{"id":14841,"date":"2009-12-22T15:39:25","date_gmt":"2009-12-22T23:39:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=14841"},"modified":"2009-12-22T17:45:59","modified_gmt":"2009-12-23T01:45:59","slug":"i-sometimes-look-at-women-with-lust","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=14841","title":{"rendered":"I Sometimes Look At Women With Lust"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Not all women, God forbid, just the hotties.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s a struggle. I know it is against the Torah.<\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s what I do to minimize my looking at women with lust:<\/p>\n<p>* I take several cold showers a day<br \/>\n* I daven three times a day<br \/>\n* I say 100 blessings a day<br \/>\n* I study Torah<br \/>\n* I surround myself with Orthodox Jews<br \/>\n* I do yoga<br \/>\n* I keep busy<br \/>\n* I focus on my noble goals of Alexander Technique, investigative journalism, finding a wife, financial abundance<br \/>\n* I immerse myself in literature and think about its lofty ideas<br \/>\n* I don&#8217;t look at porn<br \/>\n* I try not to walk behind women or walk between them or shake their unclean hands<br \/>\n* I watch very little TV<\/p>\n<p><A HREF=\"http:\/\/www.dafyomi.co.il\/azarah\/insites\/az-dt-20.htm\">Report<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p>OPINIONS: The Gemara quotes a Beraisa that relates that once, when Raban Shimon ben Gamliel saw an idolatrous woman who was beautiful, he exclaimed, &#8220;How abundant are Your works, Hashem!&#8221; (Tehilim 104:24). The Gemara later asks how was it permitted for him to look at her? The Torah commands, &#8220;v&#8217;Nishmarta mi&#8217;Kol Davar Ra&#8221; &#8212; &#8220;You shall guard yourself from any evil thing&#8221; (Devarim 23:10); this verse requires a person to protect himself from seeing things (&#8220;Mistakel&#8221;) which later might cause him to have forbidden thoughts. The Gemara answers that the case of Raban Shimon ben Gamliel was different, because it was a case of &#8220;Keren Zavis,&#8221; a corner. RASHI explains that when a person turns a corner, exiting one alley and entering another, he might suddenly cross paths with another person (who is turning the opposite way) and he will not have time to close his eyes. Raban Shimon ben Gamliel did not see the woman approaching and did not have a chance to close his eyes.<\/p>\n<p>What are the parameters of the prohibition against looking at a woman? (See also Insights to Shabbos 149:2, Bava Basra 168:1.)<\/p>\n<p>    (a) The S&#8217;MA (CM 154:14) explains that there is also difference between the act of &#8220;Histaklus&#8221; and the act of &#8220;Re&#8217;iyah.&#8221; &#8220;Histaklus&#8221; refers to seeing by chance, without intention to look at the person or thing. &#8220;Re&#8217;iyah&#8221; refers to intentionally looking at a person or thing. According to the S&#8217;ma, it seems that it is prohibited even to briefly glance at a woman, and one should be careful to avoid situations in which he might need to glance at a woman.<\/p>\n<p>    (b) Many others dispute this view. The BEIS YOSEF (OC 229) writes that the definitions of &#8220;Histaklus&#8221; and &#8220;Re&#8217;iyah&#8221; are the opposite of what the S&#8217;ma writes. The Gemara in Chagigah (16a) explains, according to one opinion, that when the Mishnah there (11b) says that &#8220;anyone who does not have compassion for the honor of his Creator is better off having not been created,&#8221; it is referring to one who looks at a rainbow. The TUR (ibid.) rules that it is prohibited to &#8220;gaze profusely at a rainbow&#8221; (&#8220;Mistakel Bo Harbei&#8221;). The Beis Yosef quotes the AVUDRAHAM who writes that the ROSH was asked how is it permitted to look at a rainbow in order to recite the special blessing for a rainbow if one is not supposed to look at it? The Rosh replied that &#8220;Ro&#8217;eh&#8221; (seeing) is not the same as &#8220;Mistakel&#8221; (gazing, which is prohibited). He describes &#8220;Mistakel&#8221; as an act of continuously and intently looking at the object. According to this, the Gemara here, too, is prohibiting only gazing (&#8220;Mistakel&#8221;) at a woman, but not glancing or looking in passing.<\/p>\n<p>    The MAGEN AVRAHAM (OC 225:20) discusses a similar question regarding looking at an evildoer. The Gemara says that it is prohibited to gaze (&#8220;Mistakel&#8221;) at the face of a Rasha. What does this mean? The Magen Avraham explains that this means that one is not allowed to take a long look, concentrating on his image and figure. One is allowed to &#8220;look&#8221; (&#8220;Ro&#8217;eh&#8221;) in passing at a Rasha, though.<\/p>\n<p><A HREF=\"http:\/\/yourmoralleader.camstreams.com\/\">From my live cam<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p>Amy:  Luke- question.  i was pretty intrigued by your post from the real estate agent in jerusalem<br \/>\nAmy:  Do you plan to do anything about that?<br \/>\nYourMoralLeader:  if the guy does not get paid his commission, i will publish more<br \/>\nAmy:  Looking forward.   I feel bad for the fellow<br \/>\nAmy:  I hope u find a place.  im listening to the arutz 7 interview now.  im waiting for someone to ask u what your view is of the issue of histaklus and how you were \/are able to put that aside<br \/>\nAmy:  or do you still struggle with that?