{"id":121936,"date":"2018-05-07T09:31:54","date_gmt":"2018-05-07T17:31:54","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=121936"},"modified":"2023-05-16T15:08:14","modified_gmt":"2023-05-16T23:08:14","slug":"ever-see-an-african-with-a-hobby","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=121936","title":{"rendered":"David Reich’s New Book"},"content":{"rendered":"

Greg Cochran writes about David Reich’s new book<\/a>: <\/p>\n

The people Reich dumps on are saying perfectly reasonable things. He criticizes Henry Harpending for saying that he\u2019d never seen an African with a hobby. Of course, Henry had actually spent time in Africa, and that\u2019s what he\u2019d seen. The implication is that people in Malthusian farming societies \u2013 which Africa was not \u2013 were selected to want to work, even where there was no immediate necessity to do so. Thus hobbies, something like a gerbil running in an exercise wheel.<\/p>\n

He criticized Nicholas Wade, for saying that different races have different dispositions. Wade\u2019s book wasn\u2019t very good, but of course personality varies by race: Darwin certainly thought so. You can see differences at birth. Cover a baby\u2019s nose with a cloth: Chinese and Navajo babies quietly breathe through their mouth, European and African babies fuss and fight.<\/p>\n

Then he attacks Watson, for asking when Reich was going to look at Jewish genetics \u2013 the kind that has led to greater-than-average intelligence. Watson was undoubtedly trying to get a rise out of Reich, but it\u2019s a perfectly reasonable question. Ashkenazi Jews are smarter than the average bear and everybody knows it. Selection is the only possible explanation, and the conditions in the Middle ages \u2013 white-collar job specialization and a high degree of endogamy, were just what the doctor ordered.<\/p>\n

Watson\u2019s a prick, but he\u2019s a great prick, and what he said was correct. Henry was a prince among men, and Nick Wade is a decent guy as well. Reich is totally out of line here: he\u2019s being a dick.<\/p>\n

Now Reich may be trying to burnish his anti-racist credentials, which surely need some renewal after having pointing out that race as colloquially used is pretty reasonable, there\u2019s no reason pops can\u2019t be different, people that said otherwise ( like Lewontin, Gould, Montagu, etc. ) were lying, Aryans conquered Europe and India, while we\u2019re tied to the train tracks with scary genetic results coming straight at us. I don\u2019t care: he\u2019s being a weasel, slandering the dead and abusing the obnoxious old genius who laid the foundations of his field. Reich will also get old someday: perhaps he too will someday lose track of all the nonsense he\u2019s supposed to say, or just stop caring. Maybe he already has\u2026 I\u2019m pretty sure that Reich does not like lying \u2013 which is why he wrote this section of the book (not at all logically necessary for his exposition of the ancient DNA work) but the required complex juggling of lies and truth required to get past the demented gatekeepers of our society may not be his forte. It has been said that if it was discovered that someone in the business was secretly an android, David Reich would be the prime suspect. No Talleyrand he.<\/p>\n

He doesn\u2019t just slander, he lies. He says \u201cmost stereotypes will be disproved.\u201d Want to bet? Most stereotypes are true \u2013 true everywhere. In what country do the Chinese disproportionately fill up the special ed classes? If we we\u2019re talking cognition and personality, the behavioral geneticists keep finding that A. genetics matters, and B. The usual suspects, like family environment, don\u2019t matter much.<\/p>\n

There may be a few exceptions to \u201d what you see is what you get\u201d, and understanding them might be very valuable: if some pop appeared to have a lot on the ball ( genetically) but isn\u2019t doing well, there might be another cheap, simple solution, like iodine supplementation. And there will be differences that are fairly subtle and not much noticed, say in liver enzymes or the immune system, that might be highly relevant to disease prevention and treatment.<\/p>\n

