{"id":119003,"date":"2017-11-27T08:39:01","date_gmt":"2017-11-27T16:39:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=119003"},"modified":"2017-11-27T09:12:50","modified_gmt":"2017-11-27T17:12:50","slug":"nazi-drummers-ii","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/lukeford.net\/blog\/?p=119003","title":{"rendered":"Nazi Drummers II"},"content":{"rendered":"

Comments at Steve Sailer<\/a>:<\/p>\n

* It\u2019s interesting that Eric Garner lost his martyrdom in favor of Heather Heyer. They both had a kind of static health where they could roll out of bed in the morning but any additional stress was enough to put them over the limit into cardiac arrest. The NYT should send their most extremely obese reporter to Hovater\u2019s house and arrange some loud\/stressful noises, then they could potentially pin a murderer label on him as well when the inevitable happens.<\/p>\n

* This third one (in a series?) is called extending the click bait. This article has 782 comments so you can see it has Times readers in a self righteous tizzy. Imagine you are a NY Times reader relaxing on a nice sunny Sunday, when Tony Hovater comes along to trigger you.<\/p>\n

* Alternative NYT: We denounced Mr. Hovater as reprehensible using all the ugly names we could muster and readers still thought we \u201cnormalized\u201d him. Having already taken outrage to 11, we couldn\u2019t find 12 on the scale. Groveling apology to follow\u2026<\/p>\n

* Heather Heyer died of a heart attack, brought on because she was an very obese chain smoker. I never came across a video showing her actually getting hit (maybe the car hit her on the leg). Had she been a normal sized person who didn\u2019t smoke she would have just been another witness to the whole mess.<\/p>\n

* …from the founding of this nation until 1965 or so, \u201cnormal ass white people\u201d pretty much universally believed the following:<\/p>\n

1. America is a white nation built by and for white people
\n2. Homosexuals are mentally ill
\n3. Transgenders are even more mentally ill
\n4. The role of woman is to \u201cstand by her man\u201d and raise his children
\n5. Homosexuals, transgenders, and women don\u2019t belong in the military
\n6. Communism is bad
\n7. If a white man got his ass out of bed in the morning and put in an honest day\u2019s work, he could not only support his family, but get ahead in life.<\/p>\n

Today, if you believe #1-6 you are seen literally as a \u201cNazi\u201d (and #7 is no longer true). Today you are seen as a Nazi because the culture has become inverted 180 degrees; women, gays, blacks, illegals and transgenders are holy and pure, and the white man is a satanic demon.<\/p>\n

So whether or not the white man is an actual Nazi or not he might as well be one, because 1) the ruling caste is going to call him one anyway, and 2) the \u201cNazis\u201d in Germany were a working class movement (which, admittedly, got out of hand due to the fanatical leadership) but in fact they pretty much agreed with \u201call of the above,\u201d as did normal Americans for the first 180-190 years of our existence.<\/p>\n

* Mike Enoch writes:<\/p>\n

I\u2019m thinking that Richard Fausset figured his angle was \u201cLook, this guy is totally normal, but also a Nazi. See, anyone can be a Nazi so watch out for Nazis everywhere.\u201d But he totally f***ed up from the perspective of his bosses. The blue checks are going insane over the piece. Which gives away that they will not stand for any journalism that is not purely agenda driven.<\/p>\n

In the course of writing, Richard Fausset probably grew to actually like Tony and on some level his conscience kicked in and he couldn\u2019t just smear him. Huge mistake for his career. Look at the reactions of agenda setting Jews like Ezra Klein.<\/p>\n

Richard Fausset did it wrong. He was supposed to bring back a hit piece or some useful information, preferably both. He did neither. Instead he gave US a propaganda win.<\/p>\n

Funny thing is, I spoke to Tony and it turns out that he actually DOES have seasonal allergies and occasionally takes an antihistamine. And Richard Fausset totally failed to even mention this in his article. What the hell was he thinking?<\/p>\n

A certain Mr Greenblatt, who it seems this very year has risen from mere second-tier government-apparatus-hanger-on in some obscure ideological-enforcement department of USGov, to Chief Suppressor of Anti-Semitism for the United States (i.e., new Head of the ADL; this may as well be a government position), writes:<\/p>\n

“It\u2019s critical for the press, when covering professional hatemongers, to avoid treating the abnormal as normal or to humanize the inhumane. By that basic measure, I\u2019d score this @NYTimes piece: #Nazis- 1, @Public- 0.”<\/p>\n

More importantly, shall we treat Greenblatt as \u2018abnormal\u2019? Is ethnic activism and likely allegiance to a foreign state \u2018normal\u2019 or \u2018abnormal\u2019?<\/p>\n

* \u201cNazi\u201d is and always has been an abuse word. It was invented as an abuse word. The Germans never called themselves Nazis. Can you imagine having a serious discussion about the Vietnam War while referring to Vietnamese as \u201cGooks\u201d? The reason people such as the New York Times use the word Nazi is to demonize the person they are targeting with that label. And it works. Hence the liberal hysteria about the alt-right instead of serious analysis.<\/p>\n

* Questions Worth Asking:<\/p>\n

(1) Is Richard Fausset\u2019s career over?<\/p>\n

(2) If so, will he salvage his career by announcing a dramatic discovery of Jewish ancestry, miracle Holocaust Survival (making Fausset a bonafide Third-Generation Holocaust Survivor), and perform a formal conversion to Judaism?<\/p>\n