<br \/>\nYourMoralLeader:  I still struggle<br \/>\nYourMoralLeader:  can you guys help me to stop looking at women with lust?<br \/>\nAmy:  do you get looks of disgust while walking down pico robertson?<br \/>\nBeth:  Luke, convert to Islam and move to Saudi Arabia. No more bare female flesh to stir your lust.<br \/>\nAmy:  xxxwatch<br \/>\nAmy:  my bf uses that<br \/>\nguest6:  he went to tiger woods yeshiva gedolah<br \/>\nAmy:  Luke- have u had anyhting to do with rabbi pillichowski?<br \/>\nAmy:  Hows your reaching out to Rabbi topp?<br \/>\nAmy:  you gotta give him more time<br \/>\nguest6:  i hope he doesn&#8217;t slap his members<br \/>\nAmy:  He is\/was very well liked in Woodmere<br \/>\nAmy:  luke- do u ever get invited out for shabbos meals by orthodox friends?<br \/>\nYourMoralLeader:  yes<br \/>\nAmy:  how often do you eat shabbos meals alone<br \/>\nYourMoralLeader:  98% of the time<br \/>\nAmy:  Hes gotta get back on rabbi muskin&#8217;s good side<br \/>\nAmy:  once that happens, hes kosher again<br \/>\nguest9:  its only good to eat alone when you are having cholent<br \/>\nYourMoralLeader:  To get in good with the rabbis, I&#8217;ll have to let them control my blog and publish nothing negative they don&#8217;t approve of, which would emasculate my blog<\/p>\n<p>Amy:  this guy is giving u some seriouis lashon hara mussar<br \/>\nAmy:  do u think u say lashon hara?<br \/>\nguest6:  lushan hara yummy<br \/>\nYourMoralLeader:  hmm<br \/>\nAmy:  yes or no?<br \/>\nYourMoralLeader:  no<br \/>\nBeth:  He does and he knows it but this is not the Rabbis&#8217; problem with Luke.<br \/>\nBeth:  Oh come off it Luke<br \/>\nBeth:  How is it not?<br \/>\nYourMoralLeader:  I&#8217;m exposing and preventing the desecration of God&#8217;s name and protecting the unwary<br \/>\nBeth:  Ok, that is actually a valid argument<br \/>\nAmy:  not really<br \/>\nAmy:  but ok<br \/>\nBeth:  If it is truly out of a place of helpfulness and not just to defame, it is not lason hara<br \/>\nAmy:  its a rationalization<br \/>\nguest6:  if luke were wealthy and donates lots of money to the shul they would leave you alone<br \/>\nBeth:  Not if he really means it<br \/>\nAmy:  but that is what he chooses to do<br \/>\nBeth:  It depends whats in his heart<br \/>\nBeth:  And thats not for anyone but Luke to say<br \/>\nAmy:  i dont agree<br \/>\nAmy:  the torah and its mitzvos are objective<br \/>\nYourMoralLeader:  do you think I publish lots of lashon hara Amy?<br \/>\nguest6:  juicy loshen hora &#8230;just the way i like it<br \/>\nAmy:  Honestly, Im not sure<br \/>\nAmy:  It could be<br \/>\nAmy:  and its my problem for reading it<br \/>\nAmy:  and you might be causing others to sin. but i dont know<br \/>\nguest6:  this should be my biggest sin<br \/>\nYourMoralLeader:  i&#8217;m ambivalent too<br \/>\nAmy:  about sinning?<br \/>\nAmy:  about causing other people to sin?<br \/>\nYourMoralLeader:  about my blogging, causing others to sin etc<br \/>\nguest6:  don&#8217;t flatter yourself<\/p>\n<p>Amy:  Do you blog mostly for the money or b.c you think that you are doing a good service to the world?<br \/>\nAmy:  and have you ever thought about why comments never really took off in your blog as it has on other sensational blogs?<br \/>\nYourMoralLeader:  not for the money<br \/>\nYourMoralLeader:  I think I do good for the world<br \/>\nYourMoralLeader:  it&#8217;s largely out of compulsion<br \/>\nAmy:  maybe.  have u hurt anyone greatly?<br \/>\nYourMoralLeader:  I don&#8217;t want to spend time monitoring comments, time-suck<br \/>\nYourMoralLeader:  an innocent person? rarely<br \/>\nguest6:  he only hurts women emotionally<br \/>\nYourMoralLeader:  6, how do you know?<br \/>\nYourMoralLeader:  you&#8217;ve never given me a chance<br \/>\nguest6:  i know darling i know<br \/>\nYourMoralLeader:  I love too much and too deeply<br \/>\nAmy:  Why do you think that you are having a hard time getting married?<br \/>\nguest6:  and then throw her to the curb<br \/>\nBeth:  He&#8217;s got a Madonna\/Whore complex<br \/>\nBeth:  That&#8217;s my pop psychology contribution for the day<br \/>\nYourMoralLeader:  lack of $$$, oy, my own weaknesses<br \/>\nAmy:  Do you really have no money?<br \/>\nYourMoralLeader:  I&#8217;m mad, bad and dangerous to know<br \/>\nAmy:  how do afford your apt?<br \/>\nguest6:  and he&#8217;s not that great in bed<br \/>\nYourMoralLeader:  i work hard<\/p>\n<p>Khunrum emails: Luke:<\/p>\n<p>Although I don&#8217;t like to preach, this is a special time of the year for Christian and Jew alike. I am appalled at your insensitivity during these, the Holiest dates on the calendar. All we ever hear from you is ME! ME! ME!&#8230;What have you done to cheer up your fellow man this Holiday Season?. My dear wife, a Buddhist, spent a day wrapping presents at Covenant House for those less fortunate than ourselves. Friends will be carving turkeys for the homeless on Christmas day. I&#8217;ve been handing out a few bucks here and there to downtrodden guys I pass whilst riding my bike around town.<\/p>\n<p>Frankly Luke, when I read &#8220;I am back in the spotlight!&#8221; I want to shout &#8220;WHO GIVES A %$#&#038;.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Not all women, God forbid, just the hotties. It&#8217;s a struggle. I know it is against the Torah. 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