{"id":123139,"date":"2018-08-10T12:38:18","date_gmt":"2018-08-10T20:38:18","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=123139"},"modified":"2026-02-08T09:55:41","modified_gmt":"2026-02-08T17:55:41","slug":"the-alt-right-one-year-after-charlottesville","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=123139","title":{"rendered":"THE ALT-RIGHT ONE YEAR AFTER CHARLOTTESVILLE"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><A HREF=\"https:\/\/www.tabletmag.com\/scroll\/268297\/the-alt-right-one-year-after-charlottesville\">Jacob Siegel writes for Tablet<\/a>:<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019ve had two conversations with alt right figurehead Richard Spencer. The first one I initiated a few years ago in the period when Spencer, experiencing his first flush of public recognition, was routinely described as dapper for wearing khakis and loafers. The second happened only a few months ago. He is no longer described as dapper, but then he is rarely mentioned at all these days.<\/p>\n<p>The first conversation was in late 2016 a few months before the election of Donald Trump. We spoke by phone for a story I was writing for Tablet about Spencer\u2019s one time mentor, a cranky paleoconservative intellectual and Brooklyn-born Jew named Paul Gottfried.<\/p>\n<p>At the time the alt right was ascendant and I feared its growth would continue. I\u2019d been interested in the movement since around 2012, when it was mostly unknown and no one viewed it as a viable political force, and I\u2019d seen how far it had come in a short time.<\/p>\n<p>I also thought American society was polarizing and fracturing creating spaces for new, more extreme political movements to grow out of the cracks. Then, a few months after speaking with Spencer and shortly after my story about the origins and nature of the alt right was published, Trump surprised nearly everyone and won the presidency.<\/p>\n<p>Shortly after Trump\u2019s election I went on a popular podcast hosted by some Libertarian friends who had previously compared Spencer to Westboro Baptist Church leader Fred Phelps. They argued that, like Phelps, Spencer was a media phenomenon. The alt right\u2019s power and influence were being inflated, they claimed, by a credulous news establishment hungry for Nazis in headlines, in part to distract from that same establishment\u2019s near total blindness regarding the Trump phenomenon. While agreeing with parts of that analysis, I countered that only a few years before no one had even heard of Spencer and now all of a sudden the President was tweeting alt right memes and appealing to them as an influential opinion bloc. Of course there was a danger of panic and overreaction but at the time, the opposite impulse, failing to take the new movement seriously, seemed to me the more salient risk.<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s what I thought might happen. Spencer and his wing of the alt right, which already had their own think tank and book publisher, would spread their ideas and influence through sympathetic elements in the new Trump administration. I never believed that a large, openly neo Nazi movement had any chance of success in America but a more insidious and cleverly calibrated creep of fascist and racist ideas seemed to me a very real possibility.<\/p>\n<p>Then, one year ago Thursday came Charlottesville and an unexpected turning point for the alt right. The so called \u201cUnit the Right\u201d march in Charlottesville started with a call for various right wing groups to rally in defense of confederate monuments. It ended with a chant of \u201cJews will not replace us!\u201d before descending into violence. A left wing counterprotestor, Heather Heyer, was killed when a man affiliated with the Alt Right drove his car into a crowd.<\/p>\n<p>I\u2019d feared a Spencerite faction of the alt right exercising its power in the shadows through policy papers and DC cocktail hours. Instead, Spencer was chasing headlines and leading groups overrun with phonies, two bit con men and social misfits on tiki torch marches through major American cities. After Charlottesville, the tendency it represented veered towards a cheap nazi burlesque, with people breaking down crying on Youtube videos and outing each other\u2019s real identities while engaging in a series of endless infights. The piece de resistance came when the well-known leader of a white nationalist group, the Traditionalist Worker Party, was arrested and charged with beating up his wife and her stepfather. The stepfather, as Jerry Springer might have scripted, was also co-founder of the white nationalist group.<\/p>\n<p>Now, some of the same people involved in the Unite the Right disaster are planning to rally this weekend in DC, after Charlottesville denied their request for a permit. The overwhelming likelihood is the counter-protestors will outnumber far right attendees by an order of magnitude.<\/p>\n<p>Which brings me to my second conversation with Richard Spencer. I\u2019d been invited to Washington DC this April to give a talk at Georgetown university on the question \u201cIs the Alt Right Over?\u201d About a minute before the event started an organizer approached me and whispered in my ear, \u201cjust so you know, Richard Spencer is in the audience.\u201d I nodded and about thirty seconds later the talk\u2019s moderator asked me the first question and we were off. It was toward the end, during the Q&#038;A, when Spencer, after waiting his turn in line, approached the mie and asked a question..<\/p>\n<p>It was no surprise to hear Spencer publicly acknowledge what a mess the alt right had become. He\u2019d recently cancelled his college tour in the face of significant counter-protests and, in videos on his Youtube channel, had credited Antifa\u2019s tactical effectiveness for dissuading him from organizing future alt right events. But what about white identity politics he asked me? Even if the militant, organized alt right seemed to have imploded, the resurgence of white identity politics was perhaps a larger and more durable force. The truth is I agree with that assessment but I didn\u2019t say so at the time. Instead, I took some digs at him, Not by insulting him personally, just pointing out how pathetic his movement had become. Why speculate about the future, I asked, when we had the recent past and could examine all the sordid spectacle it afforded.<\/p>\n<p>After the talk was over Spencer approached me to follow up with a small group in tow. He stuck out his hand. It stayed there. \u201cYou\u2019ll talk to me but you won\u2019t shake my hand,\u201d he said, indignant. \u201cYes,\u201d I said. He pushed on the question he\u2019d already asked. What about white identity politics as a larger force in American politics?<\/p>\n<p>I don\u2019t have a neat answer to that question, not that I would have given it to him if I did. It was a long day and I wanted to get back to the nice hotel the university people had paid for but the question hung around.<\/p>\n<p>Just this morning a new report was released by the academic George Hawley, one of the country\u2019s most knowledgeable sources on the ideological roots and political morphology of the alt right. In the intro Hawley writes, \u201cThe Alt-Right as a term seems to be declining in popularity, as the movement has suffered a series of setbacks over the last year. Yet the constituency for explicit white identity politics remains.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Whatever shape this politics takes, you\u2019re unlikely to learn much about it from the spectacle this weekend in DC.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jacob Siegel writes for Tablet: I\u2019ve had two conversations with alt right figurehead Richard Spencer. 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