* Ultimately, the New York Times\u2019 and Richard Fausset\u2019s cardinal sin was to presume that anyone could ever understand Mr. Hovater, or anyone like him, or that there might be reasons why people like him exist. That\u2019s truly unacceptable. I\u2019ve heard numerous Hannah Arendt (Eichmann trial, \u201cbanality of evil\u201d) references this weekend over this piece, in claims that it\u2019s nothing new. Ultimately, we\u2019re not meant to seek any deeper meaning for any of this. \u201cWhite supremacists are normal ass white people and it\u2019s been that way in America since 1776.\u201d And we must never, ever, ever think for a moment that people like Mr. Hovater have reasons for thinking the way that they do, much less potentially legitimate grievances. No, it\u2019s evil, and banal, and just too much to think about, so why are you talking about it still?<\/p>\n

* Over the past weekend, Enoch posted some audio to his site from a couple of journalists who were supposed to write pieces on him. He seems to be getting sort of friendly with one of them, because they keep calling each other after the story went to press, and the journalist keeps laughing at his jokes, and even admitting some things about the journalism business you wouldn\u2019t really expect him to admit.<\/p>\n

* Finally, hopefully more Whites will \u2018put 2 and 2 together\u2019 and realize things will be much worse when Whites are a minority in America \u2014 the \u20192 and 2\u2032 being 1) stubborn discrepancies in economic well-being across racial\/ethnic lines in even the \u2018most diverse\u2019 locales\u2019, which due to HBD are irremediable without extensive government intervention (taxation, wealth redistribution\/transfers), and will always be blamed on Whites (racism, including \u2018institutional racism\u2019, \u2018white privilege\u2019 etc), and 2) the implacable hatred and hysterical condemnation of any form of white identity, as evidenced by the response to this article.<\/p>\n

MORE COMMENTS<\/a>:<\/p>\n

* The dude says he loves Seinfeld. (I love Seinfeld. I\u2019m pretty sure I\u2019ve seen every episode at least twice.) How does a \u201cNazi\u201d love Seinfeld? On any reasonable use of the term \u201cNazi\u201d, shouldn\u2019t a \u201cNazi\u201d hate Seinfeld and demand that he be executed? Doesn\u2019t any insinuation that anyone is a \u201cNazi\u201d convey the insinuation that the \u201cNazi\u201d thinks that all \u201cJews\u201d should be immediately executed? Of course it does. That is why the term \u201cNazi\u201d carries such power. But all of this is false.<\/p>\n

* Because modern day white nationalism and neo-Nazism is a mass of ridiculous and stupid contradictions. Whether it\u2019s people of full or partial Slavic ancestry admiring Hitler, the spectacle of stupid anti-Semites worshiping philo-Semitic Confederate aristocrats, the schizophrenia about whether Christianity is the one true religion or a distraction for pathetic cucks, the most prominent public face at the moment being someone who is obviously a closeted or not-so-closeted homosexual, or the fact that the Aryan Brotherhood is led by a guy named Silverstein, a Nazi liking Seinfeld is the least of their problems.<\/p>\n

* Steve Sailer: The drummer is highly articulate and has lots of opinions on what motivates him, so it\u2019s not that impossible a reportorial task to, you know, look up the subject\u2019s lengthy essays on the Internet.<\/p>\n

The punk rock movement was roughly half-Jewish. Of the three punk bands I mentioned that played around with Nazi imagery, the Ramones were half Jewish (Joey the singer and Tommy the first drummer\/manager), the Sex Pistol\u2019s manager\/idea man Malcolm McClaren was half Jewish, and Mick Jones, founder of the Clash was, I believe, half-Jewish (Joe Strummer was something like 1\/8th Jewish, and more Armenian).<\/p>\n

So, it was all kind of an inside joke. And all three bands knocked off with the Nazi stuff within about a year. I vaguely recall that perhaps Strummer and Bernard Rhodes, the Jewish manager of the Clash, took a stand against it and maybe that shamed the others into cutting it out?<\/p>\n

Left wing militarism became more of a thing in the late 1970s as Strummer\u2019s influence grew. (By the way, Strummer was not a nice guy. Nothing to do with politics \u2026)<\/p>\n

Obama\u2019s Indonesian step-uncles and aunts tended to believe little Barry Soetoro might be Indonesian because as they moved about the various island due to their dad\u2019s job as a petroleum engineer, their mom tended to give birth to children who looked like the respective islanders, and one island near New Guinea everybody was kind of African-looking.<\/p>\n

Nobody in the family seemed to want to advance the alternative theory.<\/p>\n

* Before punk rock, The Blue Oyster Cult liked to pretend to be Nazis, even though singer Eric Bloom was Jewish, and so were producers Sandy Pearlman and Murray Krugman. Their hooked-cross symbol was vaguely suggestive of a swastika.<\/p>\n

* The NYT writer was obviously rattled by the fact that his subject was informed, hyper-verbal, analytical, and looked like a hipster. In short, the self-image of the average young Times writer (and reader). \u201cOne of us\u201d if you will. You can almost see him thinking to himself \u201cwhat the heck is going on here. This cat should be a Bernie Bro.\u201d<\/p>\n

* There\u2019s even a Canadian grindcore band called Fuck the Facts. Probably the best name for a left-leaning rock band I\u2019ve ever heard.<\/p>\n

* Periodically, bands adopt Nazi imagery for the same reason some adopt the Confederate flag as a mascot. It makes them look tough and pisses people off. It doesn\u2019t mean they want to kill Jews or own slaves.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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