u2014 in depositions, lawsuits and interviews \u2014 &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=193107\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[33,20],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-193107","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-abuse","category-journalism"],"aioseo_notices":[],"aioseo_head":"\n\t\t<!-- All in One SEO 4.9.8 - aioseo.com -->\n\t<meta name=\"description\" content=\"Amy Wallace writes for The New York Times Oct. 19, 2025: Since 2011, when Ms. Giuffre publicly accused Mr. Epstein (she was the first of his victims to forgo anonymity), she repeatedly revealed \u2014 in depositions, lawsuits and interviews \u2014 what was done to her in the hope of preventing others\u2019 suffering. 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