Reich\u2019s position is that we don\u2019t know anything until someone (him !) has analyzed it with modern genomic techniques. That\u2019s ridiculous. Reich found that on average, given similar diets, northern Europeans are about a standard deviation taller than southern Europeans. But I already knew that, well before Reich was born. Seneca knew it: Tacitus knew it. There\u2019s a reason the Byzantines hired plenty of Scandihoovians (including 7-footer Harold Hardrada) into the Varangian Guard. Mark Twain knew that Ashkenazi Jews were smart: he didn\u2019t need IQ tests or GWAS for that.<\/p>\n

COMMENTS:<\/p>\n

* If you looked at the people of medieval Europe anyone could immediately see the differences between the gentry and the peasants. The son of the Lord of the Manor grew up eating meat and fresh vegetables. While the peasant\u2019s son ate gruel and had no toys in his crib. The noble was tall, healthy and smart. The peasant was short,sickly and stupid. Peasants were reviled by the people at court and they were right to do so. Better fed and nurtured people were indeed better people.<\/p>\n

* Steve Sailer: By the way, making the Olympics 100m dash men\u2019s finals is not solely a West African thing: a South African sprinter finished 5th in 2016 and back in the 1990s, Frankie Fredericks of Namibia in southwestern Africa won silver medals twice. Everybody who has made one of the eight finalist slots in the last nine Olympics has been, as far as I know, at least half-Sub-Saharan by ancestry<\/p>\n

It is true that East African highlander countries like Kenya and Ethiopia that produce a lot of longer distance medalists have not made the finals in the 100m (although Kenyans have medaled in distances as short as 400m).<\/p>\n

* SS: But who brings you up has a lot of effect on what religion you follow, what cuisine type you like, a lot of your cultural attitudes and customs, what kind of small businesses you might go into, what ethnicity you identify with…<\/p>\n

* SS: Lots of people care about traits other than IQ and personality. Who brings you up, for example, will have a big impact on your class-related behaviors. In Britain, for example, you are unlikely to grow up to speak with a Public School Accent unless your parents are the type who want to pay Public School (i.e., private schools like Eton) tuition.<\/p>\n

Similarly, who brings you up likely matters for which sports you pursue.<\/p>\n

* SS: My name is George Nathaniel Curzon,
\nI am a most superior person.
\nMy cheeks are pink, my hair is sleek,
\nI dine at Blenheim twice a week.<\/p>\n

I just learned that these are a genre: the Balliol Rhyme:<\/p>\n

https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Balliol_rhyme<\/p>\n

* What\u2019s remarkable about Samoans is not that many are fat \u2014 lots of peoples are pretty fat these days \u2014 but how many are extremely strong, NFL strong. Samoans are vastly over-represented in both pro American football and in pro rugby.<\/p>\n

* SS: Germans got really fat from about 1955-1965 or so. It was likely a reaction to the lean years after the war. But after awhile they stopped eating so much more than other Europeans.<\/p>\n

* Jayman: In the case of the effects of family environment, the matter is not \u201cabsence of evidence.\u201d; there is evidence of absence. Namely, the shared environment component of behavioral genetic studies routinely comes out to insignificant to plain old zero when we look at adults. People who grew up together are no more similar than people who grew up apart, when you take genetics into account.<\/p>\n

* I think Greg is mostly talking about heritability estimates from twin studies. A very common finding from these is that the component of variation due to family environment is negligible. (Jayman explicitly mentions this.)<\/p>\n

In other words, if you ask \u201cwhy are people so different with respect to trait X?\u201d, the answer usually is not \u201cbecause they were raised in different households.\u201d Usually it\u2019s \u201cbecause they have different genes, plus some residual random effects that we don\u2019t understand.\u201d<\/p>\n

Does this mean you can\u2019t have an effect on your child? No. I could depress my kid\u2019s IQ long term, no problem (lead flakes for breakfast). So why doesn\u2019t this contribute to phenotypic variance in IQ in the twin studies? Because lead poisoning is very rare in the US, so it contributes virtually nothing to the differences observed between people. (Raising IQ is a lot harder. I don\u2019t know of any intervention that would do it, long term.)<\/p>\n

Nor do these results prove that some new method doesn\u2019t have an effect. If there is some new parenting or teaching method out there that does in fact boost IQ or conscientiousness, but it\u2019s very rare, then it will again contribute approximately 0 to the shared environmental variance. That\u2019s why you need to test particular treatments with randomized studies. (My impression is that nothing has really stuck.)<\/p>\n

Question: do adoptees to rich families do better than adoptees to poor families? I\u2019ve seen studies that go both ways. <\/p>\n

* Old joke: An economist, a physicist, and a mathematician are taking a train to Scotland. As they cross the border, they see a black cow. \u201cLook, \u201d says the economist, \u201cthe cows in Scotland are black.\u201d \u201cHow imprecise,\u201d says the physicist. \u201cAll that we can really say is that there is one black cow in Scotland.\u201d \u201cActually,\u201d says the mathematician, \u201call that we can really say is that there is one cow in Scotland, and one side of it is black.\u201d<\/p>\n

* Tom Wolfe writes somewhere, it\u2019s risky to be ahead of one\u2019s time, even if by just 10 minutes.<\/p>\n

* Flynn effect addresses phenotype, not genotype. The genetic raw materials available are getting worse, but we\u2019re helped by the fact that most people e.g. no longer are iodide deficient or starve during critical periods of brain development. Environmental factors mask the dysgenic trend.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

I don’t remember seeing many aborigines with hobbies. <\/p>\n

Greg Cochran writes<\/a>: <\/p>\n

Graur says \u201cFor selection to operate and counteract the effects of random genetic drift, the effective population size should be large.\u201d Well, it would be nice if the effective population size were large, but that is by no means necessary. German Shepherds were created in the 1890s, by interbreeding several breeds of dogs ( and wolves !), followed by selection for desired traits. That didn\u2019t require tens or hundreds of thousands of dogs. Thoroughbreds are the fastest horses in existence: their effective population size is around 100. Dachshunds are smaller than they were in the 1970s \u2013 but then everybody knows they\u2019re contrary enough to violate the laws of genetics. Born that way, probably.<\/p>\n

I could go on \u2013 and on, and on. Every example we have of selection on domesticates is a counterexample to what Grauer is saying here. No farmer he. Does he think that some ancient geneticist corralled a million aurochsen in order to breed the domesticated cow?<\/p>\n

…Graur is making a very basic mistake: he is perfectly happy making an argument to which there are many counterexamples. They don\u2019t bother him. Even one counterexample should bother you. As I said, every domesticate is a counterexample to what he\u2019s saying. We know of many genetically caused differences between human populations, such as height, skin color, disease resistance, ability to efficiently utilize certain foods, tolerate high altitude, low temperatures, high levels of arsenic, etc etc. By \u2018we\u2019 I mean anyone who can read. Some of those genetic differences are caused by new forms of one or a few genes (like sickle-cell), others by small shifts in the frequency of many alleles that influence the trait.<\/p>\n

* Smarter men father about the same, smart women less. The net trend is negative: that\u2019s been known for maybe 60 years. Suspected for at least 90.<\/p>\n

* I\u2019ve been reading a tome in which the author says that many of the groups we think of as races are fairly recent formations (a few thousand years ago). Europeans are a mix of three groups ( hunter-gatherers, Anatolian early farmers, and Indo-Europeans off the steppe) that were originally about as genetically distant from each other as Germans and Chinese today. He seems to think that somehow invalidates thinking of Europeans today as a race. Or maybe he\u2019s just blowing smoke. Anyhow, it doesn\u2019t matter at all. Europeans would be what they are, act as they do, be as different and as similar to each other as they are, if they\u2019d been manufactured ( to the right spec) in a test tube 6022 years ago. The same is true for everyone else: Amerindians are mostly a mix of Sibermen and Chinesians (quite a long time ago), but although that is interesting, it hardly means that \u201cAmerindian\u201d isn\u2019t a real category.<\/p>\n

* Richard Lynn has an article out claiming that men have a 0.5 standard deviation edge in general knowledge. That fits with what I\u2019ve seen, for example in terms of basic science knowledge. Or back in my College Bowl salad days: I ran into many teams, and very few of the top scorers were women. By \u2018very few\u201d I mean 1.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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